Game of Thrones [SPOILERS]

[Merusk]

They never introduced the singer in the Aeyrie, so I was curious as to how they were going to deal with Lyssa being murdered (In the books Baelish framed him and manipulated Sansa into going along)

Quite a change here, yes.

[Setanta]

The Martells could be a really interesting story if told right - I don't know whether they will match the awesomeness of Oberon though - I can see that if done well (by the TV team- not GRRM because he was losing the plot literally with Dorne) it will really add to the story.

I hope they get Dany out of Mereen - because I'm not convinced Martin knows how to.

[jgsugden]

I'm really curious where they're going with Arya.  Given the state that things are in elsewhere in the world, it seems like her storyline should already be much, much farther along. 

[Ceryse]

Really enjoyed the episode; the laugh was the best part, however. Fight was pretty good, and Oberon's stupidity was believable/human.

[Speedy Cerviche]

The Martells could be a really interesting story if told right - I don't know whether they will match the awesomeness of Oberon though - I can see that if done well (by the TV team- not GRRM because he was losing the plot literally with Dorne) it will really add to the story.

I hope they get Dany out of Mereen - because I'm not convinced Martin knows how to.

Dorne speculation, minor spoiler

Iron Island speculation, timeline spoiler
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Arya destination

[Speedy Cerviche]

Really enjoyed the episode; the laugh was the best part, however. Fight was pretty good, and Oberon's stupidity was believable/human.

Tywin seized the moment and could have proclaimed the judgement inconclusive since both were down (although Clegane seems to be still alive) maybe saving his son. Instead he jumped up and proclaimed him guilty, and who is really going to argue with him? Shows his true colours to Tyrion that he really does just want him dead.

[Merusk]

Arya:

Dorne:

Iron Islands:

Tywin seized the moment and could have proclaimed the judgement inconclusive since both were down (although Clegane seems to be still alive) maybe saving his son. Instead he jumped up and proclaimed him guilty, and who is really going to argue with him? Shows his true colours to Tyrion that he really does just want him dead.

Clegane was still breathing and could obviously continue to fight since he killed Oberyn, he was just badly wounded. Oberyn can't continue to fight, so even if the Mountain died later the contest was decided.

Tyrion hasn't ever had doubts his father wanted him dead from what I can tell.

[schild]

I'm just gonna start skipping to scenes with Tyrion and start watching Game of Tyrion because this show fucking sucks otherwise.

[eldaec]

If you're tired of the Hound swearing at people or of Arya Stark murdering them, you're tired of life.

[schild]

That Arya and the Hound and their glacial progression through their obvious fucking storyline is a "good" part of the show is indicative of how shitty the rest of the show is. Arya is entertaining. The Hound is aight. Neither even measures on the same scale as anything with Dinklage.

[Phildo]

Scale.  Dinklage.  I like what you did there.

[Tannhauser]

I can name a lot more arcs that I like than I don't.  Like 'em all except
1. Reek.  Jesus, why did you fuck up Theon GRRM? 
2. Dany hanging out in Mereen.  The only upside is Missandei's GLORIOUS body.
3. Ser Friendzone.  Heck anything in Essos east of Bravos.
4. The Wall. John Snow and co just don't do anything for me.  I like Sam but he sent his woman to a whorehouse so she wouldn't be raped.  Good job there Sam Tarly.

[K9]

I can name a lot more arcs that I like than I don't.  Like 'em all except
1. Reek.  Jesus, why did you fuck up Theon GRRM? 
2. Dany hanging out in Mereen.  The only upside is Missandei's GLORIOUS body.
3. Ser Friendzone.  Heck anything in Essos east of Bravos.
4. The Wall. John Snow and co just don't do anything for me.  I like Sam but he sent his woman to a whorehouse so she wouldn't be raped.  Good job there Sam Tarly.

I don't know if you've read the books, but in comparison the showmakers have managed to make these storylines gripping.

[angry.bob]

They're almost like two different species.

[Tannhauser]

Dude, do you even lift?

[Thrawn]

They're almost like two different species.

[Setanta]

Agreed. The books swap him for a gout ridden leader of the Martell family. To hell with that shit. The Viper was a strong presence in the series, something we haven't seen in a long time.

John - tedious and brooding - zzzzz
Tyrion - awesome character but not much happening other than being a fall guy
Tywin - no longer the strong character he once was
Jamie - bereft of Brienne his character is ok, but not as good as it was earlier
Varys - who?
Littlefinger - I liked the bit where he made her fly - but zzz
Sansa - yup - just came into her own
Arya/Hound - comedy value and well developed
Cersei - zzz
Dany/Friendzone et al - zzz

This is in comparison to who they were in S1/S2 - Oberon was a breath of fresh air

I'm not blaming the writers or the actors, the wordiness of the novels is even more tedious to get through and they have done a good job of entertaining us

I miss Joffrey - at least he was going to always fuck shit up.

[Cyrrex]

Sorry to see you go, Oberon.  That was a great character and a great piece of acting.  Wait a minute...tape that thing back together!  Zombie Oberon!

I will go on record to say that, despite knowing what was coming, I felt a bit ill.  I also couldn't get it out of my head, replaying it over an over.  Fantastic and disgusting, all wrapped into one.  And I loved the fight itself, too.

Arya laughing was great.

Tyrion's whole speech about the moron, while not terribly relevant, was great.

I both like and dislike the Reek storyline, but I really love the guy playing Ramsay.  If there was an Oscar for Most Creepy Motherfucker in a Hit Series, he'd win for sure.

Like what they did with Sansa.  I am wondering if Ironwood blew a vein somewhere there towards the end, with the knowing looks and the slow walk down the stairs.  He hasn't commented.  Maybe he hasn't seen it yet.

[HaemishM]

Squick... indeed. Very well done translation of that scene and fuck am I going to miss that character as much as I missed him in the books. That scene made me feel ill both times I watched it.

Missandei... YUM. I like the addition of character with the interaction between her and Grey Worm.

Ser Friendzone got the ultimate cockblock and I think Dany played that scene really well. Despite her storyline being fucking boring as shit, the actress is doing well with what little she gets.

Sansa... DOUBLE YUM. Not even remotely sure where they are going with her and Baelish since that's a significant departure from the books, but if she keeps wearing dresses like that, I do not fucking care where it goes, I will watch. At least she's 18 now, so I only feel SLIGHTLY creepy and perverse for saying that. Fuck. She was born after I started designing web sites. I... AM... OLD. Fuck you, Time.

[angry.bob]

Sith Apprentice Sansa is a big improvement in her character. Darth Cleavagus for the Queen at the end of the story. Surely the meek tween from the first episode will inherit the earth.

[Riggswolfe]

Sansa... DOUBLE YUM. Not even remotely sure where they are going with her and Baelish since that's a significant departure from the books, but if she keeps wearing dresses like that, I do not fucking care where it goes, I will watch. At least she's 18 now, so I only feel SLIGHTLY creepy and perverse for saying that. Fuck. She was born after I started designing web sites. I... AM... OLD. Fuck you, Time.

It is but it is a great departure. It feels like the first time Sansa isn't passive in her own destiny. Since GRRM is involved with the show I have hopes it is based on foreknowledge he has given them.

[Samwise]

I have compiled a helpful guide to fictional characters whose name start with "Ober".

[Teleku]

You could always tell Sansa was destined to be come a master of court intrigue.  Martin just fucked it up with how he made things go slow and meandering in the last two books.

[Samwise]

Sansa... DOUBLE YUM. Not even remotely sure where they are going with her and Baelish since that's a significant departure from the books, but if she keeps wearing dresses like that, I do not fucking care where it goes, I will watch. At least she's 18 now, so I only feel SLIGHTLY creepy and perverse for saying that. Fuck. She was born after I started designing web sites. I... AM... OLD. Fuck you, Time.

It is but it is a great departure. It feels like the first time Sansa isn't passive in her own destiny. Since GRRM is involved with the show I have hopes it is based on foreknowledge he has given them.

While trying to avoid too much book discussion, I'll say I've always just assumed that Sansa was going to eventually become a master manipulator (we've seen shades of it early on -- Ned wouldn't have gone to King's Landing if Sansa hadn't played him like a fiddle) and that the Vale would be where she started to come into her own.  So I was excited to see visible signs of that here.

And yeah, Evil Sansa is fucking hot.  I've always been more of a Margaery fan prior to this, but it turns out I'm just a sucker for manipulative psychos who show a lot of boob.  Explains much.

[Pennilenko]

...but it turns out I'm just a sucker for manipulative psychos who show a lot of boob...

Aren't we all?

[schild]

If there was an Oscar for Most Creepy Motherfucker in a Hit Series, he'd win for sure.

If we ignore Mason Verger existing, I'd agree.

[murdoc]

[Ironwood]

 I am wondering if Ironwood blew a vein somewhere there towards the end, with the knowing looks and the slow walk down the stairs.  He hasn't commented.  Maybe he hasn't seen it yet.

No, I've seen it.  We're only about 24 hours behind you.

[HaemishM]

He's obviously still recovering. 

[Chimpy]

I have compiled a helpful guide to fictional characters whose name start with "Ober".

 

[Tannhauser]

Like Tyrion said, if you've come to King's Landing for justice you've come to the wrong place. 

[schild]

Tyrion ain't dying. There, I ruined it.

[angry.bob]

Yeah, he isn't going to die. There are enough people who would actually try to kill GRRM that one of them would succeed, and he knows it would happen. Also, Tyrion is GRRM's self insert into the story.

Tyrion is going to end up King with Mara Jade Sansa as queen.

[Merusk]

Like Tyrion said, if you've come to King's Landing for justice you've come to the wrong place. 

[schild]

Yeah, he isn't going to die. There are enough people who would actually try to kill GRRM that one of them would succeed, and he knows it would happen. Also, Tyrion is GRRM's self insert into the story.

Tyrion is going to end up King with Mara Jade Sansa as queen.

If the TV show decides not to be a shitshow, yes. If the TV show decides to continue following the books: No.

Spoiler: I read all the spoilers about the books to see how fucking glacial and poorly written they were. Turns out the series has about 4000 unnecessary pages.