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Reply #420 on: January 27, 2012, 09:25:18 PM

I have shield prob on a 1 min countdown. I have evasion on a 45 second cooldown.

I have a skill that gives me mana every tick if I use a charge, I have a skill that gives me mana every two minutes, I have a skill that resets that skill every 20 minutes.

I have a stun, I have an interupt, and I have a stun on a backstab.

You know what would be nice. If they combined some of these abilities and just made the timer shorter.

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Reply #421 on: January 27, 2012, 09:44:24 PM

What's the Sith ability that makes you writhe on the ground like you've got bugs crawling in your mouth?

Whatever it is, it annoys the hell out of me that my cc-cancelling ability doesn't work on it.

That sounds like one of the upgrades to overload. The knock back has an added cc effect but it doesn't always go off.

Ok, I figured out what's doing this and it's not Overload.  It's the Warrior Intimidating Roar, which is a 'fear' (a sleep effect, really).  It's a baseline Warrior ability so both Juggernauts and Marauders will have it.  The CC-cancelling ability will work on it, though.  The Overload upgrade is a root and it looks like there's electricity pinning your feet to the ground or something.

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Reply #422 on: January 27, 2012, 10:32:31 PM

I just don't understand how an invisible wall is *less* immersion breaking.
I was commenting about this in-game the other day.  Both the exhaustion zone and the invisible wall are totally immersion-breaking to me.  The exhaustion zone is just way more sadistic, because if I happen to be looking away for a moment while autorunning, or moving at an angle and not sure which way to get back out, or if I lag and don't get the exhaustion zone warning soon enough, it's got a good chance of just killing me outright.  The methods Mattemeo suggested all seem less immersion-breaking than either a zone of very fast death or an invisible wall.  And if zone of very fast death and invisible wall are my only choices, I'll take invisible wall, because at least it doesn't kill me if I looked away from the monitor or alt-tabbed to write a forum post.  It's not even like invisible walls don't exist in the game either, I've run into them in several places blocking me from taking a weird route over some mountains or something of that nature.

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Reply #423 on: January 27, 2012, 11:56:09 PM

I fucking hate that they always do their downtime at midnight PST.

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Reply #424 on: January 28, 2012, 12:02:01 AM

I fucking hate that they always do their downtime at midnight PST.

It's Saturday morning for us euros for this particular unnanounced patch.

And, what exactly is the point of having blogs, forums, a twitter feed and a system status alert feed if they use none of them to warn of unscheduled downtimes?

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Reply #425 on: January 28, 2012, 12:04:12 AM

I fucking hate that they always do their downtime at midnight PST.

It's Saturday morning for us euros for this particular unnanounced patch.

And, what exactly is the point of having blogs, forums, a twitter feed and a system status alert feed if they use none of them to warn of unscheduled downtimes?

You mean the one on the forums posted like 9 hours ago?
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Reply #426 on: January 28, 2012, 12:20:18 AM

Where?

I see a post about patch & maintenance on the 31st, which is Tuesday, but nothing about today.

Edit: Ah ok, I see it, it's in the text of the post which only has "January 31st" in the title in huge letters.

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Reply #427 on: January 28, 2012, 03:14:43 AM

I fucking hate that they always do their downtime at midnight PST.

It's Saturday morning for us euros for this particular unnanounced patch.

And, what exactly is the point of having blogs, forums, a twitter feed and a system status alert feed if they use none of them to warn of unscheduled downtimes?

You mean the one on the forums posted like 9 hours ago?
The forums that go down and cannot be read during patching, you mean?  awesome, for real

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Reply #428 on: January 28, 2012, 04:06:21 AM

Also, they did tweet it, I just didn't see it because when I went to check it was pushed off the bottom of the screen by 8 hours of tweets about other stuff. So I rescind 50% of my little peeve!

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Reply #429 on: January 28, 2012, 04:09:40 AM

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Reply #430 on: January 28, 2012, 04:15:17 AM

I know. I've already hoovered the house, washed the dishes, put some laundry on and filed my tax return for 2010-2011.

Makes me wonder how productive a human being I could be if I actually quit MMOs altogether....  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #431 on: January 28, 2012, 06:26:11 AM

I know. I've already hoovered the house, washed the dishes, put some laundry on and filed my tax return for 2010-2011.

Makes me wonder how productive a human being I could be if I actually quit MMOs altogether....  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #432 on: January 29, 2012, 03:02:18 PM

It sort of creeps me out that all four (assuming Jaesa winds up your apprentice) male force users have the option to sexually harrass their padawan/apprentices as their romance option. It is icky.

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Reply #433 on: January 29, 2012, 04:26:11 PM

Questing in general is Vincent Price levels of spine tingling.

The map is just getting to be re-goddam-diculous.  Multiple pages and views that do not scale with each other.  It wouldn't be so bad if the quests weren't all over the place.  I'm making spirograph patterns just trying to figure out where the quest actually is.  Taxi points will indicate that a quest is at that location, but this isn't always the case, it's just the nearest taxi point to the quest on that page of the map.

Speaking of taxis:  routes.  Who thought it would be fun to have overlapping routes that don't connect to each other?  This exists in wow, I know, you have to find a connecting point.  But in SWTOR I'm talking about taxi routes that literally fly right by a landing point but do not connect to it.  The fuh.

When receiving a quest, there is no flytext or log text telling you the title of the quest.  It's useful info that you have to dig around for.  This is especially annoying when you have max number of quests in the log. 

Quests don't indicate completion in the log.  Where do I have to go next?  Look at the map.  WAIT DON'T

This has been said already, but I'm really tired of guessing which path to take in order to get to a quest at an unrevealed section of the map.  You can go really far out of your way on a path that seems to lead to your quest, only to find that it ends in a cul-de-sac....gotta completely retrace steps.

Finally, here we have a game that's on rails.  It's even more on rails than wow.  It's character-centric, and you have companions.  So why are there so many quests that require a group?  I'm finding that, at higher levels, these quests tend to sit in my log because the population thins out and finding a group is tricky.  Let me just access the content without having to spam general and then wait 45 minutes for the group to meet up and find where they're going.  Other games have great features of auto-grouping and event zones, do we really need to spell this out.
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Reply #434 on: January 29, 2012, 04:49:20 PM

It sort of creeps me out that all four (assuming Jaesa winds up your apprentice) male force users have the option to sexually harrass their padawan/apprentices as their romance option. It is icky.


Playing my JK, I've gone from not being sure I should boink Kira because she's my Padawan and, y'know, I'm responsible for her to not being sure I should boink Kira because ...

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Reply #435 on: January 29, 2012, 04:55:26 PM

It sort of creeps me out that all four (assuming Jaesa winds up your apprentice) male force users have the option to sexually harrass their padawan/apprentices as their romance option. It is icky.

I can see it as ok maybe with knight/Kira because with her background she appears very street-wise and independent, it feels more like a partnership between equals than master/apprentice pairing really. But can't quite imagine how the consular/Nadia romance goes, given how she comes across so... heartbreaking eager to please would be a way to describe her, i guess. Total abuse of trust. swamp poop
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Reply #436 on: January 29, 2012, 05:23:42 PM

Justify it this way: you spend a long-ass time wining and dining her (with gifts, pandering to her preferences in conversations) so it's the game version of "building a relationship."  And, by virtue of being unable to kick companions off your ship, (if they change the AI responses and) she refuses your advances, her job isn't affected (nor are her jedi powers etc), so it's NOT harrassment.
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Reply #437 on: January 29, 2012, 08:50:43 PM

Depends, if as a result of her turning you down, she starts getting passed over for the cool missions, and instead you only use her on Taris and for especially dull crafting missions, you could easily get space-sued for that.

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Reply #438 on: January 29, 2012, 09:02:12 PM

Justify it this way: you spend a long-ass time wining and dining her (with gifts, pandering to her preferences in conversations) so it's the game version of "building a relationship."  And, by virtue of being unable to kick companions off your ship, (if they change the AI responses and) she refuses your advances, her job isn't affected (nor are her jedi powers etc), so it's NOT harrassment.

In an entirely unrelated question - did you go to Sand for advice on what is / isn't harassment? Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #439 on: January 29, 2012, 09:35:10 PM

It sort of creeps me out that all four (assuming Jaesa winds up your apprentice) male force users have the option to sexually harrass their padawan/apprentices as their romance option. It is icky.

I can see it as ok maybe with knight/Kira because with her background she appears very street-wise and independent, it feels more like a partnership between equals than master/apprentice pairing really. But can't quite imagine how the consular/Nadia romance goes, given how she comes across so... heartbreaking eager to please would be a way to describe her, i guess. Total abuse of trust. swamp poop

And to be fair, for a while it's sort of unclear if Kira's your padawan. They tell you to take her with you, and they tell you to treat her as if she's your padawan and crap. Now, still, if that's how you're going to treat your padawans, that's still creepy, but it's still at least slightly murky instead of Nadia, where there is no doubt whatsoever she's YOUR padawan.

It's annoying, sort of, because I actually rather like Nadia, but I can't see how that romance can be anything but ick.

I also just find it weird that there's so many lady padawans and apprentices. It's like they couldn't think of any POSSIBLE way a woman would get involved with the Jedi storylines unless they were force users too. Same goes for the inquisitors, thinking about it, and the one OTHER way a woman gets involved with the sith warrior storyline is ... yeah. Let's just have one of those.

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Reply #440 on: January 30, 2012, 12:10:48 AM

Jesus christ just play dark side and all these moral ambiguities evaporate like tears on Tatooine.

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Reply #441 on: January 30, 2012, 06:40:57 AM

It sort of creeps me out that all four (assuming Jaesa winds up your apprentice) male force users have the option to sexually harrass their padawan/apprentices as their romance option. It is icky.
Seriously?  That makes it in, but gay relationships are too risque? angry

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Reply #442 on: January 30, 2012, 06:46:29 AM

It sort of creeps me out that all four (assuming Jaesa winds up your apprentice) male force users have the option to sexually harrass their padawan/apprentices as their romance option. It is icky.
Seriously?  That makes it in, but gay relationships are too risque? angry

I sooooo agree.

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Reply #443 on: January 30, 2012, 07:24:02 AM

New addition: I currently see no reason (beyond aesthetic pleasure) to play a pure dps class (i.e. sniper/gunslinger or marauder/sentinel).  They don't do any more dps than a more versitile class can in their dps spec.  In many cases, they do less.  WTF is up with that... pure dps classes do lower dps than hybrids.  Nice.

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Reply #444 on: January 30, 2012, 07:42:59 AM

New addition: I currently see no reason (beyond aesthetic pleasure) to play a pure dps class (i.e. sniper/gunslinger or marauder/sentinel).  They don't do any more dps than a more versitile class can in their dps spec.  In many cases, they do less.  WTF is up with that... pure dps classes do lower dps than hybrids.  Nice.

I'm waiting for that epiphany moment playing my Sentinel, where everything falls into place and I actually feel like I'm playing a badass, capable Jedi. Because as fun as it is to play, he is unquestionably my weakest character in any given combat situation. My Trooper Vanguard tank can eradicate groups of mobs around 4x faster. I've yet to face a boss alone with said Trooper (as he's part of a Gunslinger/Vanguard duo) but I suspect he'd have an easier time at that. I got my healer companion (Elarna Dorne) at L22, and things literally became laughably easy. My Sentinel still doesn't have any means of healing the regular unholy beatings he receives besides medpacks at 36. There is no balance. At all.

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Reply #445 on: January 30, 2012, 08:08:47 AM

Once you get the healer companion, it's pretty much game over for fighting stuff. That goes for almost all the classes. The only difference is WHEN you get it, which makes some classes ridiculously easy to level, while other classes can't hang. Jedi Knight gets the healer waaaaaaaaay too late imo.

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Reply #446 on: January 30, 2012, 08:15:30 AM

It sort of creeps me out that all four (assuming Jaesa winds up your apprentice) male force users have the option to sexually harrass their padawan/apprentices as their romance option. It is icky.


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Reply #447 on: January 30, 2012, 08:27:40 AM

The placement of companions really is strange. Gunslingers/JKs are basically fucked by it for no good reason.
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Reply #448 on: January 30, 2012, 08:40:31 AM

Gunslingers are by far the worst off and hardest to level.

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Reply #449 on: January 30, 2012, 08:40:39 AM

Yeah, I have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to hand out Guss last for smugglers. Either you're a scoundrel healer because that's how you've levelled and gotten groups and so on, and so he's pointless. Or you've desperately needed him for about 10-15 levels but have probably found ways to just suck it up and so he comes along pretty much as a way of rubbing salt in the wounds that he can heal.
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Reply #450 on: January 30, 2012, 09:26:55 AM

New addition: I currently see no reason (beyond aesthetic pleasure) to play a pure dps class (i.e. sniper/gunslinger or marauder/sentinel).  They don't do any more dps than a more versitile class can in their dps spec.  In many cases, they do less.  WTF is up with that... pure dps classes do lower dps than hybrids.  Nice.
The hybrid tax is fuckstupid, old, bad design. All DPS-specced classes (regardless of if they can respec tank/healer) should do comparable damage, period.

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Reply #451 on: January 30, 2012, 09:45:52 AM

That's a disappointment from the pre-release hype when DE was showing off Tatooine and the system in place was customization kits that changed the spec of your companion (healer kit/dps kit etc).

THAT would have been a great system, or even give you a minigame of leveling up their spec alongside yours.

Besides the critical gameplay impact of getting a healer, there's also the story impact. The initial companions are pretty obviously the best fleshed out; as a Shieldtech I had no desire to ever use anyone other than Mako and therefor never saw anyone else's story or got their one-liners in conversations.

Should probably have all your companions by 25.
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Reply #452 on: January 30, 2012, 09:50:15 AM

That's a disappointment from the pre-release hype when DE was showing off Tatooine and the system in place was customization kits that changed the spec of your companion (healer kit/dps kit etc).
Out of curiosity, did they ever say why they changed from that to what they launched with?
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Reply #453 on: January 30, 2012, 10:02:46 AM

That's a disappointment from the pre-release hype when DE was showing off Tatooine and the system in place was customization kits that changed the spec of your companion (healer kit/dps kit etc).
Out of curiosity, did they ever say why they changed from that to what they launched with?

Probably some rabble about only using one companion that could do it all rather than actually breaking into your other companion stock to develop story - which makes no sense what-so-ever given how things actually play out, but there ya go.

I would love to run around with a companion that is actually a better compliment to my character I am playing rather than someone I am forced to have. I also agree that you should have your full contingent by 25, or at least Act II. But this is what we have... till the miracle patch comes out and cures all our ills. why so serious?

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Reply #454 on: January 30, 2012, 10:24:18 AM

New addition: I currently see no reason (beyond aesthetic pleasure) to play a pure dps class (i.e. sniper/gunslinger or marauder/sentinel).  They don't do any more dps than a more versitile class can in their dps spec.  In many cases, they do less.  WTF is up with that... pure dps classes do lower dps than hybrids.  Nice.
The hybrid tax is fuckstupid, old, bad design. All DPS-specced classes (regardless of if they can respec tank/healer) should do comparable damage, period.

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