Little Peeves

[Rasix]

That logic works if you're not talking about SWTOR at all.

[Lantyssa]

I've always wondered the opposite; why there's so much violence in most games but almost no romance.

Computer RPGs are made by the technically inclined version of D&D fanboys.  <insert Penny Arcade D&D 5th edition comic here>

[murdoc]

It drives me crazy that my mats don't autostack when I move them to my vault.

[Rendakor]

It drives me crazy that my mats don't autostack when I move them to my vault.

This. Taking things out of the mailbox doesn't autostack them either.

[eldaec]

I ended up having to move to some OCD system where mats are stored in the vault on a grid by type (column) and grade (row) because otherwise it was becoming impossible to keep shit stacked.

[proudft]

Yep, me too.  Tier 1 materials go in the first gridded area, Tier 2 in the second, etc.

Oddly, stuff does stack in your inventory when you take it out of the bank, so it's sort of a mystery why the other way around doesn't work.

[MisterNoisy]

I also find it amusing that you can tell when someone is shift-clicking instead of shift-right-clicking to break up stacks.

1.[General] [DarthNader]: [Phobium][Phobium][Phobium][Phobium][Phobium][Phobium]

[01101010]

I also find it amusing that you can tell when someone is shift-clicking instead of shift-right-clicking to break up stacks.

1.[General] [DarthNader]: [Phobium][Phobium][Phobium][Phobium][Phobium][Phobium]

 

[Der Helm]

shift-right-clicking

 

[Rendakor]

One of the non-Huttball Warzones (the SOTA style one, no idea what it's called) has a map that obscures the top few buttons on my right hotbar. 

[ajax34i]

I don't get the romance option in a multiplayer game. Isn't that what the G.I.R.L.s in the cantina are for?

No, Numtini, the opposite is exactly what the romance options are for.  I grouped the other day with some moron who decided to hit on the female character in the group during the flashpoint, and (s?)he got pissed off pretty fast, everyone could tell but him.  Now if he'd had a Kira companion rather than the Qyzen for 40 levels, he could have stayed in his ship with her, and we would have had a better PUG without him.

[Minvaren]

I also find it amusing that you can tell when someone is shift-clicking instead of shift-right-clicking to break up stacks.

1.[General] [DarthNader]: [Phobium][Phobium][Phobium][Phobium][Phobium][Phobium]

Huh, I was shift-dragging with the same results, and wrote it off as a UI bug.  Go figure.   

[tmp]

I have literally never been able to understand the appeal of 'romance' options in video games. I find it utterly bizarre; let alone having marriage and such be an option.

It's precisely the same sort of appeal the idea of saving the universe, defeating powerful foes in general or whatever else the narrative of video game makes you do, has.

[Miasma]

The level 40+ space missions are too hard, I want something to be really easy and these no longer qualify.  I can still do them, but now I have to expend valuable effort.

[Ashamanchill]

This game has to have the worst UI responsiveness I have ever witnessed. It seems especially bad for defensive moves, wherein I there are time I will be jamming the button to perform my move and nothing will happen. It has gotten me killed several times, and it is really getting on my nerves.

[Soln]

G.C.D.

/thread

[Crumbs]

Disappearing credits happened to me this weekend.  60k.  Ticket still open  

It's not a lot of credits in the grand scheme of things, but the fact is that one minute I was running around the fleet with over 60k credits in my inventory, and then I logged over to another toon, back to the original, and the credits were gone.  450 or so creds left in my inventory.  From what I'm seeing in the forums, they are not returning credits or items lost from these bugs.  I can deal with all of the other peeves from this "new game," and lordy knows I'm not a developer, but aren't they supposed to know what you had and when you had it?  Seems like a game breaker to me.

edit: and just because it's 60k this time doesn't mean it won't be 60 million the next.

[Nebu]

I have a peeve, but it goes the other way.  What's the point of credits at level 50?  I have over 1 million credits and the only use I have for them is passing them to alts.  Money seems worthless.  I get all the gear I want from pvp/pve, I get consumables from crafting/commendations.  I guess it gives me cash to allow companions to do tasks, but even that's pointless after a while.  I haven't sent a companion on a mission in over a week.

[Fordel]

I have a peeve, but it goes the other way.  What's the point of credits at level 50?  I have over 1 million credits and the only use I have for them is passing them to alts.  Money seems worthless.  I get all the gear I want from pvp/pve, I get consumables from crafting/commendations.  I guess it gives me cash to allow companions to do tasks, but even that's pointless after a while.  I haven't sent a companion on a mission in over a week.

Vanity, just like in WoW.

Use your money pot to buy the giant car speeders and pick up the hot twi'lek ladies 

[Nebu]

Seriously, isn't it a sign of a poorly designed MMO economy if I already have more money than I can spend in the first month of gameplay?  Particularly since I didn't do anything intentional to make all of this cash?  I mean, I didn't even make an effort to get rich.  It just happened.

[tmp]

Seriously, isn't it a sign of a poorly designed MMO economy if I already have more money than I can spend in the first month of gameplay?

The "MMO economy" is a concept that's broken by default. Meaning no, it's a sign things are working out precisely as one would expect them to.

[Nebu]

Of course having unlimited influx of cash is broken, but they could add more cash sinks to limit the rate of growth. 

[tmp]

But for what purpose? Just so few people who cling to the delusion of "working MMO economy" can fool themselves a few weeks longer?

edit: as far as i can tell they've focused on controlling/limiting the acquisition rate through their token systems and such, i.e. just like the other MMOs. The "money" is only still there at all out of inertia (and to ease the trade between players) than actual need for it, imo.

[Wolf]

There's no equivalent to enchants in TOR right? And sockets are what actually gives an item its stats so it comes with them. No gems, no enchants means what most people spend a ton of their cash on in wow does not exist in this game.

[trias_e]

All you need to have a working economy is scarce, tradable items that people actually want.  Many MMORPGs I've played have had that.  WoW certainly did for the first 2 years after launch.  There's nothing inherent about an MMORPG economy that forces it to have no items worth selling/buying, it's a design decision.  SWTOR is particularly bad in this respect.

[tmp]

All you need to have a working economy is scarce, tradable items that people actually want.  Many MMORPGs I've played have had that.  WoW certainly did for the first 2 years after launch.  There's nothing inherent about an MMORPG economy that forces it to have no items worth selling/buying, it's a design decision.

What exactly definition of "working" are we talking about here?

[Nebu]

Scarce goods would be nice.  The ability to buy top tier gear would be attractive though I imagine that money has become devalued to discourage gold spammers/farmers. 

[Rendakor]

Nebu, are you rich from just leveling up, or did you use Slicing before it got nerfed? I'm just asking because money's been pretty scarce for me while leveling up and trying to keep my crafting skills on par with my level.

[Nebu]

Nebu, are you rich from just leveling up, or did you use Slicing before it got nerfed? I'm just asking because money's been pretty scarce for me while leveling up and trying to keep my crafting skills on par with my level.

I'm rich from running hard modes, doing pvp, and completing dailies at level 50.  You can make like 100k a day just running a few Ilum dailies and they provide commendations for enhancements to boot. 

My skill is Armstech.  What a monumental waste.  I'm going to switch to biochem as it seems to be the only crafting worthwhile at endgame.

[Rendakor]

Ahh ok, that makes sense. I forgot you've been 50 for a while.

[Ingmar]

I have a peeve, but it goes the other way.  What's the point of credits at level 50?  I have over 1 million credits and the only use I have for them is passing them to alts.  Money seems worthless.  I get all the gear I want from pvp/pve, I get consumables from crafting/commendations.  I guess it gives me cash to allow companions to do tasks, but even that's pointless after a while.  I haven't sent a companion on a mission in over a week.

I'm guessing you're not doing much crafting? The top level flux is a pretty big cash sink if you're trying to RE your way to purple stuff. Almost 40k a stack and you'll need a LOT of stacks if you're trying to purple out, say, every max level cybertech recipe.

[Nebu]

I'm guessing you're not doing much crafting? The top level flux is a pretty big cash sink if you're trying to RE your way to purple stuff. Almost 40k a stack and you'll need a LOT of stacks if you're trying to purple out, say, every max level cybertech recipe.

I'm armstech (read: worthless) and already have purple barrel recipes.  There's no point in making the top weapons as drops/commendation stuff is better.  I am considering starting crafting over and going Biochem though.  I hear that I should be able to max that out for 500k or so, which is less than half of my cash on hand.  I can make that much cash in about 5 days without much of an effort. 

[Ingmar]

Well there are only what, 4 different barrel types at cap? I can see that being relatively cheap yeah.

My problem is I just kind of hate dailies, and the ones here are way too spread out for my taste.

[01101010]

I have a peeve, but it goes the other way.  What's the point of credits at level 50?  I have over 1 million credits and the only use I have for them is passing them to alts.  Money seems worthless.  I get all the gear I want from pvp/pve, I get consumables from crafting/commendations.  I guess it gives me cash to allow companions to do tasks, but even that's pointless after a while.  I haven't sent a companion on a mission in over a week.

I'm guessing you're not doing much crafting? The top level flux is a pretty big cash sink if you're trying to RE your way to purple stuff. Almost 40k a stack and you'll need a LOT of stacks if you're trying to purple out, say, every max level cybertech recipe.

This is true. I concentrate on needs first, but even then, there is quite an expense to getting purple 22 grade mods. REing a shit load of greens then turning around to RE blues...which could give you a purple on the first RE or the 50th. Yeah... I am broke as hell after all the lvl 50 skills and speeder trainings and getting all the trainer schemes for cybertech. Then again, I can go out in corellia for a few hours and come back with more than 150k. *shrug* Maybe this is the end game time sink I was looking for.  

Now my Gunslinger is an armstech as well and other than barrels and vibrators/techblades, there is not much to even buy from the trainer. I am swimming in credits so far..

[Nebu]

Now my Gunslinger is an armstech as well and other than barrels and vibrators/techblades, there is not much to even buy from the trainer. I am swimming in credits so far..

I love it when someone "gets me".