Blizzards New MMO

[chargerrich]

So with the upcoming release of both D3 and SC2 we can probably safely conclude that these IP's will not be used for the new MMO. With that said, I believe Blizzard has said on the record that World of Warcraft II was off the table. So what are at least the possibilities for this MMO?

1. They could indeed be going for Diablo or Starcraft IP, although I doubt it (although my greatest gaming wish would be for a Diablo inspired MMO)

2. They could also be working on WoW II and just denying it. WoW II would be a great sequel if done right. My wish would be to add WoW I content that took the game to a higher level and then allowed you, once that level was reached, to ascend into a new world that would in essence transfer your character to WoW II (with new characters also starting at that level).

3. Another Blizzard property? I am not that familiar with Blizzard IP outside of the Big 3 (WC, Diablo, SC) so perhaps there is an untapped IP?

4. A completey new Blizzard property. Would love to hear some rumors

5. A deal with another company to convert thier IP.

Any rumors out there?

[IainC]

So with the upcoming release of both D3 and SC2 we can probably safely conclude that these IP's will not be used for the new MMO. With that said, I believe Blizzard has said on the record that World of Warcraft II was off the table.

The last game Blizzard released before WoW was WCIII. Why do you think that Blizzard won't use the same IP for two different games in relatively close succession?

[Sparky]

WoW 2 would be crazy.  Why risk splitting their userbase, possibly failing to recapture the magic and killing the golden goose?  Would have said World of Starcraft but if the OP thinks that's unlikely then I'm stumped.

[Murgos]

Also, relatively close in this case means 4 or more YEARS.

So, just to off hand discount Blizzards other established IP's is pretty silly.

[IainC]

Also, relatively close in this case means 4 or more YEARS.

So, just to off hand discount Blizzards other established IP's is pretty silly.

WC3 was 2002, WC3: Frozen Throne was 2003, Wow was 2004.

[Murgos]

I meant 4 or more years from SC2 or D3 to when-ever MMOX gets put on a shelf.

[Malakili]

I meant 4 or more years from SC2 or D3 to when-ever MMOX gets put on a shelf.

Quite frankly, I think they are silly to make a new MMO when they have such a brilliant thing going for them.  Its not like they are going to increase their market share by a huge percentage. 

That being said, if they are really doing it, I vote starcraft.

[Draegan]

It's been stated it won't be WOW2, but something different.  My money is on an actiony type of Diablo.

[Murgos]

It's been stated it won't be WOW2, but something different.  My money is on an actiony type of Diablo.

What I want to see is a massive FPS Starcraft.  What I imagine we'll get is WoW++, with some non-warcraft skin on it.

[Draegan]

I'd say there is a pretty good chance it won't be DIKU.  I'd say there is a decent chance that it will have a totally different art style too.

[taleril]

Wouldn't it be completely insane from their point of view to not make it DIKU?  A DIKU-ish MMO is currently making them an unprecedented amount of money.  Why would they walk away from that?

[JWIV]

Wouldn't it be completely insane from their point of view to not make it DIKU?  A DIKU-ish MMO is currently making them an unprecedented amount of money.  Why would they walk away from that?

Because inviting a direct comparison to your own game is about as much fun as poking yourself in the eye with a sharp stick.

[Draegan]

You might have some common design features like groups, classes, loot etc.   But I'd be surprised if the control scheme is exactly the same with the type of targeting, movement, hotbars etc.

[Rake]

Wow burnout will be much more of an issue by the time this new MMO arrives. And Blizzard aren't in the habit of rushing shit out the door.

So, I don't think they will be cutting their own throats, as in killing off Wow, but making sure that something new and shiny is there to catch the potential fall-off in subs that happen due to natural human behavior (get bored, see something new).

As to what the game will be? Does it really matter? If Blizzard announced a game that involves eating your own feces, it would sell like fresh doughnuts.

[Zzulo]

Hopefully it's based on Starcraft.

I'd like a new IP, but I don't see that happening.

[Arthur_Parker]

It doesn't matter what it is, everybody and their dog is going to buy it.

[Falconeer]

Call me names, or simply ignore me, but I think this is the most boring thread ever on f13.
The fact that I can't refrain from posting this shows how bored I am. Meh!

[apocrypha]

If Blizzard announced a game that involves eating your own feces, it would sell like fresh doughnuts.

And then we really WOULD see how to polish a turd 

[Trippy]

WoW 2 would be crazy.  Why risk splitting their userbase, possibly failing to recapture the magic and killing the golden goose?  Would have said World of Starcraft but if the OP thinks that's unlikely then I'm stumped.

I agree that World of Starcraft is more likely however their current goose is only laying half as many golden eggs as it could be since even though roughly half their players are in mainland China they are getting diddly squat in terms of relative revenue from there cause The9 is getting all but a small portion of it (relatively speaking). Creating a new game, even if it's only WoW II, allows them to negotitate an entirely new contract with an operator assuming they don't simply use some of their accumulated money hats and open up their own ops center over there. I.e. if they did do a WoW II and it took away *all* their WoW I players and added absolutely no new subscribers they would still be ahead in terms of revenue because they would be generating tons more revenue from their China players.

[Jack9]

Since announcement, it was destined to be a Diablo MMO. Even thinking something else is strange and unsettling. What? Blackthorne? (Superhero) Justice League? Lost Vikings? Be serious.

The interesting question of "Is it going to be DIKU or UO or EVE (not  chance in hell) skilling?", is the only undecided factor.  I suspect it will have something to do with how D3 is received. Blizzard will design the new MMO for smaller groups of people like in D3. Smaller raiding endgame with perhaps larger groups reserved for auto-matching pvp. WoW is too far in the 40 man situation and their analysts can't be so stupid to notice it's the source of most of their burnout problems. Gamers generally don't like other gamers (in the US), it's a dichotomy that has to be addressed.

[Zzulo]

Why do you consider Diablo more likely than Starcraft?

[Big Gulp]

Why do you consider Diablo more likely than Starcraft?

And God, I hope they don't go Diablo.  I've never gotten the love behind "click, click, click, loot!" games.  The Starcraft universe could be goddamned cool, though, and wouldn't be yet another fantasy MMO (but this time with demons!).

[IainC]

And God, I hope they don't go Diablo.  I've never gotten the love behind "click, click, click, loot!" games.  The Starcraft universe could be goddamned cool, though, and wouldn't be yet another fantasy MMO (but this time with demons!).

The gameplay of Diablo I and II has nothing to do with how a potential WoD might turn out. Otherwise WoW would be an MMORTS.

[eldaec]

A Diablo mmog, would play exactly the same as diablo does.

A Diablo mmog would be diablo 4 with a graphical lobby.

It won't be diablo.


It will be 'Worlds of Starcraft' and the only question is how much effort they put in to differentiate it from WoW. I wouldn't be surprised if they make it a clone of something other than EQ.

[Goreschach]

It will be 'Worlds of Starcraft' and the only question is how much effort they put in to differentiate it from WoW. I wouldn't be surprised if they make it a clone of something other than EQ.

Planetside done right.

[Zzulo]

It would be interesting to see what Blizzard did with an FPS.

[Mrbloodworth]

Id play a Starcraft MMOG, if it was a FPS. 

[Draegan]

What is the timetable for a 2nd Blizzard MMO? 2011? 2012?  I vaguely remember people discussing the life cycle of an MMO being around 8 years, that would match 2012.  Also, don't they have Starcraft coming out with multiple versions at different launch points?  Would that run over those releases or would it be perfectly match up to the time scale of WC:TFT and WOW?

Not sure if you could use that for a metric though.  Would Blizzard be releasing multiple SC games in the same time frame?

Talking out of my ass here though, but I'm going to go with a Diablo MMOG which won't be a clickfest.

[eldaec]

a Diablo MMOG which won't be a clickfest.

So... not diablo then?

[K9]

It would be interesting to see what Blizzard did with an FPS.

SC:Ghost died before we got to find out.

My money is on the Starcraft IP though, timed to coincide with the point of WoW's cycle where mudflation and burnout are resulting in a significant dip in subscriptions.

[Nebu]

Starcraft I would try with enthusiasm.  Anything WoW v2.0 or alternate fantasy by Blizzard... no thanks. 

I'm going to hope they go Starcraft.  Seems a wise direction.  Sci Fi and Fantasy seem to attract similar, yet different crowds.  Be a nice way to release a second money maker without cannibalizing too many customers from WoW... granted WoW will still take a significant hit.

[UnSub]

For a random dart throw at the board: MMOFPS, Starcraft, PC & consoles.

[CharlieMopps]

World of Starcraft FPS MMO = They make more money than god.

In fact, they make so much money, they can stack bails of it up until they can climb it to heaven to run a cat5 cable and get god to sign up for his own account.

[Fabricated]

If I recall correctly wasn't Blizzard hiring graphic and level designers with requirements that sounded suspiciously like they would be working on an FPS?

To be honest I'd rather see some new IP at this point. Blizzard is America's answer to Nintendo for milking old franchises.

[Mrbloodworth]

What is the timetable for a 2nd Blizzard MMO? 2011? 2012? 

Well...... Jeffrey Kaplan Leaves WoW for New MMO

World of Starcraft FPS MMO = They make more money than god.

Untill they make it a Gear based. Watch, they will try.