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Phred
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I had not even thought to watch a temperature monitor. Case hasn't been opened in 6 years. Haha. Seriously. Also used to smoke around it. Should probably vacuum/blow air in it.  Seriously if you smoked around it, strip it down, and clean all the parts (or pay someone to clean it) cause the tar from the smoke will be bonding dust from years of sitting there to the various cooling surfaces. I quit smoking 3 years ago and my old computer was a grotty mess because of the smoke. You could feel the film on all the parts. With the cost of gear nowadays it might be an idea to just turf it all out and start fresh. |
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rattran
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If it turns out to be video, I think that card is an Atomic Edition, so lifetime warrantee. And limited edition and such.
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schild
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« Last Edit: July 22, 2013, 11:36:14 AM by schild »
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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Trippy
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I would drop down to 8 GB of RAM (and get another 8 GB at another time) and get the Core i5-4670K instead.
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Engels
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Never understood why people are putting crazy amounts of ram into gaming machines. Unless they're gonna run 5 instances of Eve, its not doing anything.
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Trippy
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It's for the current crop of fucked up browsers.
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schild
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Firefox grinds my computer to a halt. It's insane.
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Trippy
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It's probably fucking Flash.
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schild
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Sapphire says it only offers a 2 year warranty. Unf.
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MrHat
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I would drop down to 8 GB of RAM (and get another 8 GB at another time) and get the Core i5-4670K instead.
Whats the difference between 4670 and 4670K that's worth $40? |
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JRave
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I would drop down to 8 GB of RAM (and get another 8 GB at another time) and get the Core i5-4670K instead.
Whats the difference between 4670 and 4670K that's worth $40? The "k" is for unlocked timings that allows for overclocking. If you aren't going to overclock ever, then go for the cheaper. |
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Trippy
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Price difference is only like $15, though, not $40.
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MrHat
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Ah, cool.
That was just my first go at it. Figured it looked pretty awesome.
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Goreschach
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The k series also lacks transactional memory extensions. Honestly, with dynamic freq adjustments and just how powerful, overall, computers are now, overclocking has pretty much been relegated to pointless nerdwank. Don't bother.
Also, keep in mind that a given architecture usually has around a 10x nominal TDP range. That is, you can take a chip design and size it up or cut it down by about a factor of ten before it just doesn't work at all efficiently. The high end haswell chips don't overclock that well, and the reason should be obvious. With the ULX haswell chips for tablets coming out in a few months sporting a TDP that drops below 10 watts, it's easy to see that your 84 watt high end desktop chips are coming up, base clocked, near the limits of the architecture. Desktop haswell isn't going to overclock well because the chip is already being pushed out of it's efficiency range. The fundamental reason is that computers are shrinking, Intel knows it, and they didn't bother making a new desktop chip. Haswell is effectively a laptop, not desktop, processor and was engineered for a typical platform with maybe 30-40 watts TDP.
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MrHat
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The k series also lacks transactional memory extensions. Honestly, with dynamic freq adjustments and just how powerful, overall, computers are now, overclocking has pretty much been relegated to pointless nerdwank. Don't bother.
Also, keep in mind that a given architecture usually has around a 10x nominal TDP range. That is, you can take a chip design and size it up or cut it down by about a factor of ten before it just doesn't work at all efficiently. The high end haswell chips don't overclock that well, and the reason should be obvious. With the ULX haswell chips for tablets coming out in a few months sporting a TDP that drops below 10 watts, it's easy to see that your 84 watt high end desktop chips are coming up, base clocked, near the limits of the architecture. Desktop haswell isn't going to overclock well because the chip is already being pushed out of it's efficiency range. The fundamental reason is that computers are shrinking, Intel knows it, and they didn't bother making a new desktop chip. Haswell is effectively a laptop, not desktop, processor and was engineered for a typical platform with maybe 30-40 watts TDP.
I know some of these words. |
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Trippy
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It's okay if you don't understand. it's mostly just gibberish anyways.
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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MisterNoisy
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If you're getting a 4670K (presumption is that you care - even a little - about overclocking), get a Z87 board. Otherwise get a non-K processor. If I'm honest, I'm not a huge fan of that PSU choice either, but I tend to go overkill with PSUs. This Seasonic ($80) or this XFX unit ($70 after MiR) wouldn't be bad budget choices, though. I'd also just get a cheap USB optical drive instead of an internal one, but that's just me - I can't remember the last time I used a disc for anything. Also, that Fractal case is outstanding. |
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« Last Edit: July 23, 2013, 12:57:01 PM by MisterNoisy »
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Salamok
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Needs wireless ac!
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MrHat
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If you're getting a 4670K (presumption is that you care - even a little - about overclocking), get a Z87 board. Otherwise get a non-K processor. If I'm honest, I'm not a huge fan of that PSU choice either, but I tend to go overkill with PSUs. This Seasonic ($80) or this XFX unit ($70 after MiR) wouldn't be bad budget choices, though. I'd also just get a cheap USB optical drive instead of an internal one, but that's just me - I can't remember the last time I used a disc for anything. Also, that Fractal case is outstanding. The K was cheaper at Microcenter (super close to me). My older PSU was damn near 750W which was huge overkill. Estimated draw on this mock up was about 350W, figured that 600W would be plenty. I didn't think about running an external. I might even just jack my older drive out of the older computer into the newer one and install windows, then put it back. Still messing with things. If I reuse all my old stuff including my full tower (so damn bulky), I could end up spending only about $700 on guts (CPU/MOBO/RAM/GFX). |
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JRave
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The K was cheaper at Microcenter (super close to me).
My older PSU was damn near 750W which was huge overkill. Estimated draw on this mock up was about 350W, figured that 600W would be plenty.
I didn't think about running an external. I might even just jack my older drive out of the older computer into the newer one and install windows, then put it back.
Still messing with things.
If I reuse all my old stuff including my full tower (so damn bulky), I could end up spending only about $700 on guts (CPU/MOBO/RAM/GFX).
I think his PSU issue was with it being some no-name brand. Which I would agree with him on. PSU is the last thing you ever want to cheap out on, since it can end up killing everything else in the case if it goes. If you do end up going with that mini case, you should double check your clearance within the case. That video card looks longer than normal, so I'm not sure it will fit inside that case without issues. |
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MisterNoisy
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The K was cheaper at Microcenter (super close to me).
My older PSU was damn near 750W which was huge overkill. Estimated draw on this mock up was about 350W, figured that 600W would be plenty.
I didn't think about running an external. I might even just jack my older drive out of the older computer into the newer one and install windows, then put it back.
Still messing with things.
If I reuse all my old stuff including my full tower (so damn bulky), I could end up spending only about $700 on guts (CPU/MOBO/RAM/GFX).
I think his PSU issue was with it being some no-name brand. Which I would agree with him on. PSU is the last thing you ever want to cheap out on, since it can end up killing everything else in the case if it goes. If you do end up going with that mini case, you should double check your clearance within the case. That video card looks longer than normal, so I'm not sure it will fit inside that case without issues. Spot on about the PSU, and the case has two removable drive cages, so the upper one can be pulled to clear long cards. |
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Signe
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I STILL haven't bought a desktop even though I said I would months ago. I can't seem to figure out a way to buy one without using money! I hate money. I'm considering getting a pig mask and knocking over a liquor store just as soon as I figure out how to steal a pig mask.
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My Sig Image: hath rid itself of this mortal coil.
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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01101010
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I hate this thread... it always makes me give the eyebrow to my own PC even though it is only 2 years old.
I did want to ask though... the 770s are the king of the crop in nVidia cards at the moment? I see the 760s around the $260 price point and the 660 ti's around the same. What is the difference between grabbing a 660 ti versus a 760 at this point?
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MisterNoisy
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I hate this thread... it always makes me give the eyebrow to my own PC even though it is only 2 years old.
I did want to ask though... the 770s are the king of the crop in nVidia cards at the moment? I see the 760s around the $260 price point and the 660 ti's around the same. What is the difference between grabbing a 660 ti versus a 760 at this point?
Comparison @ Anand |
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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I hate this thread... it always makes me give the eyebrow to my own PC even though it is only 2 years old.
I did want to ask though... the 770s are the king of the crop in nVidia cards at the moment? I see the 760s around the $260 price point and the 660 ti's around the same. What is the difference between grabbing a 660 ti versus a 760 at this point?
Comparison @ AnandYou sir are a gentleman and a scholar. Wish I had time to look stuff up today but holy shit this workload got right on top of me as of late. |
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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MisterNoisy
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Looks good. I'd still recommend an aftermarket cooler (Hyper 212/Xigmatek Gaia SD1283 are super cheap), just because I don't like the sound of the Intel stock one. |
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Lantyssa
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A good tower cooler is all you need. It'll keep the processor cool even if you run it hard for an all day gaming session.
Just get a mounting plate if you go that route. The plastic clips suck.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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MrHat
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A good tower cooler is all you need. It'll keep the processor cool even if you run it hard for an all day gaming session.
Just get a mounting plate if you go that route. The plastic clips suck.
What did you mean by Tower Cooler? |
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MisterNoisy
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A good tower cooler is all you need. It'll keep the processor cool even if you run it hard for an all day gaming session.
Just get a mounting plate if you go that route. The plastic clips suck.
What did you mean by Tower Cooler? Basically what I was referring to - a brick of heatpipes and aluminum fins with one or two 120mm fans, like the Hyper 212. |
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Trippy
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Note that those sorts of coolers are very good at blocking memory slots unless you use low profile memory which your Corsair Vengeance are not (they have the fins on top) and they can be tall for some cases.
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Lantyssa
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Something like this tower cooler You don't need the mega-honking super-cooler, but I like better than stock. Think all mine have been Zalman to date. [http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/cpu-cooler/#c=24&sort=a4&w=0]Link to all the coolers that fit your socket. Start around $15[/url] |
Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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