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Paelos
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I did not want to see your slick willy.
You never do!
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Sobelius
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Holy shit. What a lot of sturm und drang over something that's already been seen in other games. Champions and DC Universe have environmental objects you can toss around -- maybe not with "force" powers, but it's still doable. It's like someone ordering a pizza asks the server about getting different toppings on their slice and some tight ass customer in the restaurant, who may have worked in a pizza place at one time in the past, starts bitching loudly about how the whole goddamn world wants a little variety but it shouldn't be allowed because it might cause the fucking pizza place to burn down.
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Sobelius
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Nothing more immersion-breaking than seeing someone pull a piece of engine junk out of the floor of a starship.
How about just changing to some kind of force energy ball or something? Oil tanks, heh. A bucket of awesome.
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"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -- Voltaire "A world without Vin Diesel is sad." -- me
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Paelos
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Champions and DC Universe have environmental objects And both those games suck and are failures.
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Rasix
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Yes, and they were designed with failure numbers in mind and sold primarily on their actiony action.
edit: My point being, I don't think you're going to see this in a game designed for mass market and especially when it applies to ONE SPELL.
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« Last Edit: August 05, 2011, 08:49:07 AM by Rasix »
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UnSub
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Champions and DC Universe have environmental objects And both those games suck and are failures. Ergo, there is no lesson that can possibly be learned from them.
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Sky
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And both those games suck and are failures.
They weren't failures. Few mmo are.
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Sheepherder
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When you polish a car you aren't touching the engine, you're just making the body sparkle. Obviously someone here has never refinished the cylinder walls/sleeves in an engine.
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Paelos
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Yes, and they were designed with failure numbers in mind and sold primarily on their actiony action.
edit: My point being, I don't think you're going to see this in a game designed for mass market and especially when it applies to ONE SPELL.
I don't like the spell and I'm taking the time to be completely irrational about it. Why? Because it's ridiculous looking. There's no reason for it in the game, so much so that it's literally become of the laughing-stock focal point of comic jibes. It's not about immersion because I think we all know that's just silly to argue about it. To me, that one particular spell that we will undoubtedly see spammed in every single fight over and over will make me want to turn off all spell effects just so I don't have to deal with it flying at my target. But then I will probably miss the ground fire.
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Nija
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Just have it fall out of the sky like you're putting in GTA cheat codes.
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Reg
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So I guess this horrifying spell is going to stop you guys from buying the game right?
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Lucas
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SnakeCharmer
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So I guess this horrifying spell is going to stop you guys from buying the game right?
Oh shut the fuck up. You can buy it, love it, and still bitch about it.
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Mrbloodworth
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So I guess this horrifying spell is going to stop you guys from buying the game right?
I don't really care, they likely tried my suggestion ( And many more I'm sure ) and went with this one for some reason we will never know. I just like brainstorming such things. My list of complaints are larger than this issue!
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Reg
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So I guess this horrifying spell is going to stop you guys from buying the game right?
Oh shut the fuck up. You can buy it, love it, and still bitch about it. Oh absolutely. And there's nothing even slightly silly about massive dramatic whining over a spell nobody outside of beta has even seen outside of a few clips.
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Paelos
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So I guess this horrifying spell is going to stop you guys from buying the game right?
Oh shut the fuck up. You can buy it, love it, and still bitch about it. Oh absolutely. And there's nothing even slightly silly about massive dramatic whining over a spell nobody outside of beta has even seen outside of a few clips. 1 - A turd looks like a turd, no matter if you see it in person or in a picture. 2 - Nice high ground post about massive whining on a gaming forum. 3 - Eat a dick.
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Sky
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Jedi Consular page now updated!
About damn time, the forum whining was reaching a fevered pitch "Oh you've updated BHs TWICE without updating Consulars!!!!" Oh go toss a tank, ya buncha oiltankers. Still no progression video, haha. edit: maybe the progression video can show increasingly more bejeweled oiltanks.
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Reg
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You aren't reading the actual official forums are you Sky? What's their position on the horrifying oil tank spell controversy?
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eldaec
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Theoretically I should be all over consular, as they should be the best class for throwing stormtroopers off of things, which is the main reason for playing any star wars game. But the weak ass sabre stance and the whole oil tank fiasco really puts you off. That video isn't actually terrible compared to how these guys look in the other videos.
Also, I really dislike the way the robes animate on consulars and inquisitors. CoH did loose clothing better in 2004.
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Lucas
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Story-wise, Consular is my first choice for the Republic, just like Imperial Agent is for the Sith Empire;
(what follows are entirely personal considerations, of course)
* Regarding the Republic:
- Jedi Knights will be overused; also, I'm more interested in the Force aspect of the Jedis (Midi-what? :P), not simply being on the frontlines as a Knight. - Trooper, for the same reason, gives me too much a "infantry frontline plot" idea to appeal me ; - Smuggler: I fear it will be too "Han Solo" cliched, in a cheesy way. Hope I'm wrong ;
* Sith Empire:
- Sith Warrior: see Jedi Knights above ; - Bounty Hunter: Might be my second choice for the Empire; looks like it's not gonna be a boring class to use; - Sith Inquisitor: yep, interesting, but first I'll play its Republic mirror-class, anyway.
Imperial Agent sounds very interesting to me because a) it's outside the usual SW archetypes, so Bioware may get a little more creative with them; b) I like infiltration/secret ops/snipers characters in general.
Of course I'll probably try them all sooner or later to check out the gameplay, but I'm doing my best to totally ignore the usual Diku MMO class classification (which I hate, by the way) for this title, I just want to enjoy the stories.
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Sky
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You aren't reading the actual official forums are you Sky? What's their position on the horrifying oil tank spell controversy?
Not really. But there seems to be pretty much positive reception of it. Not that folks posting on an official board pre-launch should be listened to whatsoever. It's great for a laugh, though. I was thinking about a consular, but it's the one time I would want a macro. So I could macro the throw ability with me yelling "OILTANK!" Or maybe "The Force is strong with BP!" Or maybe the classic "You've contaminated your own oil fields, Sith, you'll not contaminate mine!"
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Murgos
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I think at this point it's going around the bend and becoming iconic. Oiltanks that is. The linked video features the Consular ripping one out of bedrock in the final climatic scene. Either that or they are fucking with us (specifically us in this thread).
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Riggswolfe
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I think at this point it's going around the bend and becoming iconic. Oiltanks that is. The linked video features the Consular ripping one out of bedrock in the final climatic scene. Either that or they are fucking with us (specifically us in this thread). *watches the video* Lol, that's what this "controversy" is about? *rolls eyes and snickers*
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eldaec
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The video showed it once and implied it was only an occasional thing, other walkthrough videos would make you think the oil tank was the primary function of the consular.
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Story-wise, Consular is my first choice for the Republic, just like Imperial Agent is for the Sith Empire;
Get out of my head :/
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Lucas
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Story-wise, Consular is my first choice for the Republic, just like Imperial Agent is for the Sith Empire;
Get out of my head :/ NO U ! :P (hey, don't look at me like that: between "oil tanks" gate, figuring how to download a 138GB client, conceal vague references to an evil beta leak website and general horse beating, we have to reach page 300 and 10.000 posts somehow before NDA drops :P)
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Paelos
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I can promise to do my part by railing against our oil tank tossing overlords.
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Lantyssa
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Don't make me toss the can at you. I can toss the can. I'll do it!
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Ingmar
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I am going to spam the shit out of those oil cans every chance I get.
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Sjofn
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While I shoot you with my healing bullets.
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Fordel
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You should be shooting me with healing bullets!
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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4550 BBY: The great Oil Tank Wars leave the surfaces of nearly all habitable planets strewn with uniformly manufactured metal containers,
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Lakov_Sanite
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Who even cares about Jedi? Female trooper femshep for great justice.
Also unanswered questions for me are: -Monthly cost? -How long is each characters storyline before you get dumped into every class quests? -What is max level in this game?
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Merusk
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You should be shooting me with healing bullets!
I misread this as healing boobs and was more entertained.
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Sjofn
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You should be shooting me with healing bullets!
I'm not going to hold my breath on you tanking. You'll fall in love with the shittiest spec the trooper has and never let it go.
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