Raph is no longer taunting us (Metaplace)

[tazelbain]

Funny that you name drop F13 in the interview, because it seems like he was reading this thread when he made his prep questions.

For what it's worth, I no longer feel taunted.

It would be interesting to have a Game Design Contest where we slung games back and forth, not just text.

[schild]

Ok, to be fair Raph, those people saying I want to make a Cyberpunk world or a University will be months maybe even years behind pornoland. We're just in touch with reality.

F13 is where gamers go to be in touch with reality.

Dreams are for everywhere else.

[Kaa]

Eeenteresting...

I like the vision and the idea. But I can also see a large number of pit traps which sharpened spears at the bottom, bogs, morasses, lava flows, and crowds of soul-sucking lawyharpies flying around. The predecessors -- from VRML to Second Life, from NWN to Sims -- aren't too inspiring. Raph thinks he can do it right -- well, we'll see.

Kaa

[Kaa]

And, by the way, this -- http://www.news.com/Google-tools-to-power-virtual-worlds/2100-1043_3-6212325.html?tag=nefd.lede -- is what Areae should be scared of.

Kaa

[Salamok]

And, by the way, this -- http://www.news.com/Google-tools-to-power-virtual-worlds/2100-1043_3-6212325.html?tag=nefd.lede -- is what Areae should be scared of.

Kaa

lol, I wonder what will happen when someone turns the Vatican into pornoland?

[Kaa]

lol, I wonder what will happen when someone turns the Vatican into pornoland?

whitehouse.com was a porno site for years and the world didn't collapse...

kaa

[bhodi]

Please please PLEASE stop signing your posts. I can look to the left and see who you are. Especially when you  have 3 out of the 4 last posts.

[Kaa]

Please please PLEASE stop signing your posts. I can look to the left and see who you are. Especially when you  have 3 out of the 4 last posts.

Why does it bother you so?

Kaa

[Bunk]

The predecessors -- from VRML to Second Life, from NWN to Sims -- aren't too inspiring. Raph thinks he can do it right -- well, we'll see.

You've lost me here. Second Life is a huge success when you look at how monumentally non-user friendly it is. People have made a living making content for that monstrosity.

And then we have the Sims. Sims 2 is most likely the biggest custom content and modding game in the world, and it currently targets much the same type of people that Metaplace likely will covet. Give the system easy Sim style tools that the teenage crowd can use to build thier own little houses, that they can then link to all of thier friends little houses - It's gold Jerry.

Bunk

I felt left out

[Kaa]

You've lost me here.

Do notice that I said "inspiring".

I'm not talking neither about commercial success, nor about the subscriber base of things like BarbieGirls and CokeMusic.

Kaa

[Venkman]

SL is a successful implementation of a collaberative CAD enviroment. It has a lot of activity for a world that's so hard to use. And they have a fantastic PR angle. But it's hardly ubiquitous nor really very relevant when it comes to the type of folks Metaplace is hoping to attract. And that crowd is a few zeroes larger in size :)

The pitfalls Kaa seems to be seeing is the first types of creativity explored in new customizable environments. Given Raph's history, I expect 200 UO riffs right away. Given the history of new media-driven business models, I'm expecting copious amounts of pr0n too. But given the compartmentalized nature of Metaplace, I see it much closer to MyFaceSpace than SL. But both places share the same "yellow pages without page numbers" problem that the whole internet does. You gotta get people to your world, and to do that you gotta advertise in some form.

Darniaq

[Sky]

Darniaq

Lulz!


Sky

[bhodi]

And here I sent a PM instead of wasting threadspace. I shouldn't have bothered! Sorry Raph! I look forward to your game (framework)!

bhodi

[Yegolev]

lol, I wonder what will happen when someone turns the Vatican into pornoland?

You mean again?


Yegolev

[Pennilenko]

Please please PLEASE stop signing your posts. I can look to the left and see who you are. Especially when you  have 3 out of the 4 last posts.

I like it when people sign their posts. It means they care.

-Pennilenko

[Venkman]

I just got that. lulz. :)

Darniaq

[WayAbvPar]

I have scrambled F13's reserve force of cockstabbing midgets and given them instructions to do their worst to all you post signers. I am sorry it had to come to this, and may god have mercy on you genitalia (because the midgets won't).

[Pennilenko]

I have scrambled F13's reserve force of cockstabbing midgets and given them instructions to do their worst to all you post signers. I am sorry it had to come to this, and may god have mercy on you genitalia (because the midgets won't).

Because I'm Kinky like that.


-Pennilenko

[Yegolev]

I have scrambled F13's reserve force of cockstabbing midgets and given them instructions to do their worst to all you post signers. I am sorry it had to come to this, and may god have mercy on you genitalia (because the midgets won't).

Why do you hate freedom?


Yegolev

[Grand Design]

I'm no longer feeling taunted.  That interview answered a lot of speculation that has been in this thread.  I am, however, now feeling somewhat discounted since Raph decided that our ideas in this thread are a joke.

Meatplace is a shared hope.  A vision.  The future of gaming.    Meatplace is a dream we have all shared and we don't want to wake from that dream.  We will erect Meatplace.  You cannot make flaccid what is so hardened in the stone of our imaginations.  If we build Meatplace, they will come.

Kaa

[Morfiend]

I have scrambled F13's reserve force of cockstabbing midgets and given them instructions to do their worst to all you post signers. I am sorry it had to come to this, and may god have mercy on you genitalia (because the midgets won't).

Why do you hate freedom?


Yegolev

Clearly he wants the terrorists to win.


-Morfiend

[Yoru]

We’re architected differently—in some ways we’re architected more like an LPMud, for those few of your readers who know what I’m talking about.

I need new pants.

I've been working with LPC for years now, and I've been wondering why no one else seemed to have made the connection that building an engine on the LP (or, to be more modern, ColdC) model could be a huge win.

But it looks like someone did.

[Arrrgh]

I'm no longer feeling taunted.  That interview answered a lot of speculation that has been in this thread.  I am, however, now feeling somewhat discounted since Raph decided that our ideas in this thread are a joke.

Meatplace is a shared hope.  A vision.  The future of gaming.    Meatplace is a dream we have all shared and we don't want to wake from that dream.  We will erect Meatplace.  You cannot make flaccid what is so hardened in the stone of our imaginations.  If we build Meatplace, they will come.

Kaa

How many Kaa are there?

[schild]

thread title wins

schild

[Grand Design]

How many Kaa are there?

In Meatplace, as many as you can Imaginate^tm

[schild]

tazelbain got a custom title

schild

ps shift key still broken from lulzing at ea-bioware

pps schild

[Aez]

We’re architected differently—in some ways we’re architected more like an LPMud, for those few of your readers who know what I’m talking about.

I need new pants.

I've been working with LPC for years now, and I've been wondering why no one else seemed to have made the connection that building an engine on the LP (or, to be more modern, ColdC) model could be a huge win.

But it looks like someone did.

Bringing back the mud mindset and community on an visual platform would be a HUGE achievement.
Hats off if they pull this out.

[tazelbain]

I am, however, now feeling somewhat discounted since Raph decided that our ideas in this thread are a joke.

It's easy to laugh now.  But come 6 months after they launch, when he has a bunch of lawyers and the FBI in his face because Timmy showed his virtual strip club to his 3rd grade classmates, I hope he still think its a joke.

Or maybe the joke is he plans to get bought out long before and that is someone else's problem.  Which would be funny.

[Musashi]

I don't really feel taunted anymore either.  However, the more I read about this, the more I like.  I doubt I'd ever do more than spend a few minutes dicking around with creating a world.  But I guess I can see how this platform will be a gateway for new game-makers like muds were in the past.  That was the biggest doubt I had, really.  When Raph claimed that he wanted to 'bring back the mod community,' I wanted to link him to curse gaming or wowace and say, "What you mean bring back?  Look at all these assholes here!"  After I pulled my head out of my ass, I realized that there was much more of an open-ended opportunity for people who were inclined to learn how to make games that I might enjoy in the future within this project.  That's got to be a good thing.  When I was a kid, we made different color shapes and shit bounce across the screen on our Atari 400.  Oh god.

Hey, I don't do myspace.  I'm too old.  I really doubt this project will even have any impact on me at all directly.  Maybe I'll have an avatar to log in and tell my kid to go to bed or something.  "DAD!  GTFO!"  Man I'm an asshole.  But if my kid learns how to make something cool, then I'm all for it.

[Righ]

I don't know why some people are so upset with other people signing their posts.

[Grand Design]

That is the most fucking incredible sig ever.


Can you make me one?

[cmlancas]

Did anyone here muck around in MOOs as children? I had one when I was younger where we made pokemans bots. I think I was 12.

Why did GMOOs get pushed to the side for so long?

CMLANCAS

[Hoax]

tazelbain got a custom title

GRATZ

[Margalis]

Both my inner geek and my inner cynic are excited.

[Samwise]

Both my inner geek and my inner cynic are excited.

You have summed my feelings up perfectly.  Thank you.

I desperately want into the alpha for this thing.  I need to know one way or the other if this is everything it's being painted as.