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Topic: Raph is no longer taunting us (Metaplace) (Read 519343 times)
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Furiously
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They had better be very good tools. They better offer awesome policing tools.
Personally, I think you're starting five years too late. But I look forward to you showing me just how wrong I am.
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Pennilenko
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They had better be very good tools. They better offer awesome policing tools.
Personally, I think you're starting five years too late. But I look forward to you showing me just how wrong I am.
Web Tech and Computer Hardware from five years ago would not have been able to support such an endeavor, and if they had started back them to get a leg up on the market then they would have had to go in and rewrite alot of their tools and other software along the way to make good on new tech releases. I think thats the case at least. |
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Ixxit
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More details emerge: http://www.metaplaces.de/forums//viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88This one struck me a little odd in that the 'attitude' concerning adult content is somewhat hands off (like the statement about copyright content being a link out of their area of responsibility ) and also a little cavalier. 4) each game has distinct rules, logic, key-mappings, etc. completely seperate from the others. yes, there will be porn (duh! it's the internet!), but that porn won't be in your "men-in-tights" mmorpg if you don't allow it. if your game rules don't allow users to upload their own content, you don't have to worry about flying penises. rigid, kid-safe content or wild-west user-uploaded chaos -- you don't necessarily have both in the same world. you don't have to worry about goatses in bobby's little world if bobby doesn't want it and he doesn't allow users to upload content. Kind of an odd statement, as it kind of sounds like everything is on the table. Is this what potential investors really want to hear? Okay, so you can lock down your world great, but will Coke, IBM, Parmount, Universal want spend their advertising dollars in a system that also hosts goatse world or other worlds that host their copyrighted content. [EDIT] I guess the big question will be how effective will a Coke banner ad appear when juxtaposed above a cavernous three dimensional gaping asshole? Making the assupmption of course that the Adsense system (as described earlier in this thread) )will place random ads as you traverse the various metaplace worlds. The link also says that you can make games like Runescape and Club Penguin. Are you guys also hoping to target kids/tweens who would be attracted to the 'free' model and also the advertisers that come with that territory. If that's the case you guys really should ]really try to control the message and avoid statements like "Porn !!!!! duh it's the internet" . Just sayin', is all. |
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« Last Edit: September 24, 2007, 09:14:43 AM by Ixxit »
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BigBlack
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I'd love it if Raph would pop in and talk to us a little, in very general terms of course, about what his goals for the scripting capabilities are.
*bats eyes*
Pretty please?
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Krakrok
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Porn
Porn (duh! it's the internet!). Seriously, you know who will advertise next to porn related content? Other porn sites. Google Adwords/Adsense advertises porn. Ever used Google Image search? It's not affecting their stock price any. The publisher of the material is ultimately responsible. |
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HaemishM
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"Metaplace" is a horrible name that is an instant turn-off for the vast majority of casuals who don't even understand what "meta" means and the entire thing sounds like a business plan in search of a concept to drive it.
In many ways the things Raph has done before are for the very hardcore. I think Raph trying to go after casual users is a fish-out-of-water scenario, I don't think it's in his DNA and the name really gives that away.
The name Metaplace is for the world-building shit. The GAMES made out of Metaplace will be named something else. The market for Metaplace is creators, not consumers. |
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Yegolev
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Damn straight. Also, someone needs to get onto that Meatplace design document. We don't want another Sims Online.
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question.
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Ixxit
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Porn (duh! it's the internet!). Seriously, you know who will advertise next to porn related content? Other porn sites. Google Adwords/Adsense advertises porn. Ever used Google Image search? It's not affecting their stock price any. The publisher of the material is ultimately responsible.
Sure, but only if "Google is to Internet as Metaplace is to Internet 2.X" which I don't think is the case, unless there is something I am not understanding. Regardless, my main point was that I am kind of surprised that 2 employees from Areae (not Raph) have been channelling Alfred E. Newman when discussing things like adult content and copyright issues. Problems that have caused negative press for Second Life, and other online communities. Something I would think an up adn coming company would try to avoid. |
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« Last Edit: September 24, 2007, 10:45:29 AM by Ixxit »
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UnSub
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Porn (duh! it's the internet!). Seriously, you know who will advertise next to porn related content? Other porn sites. Google Adwords/Adsense advertises porn. Ever used Google Image search? It's not affecting their stock price any. The publisher of the material is ultimately responsible.
Sure, but only if "Google is to Internet as Metaplace is to Internet 2.X" which I don't think is the case, unless there is something I am not understanding. Regardless, my main point was that I am kind of surprised that 2 employees from Areae (not Raph) have been channelling Alfred E. Newman when discussing things like adult content and copyright issues. Problems that have caused negative press for Second Life, and other online communities. Something I would think an up adn coming company would try to avoid. I think it shows some honesty in advertising. They've acknowledged that porn exists (something that Second Life has seemed to avoid mentioning whenever possible) but the key fact is that it won't exist in the same 'world' as yours if you don't want it to. I think that makes Metaplace more interesting for advertisers to build their own worlds in than Second Life, because they can control 100% of the content that appears in it. A brothel won't suddenly open up across the street in Metaplace. |
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UnSub
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The name is simple enough for people to get, even if it (perhaps intentionally) falls into generic associations with MySpace and Facebook (and seriously, what's a facebook?).
Most people know what "my" and "space" mean and a facebook is a common real-life college thing. (It's a book of incoming freshman) The word "meta" is meaningless to most people. My non-US heritage is revealed in my lack of knowledge about what a facebook is. Not that it matters - Facebook is popular in lots of countries that don't know what facebooks are. But on a similar theme: what's a vista? What's an ubuntu? What's an ipod? My point: it doesn't matter what the name is if 1) it's simple enough to be remembered and 2) you can build on it. Metaplace meets these requirements. It's up to Raph & co to carve out what Metaplace means. |
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Quinton
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Most people know what "my" and "space" mean and a facebook is a common real-life college thing. (It's a book of incoming freshman) The word "meta" is meaningless to most people.
My non-US heritage is revealed in my lack of knowledge about what a facebook is. Not that it matters - Facebook is popular in lots of countries that don't know what facebooks are. If it makes you feel any better, I'm a native and I had never heard of such a thing. Perhaps the term was more popular either before or after I was in college in the early 90s... - Q |
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Yegolev
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Never heard of a facebook until now. I have, however, heard of a meatplace.
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question.
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Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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Sky
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Never heard of a facebook until now. I have, however, heard of a meatplace.
I agree with what Yeg said. |
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Signe
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I didn't know what a facebook was either so I googled it. Cleared that up. However, googling meatplace didn't help at all. Some of it just returns misspellings of Metaplace.
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schild
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We are the 2nd result for Meatplace.
I hope this is not the best thing to come out of Raph's game.
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Yegolev
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We are the 2nd result for Meatplace.
We will be first once Raph's product is within our sweaty grips. Also, meatplace.net is free. |
Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question.
They called it The Prayer, its answer was law
Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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naum
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Did you mean to search for: metpolice
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Cuppycake
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The market for Metaplace is creators, not consumers.
This is simply not true. We definitely feel that 90% of our users will be players. We want players to be able to visit our portal, register, get their own custom profile, save their favorite games and rate them. We expect a lot of gamers to spend lots of time just playing games on Metaplace, earning badges and rewards (think EA's Pogo). We're accepting both players and creators into our testing. |
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Kaa
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This is simply not true. We definitely feel that 90% of our users will be players. We want players to be able to visit our portal, register, get their own custom profile, save their favorite games and rate them.
Umm... Cuppy, you said that Meatplace is a platform. So do you count as "your" users everyone who'll be playing any game created on that platform? How independent will the game creators be able to be and how much control will Areae keep over what's happening in third-party games? Kaa |
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Merusk
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OOooh I get it now.
For ad-selling purposes, they ALLL your users. "elevnenty billion eyeballs a week!1!!"
But for legal/ copyright/ omgdontsuemeitsthem purposes you're, 'just a platform omg we don't control those weirdos!"
You got us diagonally. Pretty sneaky, sis.
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UnSub
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Will Metaplace have ragdoll in place on launch? Promising and talented FPS designers want to know!
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Margalis
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Probably only snobby colleges do facebooks. I didn't get one or have my picture in one my I know my school had one.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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schild
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Will Metaplace have ragdoll in place on launch? Promising and talented FPS designers want to know!
Metaplace is not what you think it is. Now, will someone tell my why there's still a school girl giving the thumbs up to a cyclops dinosaur that's shitting a pink joshua tree out of his ass on the web page? |
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Simond
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HaemishM
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The market for Metaplace is creators, not consumers.
This is simply not true. We definitely feel that 90% of our users will be players. We want players to be able to visit our portal, register, get their own custom profile, save their favorite games and rate them. We expect a lot of gamers to spend lots of time just playing games on Metaplace, earning badges and rewards (think EA's Pogo). We're accepting both players and creators into our testing. You go on thinking that. Not to be nasty, but Metaplace is going to have to dirt-dumb simple to create stuff with for you to worry about marketing the name Metaplace to anyone. Like MySpace moron simple. I'm really not too sure Metaplace will take off as a community site for consumers. |
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Yegolev
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Now, will someone tell my why there's still a school girl giving the thumbs up to a cyclops dinosaur that's shitting a pink joshua tree out of his ass on the web page?
Web 2.0 says "Don't look behind the curtain!" |
Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question.
They called it The Prayer, its answer was law
Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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Xanthippe
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I was talking about Metaplace to my almost-9 year old daughter and her friend who is 10. They started talking about all sorts of things they could do at such a place (things that would never occur to me), things they could make, ways to interact. Scoff if you like, but in a few years these kids will be driving the market, consuming and creating content.
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schild
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No, they won't. In a few years they'll be talking about what car they want and trying to decide who the cutest guy in school is and why all the Jews have the best parties.
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Signe
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Why do all the Jews have the best parties?
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Salamok
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Why do all the Jews have the best parties?
because they taking party planning 101 when they are 12 and graduate when they are 13. |
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Kaa
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Why do all the Jews have the best parties?
Having a contract with God does have its advantages. Kaa |
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Sky
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Vikings make the best party-crashers though!
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Why do all the Jews have the best parties?
I think it was that water into wine trick one of them allegedly did a couple of millennia ago. |
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Grand Design
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Why do all the Jews have the best parties?
I think it was that water into wine trick one of them allegedly did a couple of millennia ago. Yeah, and supposedly that guy went on to found a whole religion made for people who party too much and thus require penance. |
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Salamok
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Why do all the Jews have the best parties?
I think it was that water into wine trick one of them allegedly did a couple of millennia ago. If I had to drink Manishevitz I'd water it down too. |
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