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Margalis
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Since a bunch of us are in leagues, discuss here.
My cards:
Qty,Card Name 1,Anaba Shaman 1,Angel's Feather 1,Aven Cloudchaser 1,Aven Fisher 1,Aven Flock 1,Battlefield Forge 1,Blaze 1,Coercion 1,Contaminated Bond 1,Crafty Pathmage 1,Craw Wurm 1,Dark Banishing 1,Demon's Horn 1,Demystify 1,Dragon's Claw 1,Dream Prowler 1,Elvish Berserker 1,Elvish Champion 1,Elvish Warrior 1,Enfeeblement 1,Fishliver Oil 1,Flame Wave 1,Flowstone Shambler 1,Foot Soldiers 8,Forest 1,Form of the Dragon 1,Giant Cockroach 1,Giant Growth 1,Giant Spider 1,Goblin Brigand 1,Goblin Piker 1,Goblin Sky Raider 1,Groundskeeper 1,Hill Giant 1,Holy Strength 1,Horned Turtle 1,Horror of Horrors 1,Inspirit 2,Island 1,King Cheetah 1,Lumengrid Warden 1,Mind Rot 12,Mountain 1,Natural Spring 1,Norwood Ranger 1,Panic Attack 1,Peace of Mind 1,Pegasus Charger 1,Plagiarize 1,Plague Beetle 1,Plains 1,Raging Goblin 1,Rampant Growth 1,Razortooth Rats 1,Reflexes 1,Reminisce 1,Sacred Nectar 1,Sage Aven 1,Samite Healer 1,Sea's Claim 1,Sengir Vampire 1,Serpent Warrior (premium) 1,Shatter 1,Sift 1,Slay 2,Swamp 1,Thieving Magpie 1,Time Ebb 1,Unholy Strength 1,Veteran Cavalier 1,Warrior's Honor 1,Wind Drake 1,Wood Elves 1,Yavimaya Enchantress 1,Zodiac Monkey
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So, what do I see here? Solid green creatures but no evasion. Some giant red cards that are almost instant wins if I can cast them, but pretty thin red otherwise. Some blue flyers without much to go with them. Some white flyers without much to go with them. A couple decent removal spells in black along with so-so creatures.
So...I dunno. I don't think white+blue flyers would do the job, because they are all cost-innificient and I have no counters or anything like that, or any finishers. The second someone drops a real beater I'm toast. Guess it depends on how many real beaters there are. But a bunch of 1 and 2 power flying guys might not get the job done.
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« Last Edit: September 01, 2005, 10:48:56 PM by Margalis »
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Hoax
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White: 1)Savannah Lions Holy Str Honor Guard Mending Hands 2)Vet. Cavalier Glory Seeker Pacifism Master Decoy Peace of Mind 3)Warrior's Honor Pegasus Charger Inspirit 4)Foot Soldiers
Blue: 1)Flight Fugative Wizard 2)Lumengrid Warden Remove Soul 3)Reminisce Horned Turtle 4)Dream Prowler Thieving Magpie Dehydration Aven Fisher Sage Aven 5)Aven Windreader 6)Sea Monster 8)Tidal Kraken
Black: 1)Raise Dead Unholy Str. 2)Bot Imp Fear Contaminated Bond 3)Coercian Mind Rot Slay Looming Shade Razortooth Rats Scathe Zombies 5)Final Punishment Horror of Horrors Hollow Dogs
Red: 1)Firebreathing 2)Volcanic Hammer Shatter Goblin Brigand Goblin Piker Rogue Kavu 3)Stone Rain Seething Song Flowstone Shambler Goblin Chariot 7)Flame Wave x)Blaze
Green: 1)Groundskeeper Reclaim Llanowar Elves 2)Elvish Warrior 3)Rootwalla Wood Elves Yavimaya Enchantress 4)Giant Spider King Cheetah 5)Kavu Climber Seedborn Muse 6)Craw Wurm 8)Scaled Wurm
Artifact: Angel's Feather Demon's Horn Dragon's Claw Coat of Arms
Little help? The best thing I've come up with currently is:
white: Vet Cavalier Mending Hands Inspirit Glory Seeker Foot Soldiers Pacifism Master Decoy Honor Guard Holy Str.
Blue: Lumengrid Warden Fugitive Wizard Sage Aven Aven Fisher Aven Windreader Remove Soul Flight Dehydration
Green: Yavimaya Enchantress Scaled Wurm Reclaim Llanowar Elves Kavu Climber Groundskeeper
Artifact: Coat of Arms
5xForest 5xIsland 6xPlains
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« Last Edit: September 02, 2005, 07:29:36 AM by Hoax »
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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eldaec
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Guys, sorting by colour means we don't need to reach through the screen and throttle you.
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"People will not assume that what they read on the internet is trustworthy or that it carries any particular assurance or accuracy" - Lord Leveson "Hyperbole is a cancer" - Lakov Sanite
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Margalis
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Will edit when I get a chance. (Not till Monday)
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Raging Turtle
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White: 1)Savannah Lions Holy Str Honor Guard Mending Hands 2)Vet. Cavalier Glory Seeker Pacifism Master Decoy Peace of Mind 3)Warrior's Honor Pegasus Charger Inspirit 4)Foot Soldiers
Blue: 1)Flight Fugative Wizard 2)Lumengrid Warden Remove Soul 3)Reminisce Horned Turtle 4)Dream Prowler Thieving Magpie Dehydration Aven Fisher Sage Aven 5)Aven Windreader 6)Sea Monster 8)Tidal Kraken
Black: 1)Raise Dead Unholy Str. 2)Bot Imp Fear Contaminated Bond 3)Coercian Mind Rot Slay Looming Shade Razortooth Rats Scathe Zombies 5)Final Punishment Horror of Horrors Hollow Dogs
Red: 1)Firebreathing 2)Volcanic Hammer Shatter Goblin Brigand Goblin Piker Rogue Kavu 3)Stone Rain Seething Song Flowstone Shambler Goblin Chariot 7)Flame Wave x)Blaze
Green: 1)Groundskeeper Reclaim Llanowar Elves 2)Elvish Warrior 3)Rootwalla Wood Elves Yavimaya Enchantress 4)Giant Spider King Cheetah 5)Kavu Climber Seedborn Muse 6)Craw Wurm 8)Scaled Wurm
Artifact: Angel's Feather Demon's Horn Dragon's Claw Coat of Arms Your best stuff (which you won't play if there's not enough support for it) White: Pacifism, Master Decoy Blue: Thieving Magpie, Tidal Kraken Green: Um... Craw Wurm and Reclaim are nice. Muse is ok but can't shine like it does when you build a deck around it. Red: BLAZE, Volcanic Hammer, Flame Wave Black: Horror of Horrors is.... haha, no. You're playing Blaze no matter what. I'm thinking G/W/r White: Lions Holy Strength 2x Vet. Cav. Glory Seeker Pacifism Master Decoy 2x Foot Soldiers Inspirit Pegasus Charger Green: Llan Elves Elvish Warrior Wood Elves Rootwalla G. Spider K. Cheetah Kavu Climber Craw Wurm Scaled Wurm Red Blaze Volcanic Hammer Artifact: Coat of Arms - actually works well in this deck, but look at the opponents creatures carefully before playing it. 8x Plains 7x Forests 2x Mountains That's a good deck. I'm not sure how great the mana curve is but you can check that out online.
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Strazos
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Guys, sorting by colour means we don't need to reach through the screen and throttle you.
When I save my stuff as a txt, even if I sorted by color before saving, it doesn't show up that way in the txt.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Johny Cee
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Joined the league, and managed to win my first game last night. (Even if the server dumped everyone 90% of the way through round 3). Marble Titan + Master Decoy + enchantment that gives all my creatures vigilance = win. For Hoax: Master Decoy is good enough to be splashed for if you have no other white. He's a game winner. Pacifism is sweet, sweet stuff as well. Magpie is a bomb, if you're mana is stable enough. Kraken is excellent in limited. Yavimaya Enchantress is generally good enough to see play (enchantments are far more common in limited). Running Holy Strength and Pacifism, it's fairly likely that your enchantress would be at least a 3/3 (for 3 mana, making it a bargain). Turtle put together a good listing, but I"m a little concerned about lack of removal combined with a small number of fliers. Not much you can do with what they gave you, though.
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Margalis
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It does seem like enchantments are pretty common now, so yes on the enchantress.
His blue has some decent flyers and dehydration, not sure if it is deep enough though. White is clearly the strongest color.
If playing green I would play the Muse. Think about this: You can play creatures on your turn, then untap and play King Cheetah or Inspirit on their turn. And it lets master decoy go again! Master Decoy + Muse is 90% towards winning the game. I would dump a Foot Soldiers and put in the Muse. Muse can win games, Foot Soldiers can't. Especially given that you don't have tons of evasion, the chance to use Master Decoy twice is too much to pass up.
Worse case scenario, you get muse instead of foot soldiers, is that you pay 1 more for a 2/4 and still get to untap everything during their turn.
Other than that the list looks pretty good.
Blue looks very tempting with some flyers, dehydration, etc., but it may not be deep enough. Maybe in later weeks it will improve a bit.
I will be willing to playtest with some people when I get back from vacation on Tuesday.
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Hoax
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I dont have two of anything, the numbers are the casting cost, just to let people see the mana curve easily.
If anyone will be around tonight to playtest (from 7pm pst on) I'd be happy to get some practice in.
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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eldaec
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Guys, sorting by colour means we don't need to reach through the screen and throttle you.
When I save my stuff as a txt, even if I sorted by color before saving, it doesn't show up that way in the txt. Unfortunately there is no way around that - you have to type it out manually at the moment, programs are available once sets have been out a few weekseldaec to automatically convert the .csv outout into bbcode autocard links. What we really need to do is bug schild to implement [card] tags ;)
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"People will not assume that what they read on the internet is trustworthy or that it carries any particular assurance or accuracy" - Lord Leveson "Hyperbole is a cancer" - Lakov Sanite
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Shockeye
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What we really need to do is bug schild Shockeye to implement [card] tags ;)
What exactly would the [card] tag do?
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Raging Turtle
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For some reason I was thinking the muse only untapped land and not creatures. So definitely play it - although by now it may be tough to get a game in your league
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Hoax
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I found this to be the most effective of the many things I tried once it became obvious I am still very very rusty at all this.
1,Flight 1,Mending Hands 1,Savannah Lions 1,Goblin Piker 1,Volcanic Hammer 1,Remove Soul 1,Glory Seeker 1,Master Decoy 1,Pacifism 1,Flowstone Shambler 1,Goblin Chariot 1,Seething Song 1,Inspirit 1,Pegasus Charger 1,Warrior's Honor 1,Aven Fisher 1,Dehydration 1,Sage Aven 1,Thieving Magpie 1,Aven Windreader 1,Sea Monster 1,Tidal Kraken 1,Blaze 4,Mountain 5,Plains 8,Island
I found blue's counters to be great, and the flyers to be enough to make games very close even against two of the top10 players in the league. But the power is just too low, whenever the chips were down I never drew anything but more f'ing land. There are also some bad cards in this setup (sea monster, flight, goblin piker, warrior's honor) but frankly there wasn't anything else that was even sort of worth playing for those colors. The other white I have would mean taking mana out of blue which due to the many UU costed cards breaks the deck completely. The only blue or red I have that isn't ass in the sideboard = Stone Rain (which is debatable as ass), Goblin Brigand (useless unless you get him early, which you wont) and Phantom whatever, and with my lack of pumping that just didn't cut it.
As I write this I realize that I should have been playing firebreathing, but like I said I'm just really rusty I dont see the cards in terms of in-game performance because this week is literally the first time I've played in years.
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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eldaec
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What we really need to do is bug schild Shockeye to implement [card] tags ;)
What exactly would the [card] tag do? [card] would turn... [card]Wind Drake[/card] into Wind DrakeIt just means you can click on a card name to get the autocard image up. The format of the link is.... http://www.wizards.com/magic/autocard.asp?name=cardnameWith spaces replaced by '[', apostrophes with '@', and commas with '%2C'. There are codes for all the punctuation marks, but those three will get you 99% of the cards - and most of the remainder are in unglued or unhinged, which doesn't really count. Apologies for not having a clue who really ran the show ;)
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"People will not assume that what they read on the internet is trustworthy or that it carries any particular assurance or accuracy" - Lord Leveson "Hyperbole is a cancer" - Lakov Sanite
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Johny Cee
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What we really need to do is bug schild Shockeye to implement [card] tags ;)
What exactly would the [card] tag do? [card] would turn... [card]Wind Drake[/card] into Wind DrakeIt just means you can click on a card name to get the autocard image up. The format of the link is.... http://www.wizards.com/magic/autocard.asp?name=cardnameWith spaces replaced by '[', apostrophes with '@', and commas with '%2C'. There are codes for all the punctuation marks, but those three will get you 99% of the cards - and most of the remainder are in unglued or unhinged, which doesn't really count. Apologies for not having a clue who really ran the show ;) Uh oh.... that sounds like a challenge! I propose a knife fight between Schild and Shockeye. In international waters where it would be legal, of course.
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schild
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I really wish I didn't like the [card] idea.
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Margalis
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Looks like I'm not going to play any games in my league this week, I'll just start next week. Probably better because my pool is a bit weak now anyway.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Shockeye
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Skinny-dippin' in a sea of Lee, I'd propose on bended knee...
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I really wish I didn't like the [card] idea.
I'll see what I can do.
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schild
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I really wish I didn't like the [card] idea.
I'll see what I can do. Not for SMF though.
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eldaec
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This is how wizards say it works (or they *said* it worked in 2002 anyway). Here is how you can use this feature on your own website: Put this in the top of your HTML page: <script language="Javascript"> function WizardsAutoCard (cardname) { windowName = "WotCWindow"; params = "toolbar=0, location=0, directories=0, status=0, menubar=0, scrollbars=0, resizable=0, width=450, height=400"; win = window.open (" http://www.wizards.com/magic/autocard.asp?name="+cardname, windowName, params); } </script> And then you can make a card link like this: <a href="javascript:WizardsAutoCard('Call of the Herd');">Call of the Herd[/url] Further experimentation shows that adding (' ') around the card name, ie... http://www.wizards.com/magic/autocard.asp?name=('Seizan, Perverter of Truth') Saves all the messing about replacing punctuation with symbols.
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« Last Edit: September 06, 2005, 07:58:41 AM by eldaec »
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"People will not assume that what they read on the internet is trustworthy or that it carries any particular assurance or accuracy" - Lord Leveson "Hyperbole is a cancer" - Lakov Sanite
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Margalis
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Ok, here is my league pool, sorted by color, and each color sorted by approximate power.
WHITE --- Aven Cloudchaser Pegasus Charger Veteran Cavalier Samite Healer Aven Flock Inspirit Foot Soldiers Holy Strength Warrior's Honor Demystify Peace of Mind Sacred Nectar
RED --- Anaba Shaman Blaze Form of the Dragon Flame Wave Flowstone Shambler Hill Giant Panic Attack Goblin Sky Raider Goblin Brigand Goblin Piker Raging Goblin Reflexes Shatter
GREEN --- Giant Growth Craw Wurm Elvish Warrior Elvish Champion Wood Elves Giant Spider King Cheetah Yavimaya Enchantress Zodiac Monkey Rampant Growth Elvish Berserker Norwood Ranger Groundskeeper Natural Spring
BLUE --- Wind Drake Aven Fisher Crafty Pathmage Sage Aven Sift Thieving Magpie Dream Prowler Horned Turtle Plagiarize Lumengrid Warden Time Ebb Fishliver Oil Reminisce Sea's Claim
BLACK --- Dark Banishing Enfeeblement Sengir Vampire Serpent Warrior Giant Cockroach Plague Beetle Razortooth Rats Unholy Strength Coercion Mind Rot Horror of Horrors Contaminated Bond Slay
ARTIFACT/LAND --- Battlefield Forge Angel's Feather Demon's Horn Dragon's Claw
So, what do I see here?
White: Has some good stuff, no real bombs though. Mahybe 7-8 cards that should make a main deck.
Red: The first 4 cards listed are all game-changers to some extent. However the playable creature count is pretty low. Anaba Shaman, Hill Giant and Flowstone Shambler are the only creatures I really want to see in a main deck.
Green: Good number of playable creatures, a landwalker, Giant growth, some accel, etc. Looks good but very mid-rangey, not a lot of real beaters.
Blue: Some decent flyers, but not deep at all. Only 5 or so cards I would want in a main deck.
Black: 2 removal spells, some fear, some swampwalk, Sengir, etc. Unfortunately enfeeblement is BB, tough to splash. Only 5 creatures total, but all playable to some extent.
Overall: The cards here are very evenly distributed among the 5 colors, which is my big problem. If I play 2 color I basically have to play green because that's the only color with enough decent creatures. Otherwise I'll be making a deck with 10-12 average creatures. Red has the most game-changing cards. Form of the Dragon, Anaba Shaman and Flame Wave can all give me a big advantage, as can blaze to a lesser extent. (Good finisher) Green works well with red with Wood Elves and Rampant growth for accel, as FOrm of the Dragon, Flame Wave and Blaze are all pricey. So, I'm thinking green/red with maybe black splash just for Dark Banishing.
With that build, I'm hoping to get Flame Wave or Form of the Dragon and win right there, or get Panic Attack and push through some creatures.
Anyone have any better ideas?
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eldaec
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I'd agree green-red is the way to go.
Anaba Shaman Flowstone Shambler Hill Giant Raging Goblin Goblin Sky Raider Goblin Piker
Blaze Form of the Dragon Flame Wave Shatter
Craw Wurm Elvish Warrior Elvish Champion Wood Elves Giant Spider King Cheetah Yavimaya Enchantress Elvish Berserker Norwood Ranger Zodiac Monkey
Rampant Growth Giant Growth
Dark banishing
8 Mountain 7 Forest 2 Swamp
I do worry that you don't have enough flyers to use form of the dragon safely until you're at around 5 life anyway (it's always iffy against red because you die to burn to the head, but you're at risk vs blue or white as well).
If you get more white creatures in boosters (and maybe a pacifism) you might be able to switch to red/white.
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Strazos
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Decided to start up in a 9th league.
White: 1 Holy Strength 1 Honor Guard 1 Infantry Veteran 1 Ivory Mask 1 Master Decoy 1 Pacifism 1 Pegasus Charger 1 Sanctum Guardian 1 Spirit Link 1 Warrior's Honor 1 Foot Soldiers 1 Gift of Estates 1 Glory Seeker 1 Mending Hands
Black: 1 Scathe Zombies 1 Bog Imp 1 Coercion 1 Fear 1 Highway Robber 1 Hollow Dogs 1 Looming Shade 1 Nekrataal 1 Raise Dead 1 Unholy Strength 1 Contaminated Bond
Blue: 1 Dehydration 1 Flight 1 Remove Soul 1 Sea Monster 1 Storm Crow 1 Tidal Kraken 1 Aven Fisher 1 Aven Windreader 1 Withering Gaze 1 Sage Aven 1 Fugitive Wizard 1 Lumengrid Warden 1 Tidings
Red: 1 Volcanic Hammer 1 Firebreathing 1 Flowstone Shambler 1 Goblin Chariot 1 Mana Clash 1 Pyroclasm 1 Rogue Kavu 1 Shatter 1 Stone Rain 1 Sudden Impact 1 Demolish 1 Goblin Piker 1 Goblin Brigand 1 Seething Song
Green: 1 Craw Wurm 1 Grizzly Bears 1 Groundskeeper 1 Kavu Climber 1 Llanowar Elves 1 Reclaim 1 Rootwalla 1 Scaled Wurm 1 Trained Armodon 1 Web 1 Wood Elves 1 Elvish Warrior 1 Seedborn Muse
Colorless: 1 Bottle Gnomes 1 Coat of Arms 1 Icy Manipulator 1 Rod of Ruin 1 Urza's Tower
Unlike the 8th leagues I played in, I can see some nice cards in here. I really want to go White/Red, but there's not enough beef in there to finish someone. White/Green also seems viable.
Yay for 9th.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Strazos
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The first deck I came up with. I haven't tried it yet.
9 Forest 1 Holy Strength 9 Plains 1 Bottle Gnomes 1 Coat of Arms 1 Craw Wurm 1 Grizzly Bears 1 Honor Guard 1 Icy Manipulator 1 Infantry Veteran 1 Ivory Mask 1 Kavu Climber 1 Llanowar Elves 1 Master Decoy 1 Pacifism 1 Pegasus Charger 1 Reclaim 1 Rod of Ruin 1 Rootwalla 1 Sanctum Guardian 1 Scaled Wurm 1 Spirit Link 1 Trained Armodon 1 Warrior's Honor 1 Web 1 Wood Elves 1 Foot Soldiers 1 Gift of Estates 1 Elvish Warrior 1 Glory Seeker 1 Seedborn Muse 1 Mending Hands
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Margalis
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Strazos look for me tonight around 10 EST if you want to test your league deck against mine.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Johny Cee
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It's 9:30 now, and I'm on.
We get a booster tonight at 10:41 as well.
Right now, my deck looks like this:
White--
Serra's Embrace Spirit Link Pacifism Glory Seeker Infantry Veteran Marble Titan <-----*** Master Decoy <----*** Pegasus Charger Venerable Monk
Blue--
Counsel of the Soratami Sleight of Hand Tidings <----*** Remove Soul Archivist <---*** Aven Windreader Sea Monster STORM CROW (Bah at Turtle)
Black--
Enfeeblement Bog Imp Nekrataal <----*** Festering Goblin (this guy kicks ass) Hollow Dogs Highway Robber
Other--
Rod of Ruin Adarkar Waste Underground River
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My problem is all 5 of my colors are "pretty good" but not deep enough to go two colors. Going 3 colors throws out quite a bit of my stuff (consume spirit, firebreathing, Sandstone Warrior). Hopefully a booster will help fix this.
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Margalis
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Release leagues are only 1 week long! (Slaps self in head a dozen times)
I went 0-0-0...nice job genius!
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Strazos
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Pwned by WotC!
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Margalis
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Sometimes these leagues really piss me off.
I have a deck with 2 master decoys, a pacifism and a volcanic hammer. In the last 6 rounds combined I maybe drew a total of 2 of these. Meanwhile my opponents are pulling out Hypnotic Spectres, Loxodon Warhammers, and all sorts of other miracle draws.
I played one guy who had literally 2 good cards in his deck, Ballista Squad and Gluttonous Zombie. In both rounds he pulls out both of those in the first 5 turns. He never played any other card that was even halfway decent or any sort of real threat. Meanwhile I'm sitting there hoping to draw Master Decoy, Pacifism or Hammer...nope. And of course Holy Strength, which is pure filler, I draw basically every round. Argh.
It's very frustrating to lose against 1 trick decks when you have plenty of answers and just get awful draws. (Including one game where I mulliganned down from 1 land to 1 land to 0 to 0 to 0 and eventually ended up with a hand of 1 forest and 1 wood elf)
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Hoax
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I have to say the shuffler is an evil piece of shit. I would point out specific examples of its bastardry but I'm sure everyone has experienced the same things.
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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Shockeye
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Here is my card pool:
Artifact: 1 Aladdin's Ring 1 Phyrexian Hulk
Land: 1 Urza's Mine
Black: 1 Bog Wraith 1 Coercion 1 Consume Spirit 1 Contaminated Bond 1 Dark Banishing 1 Enfeeblement 1 Fear 1 Giant Cockroach 1 Hollow Dogs 1 Looming Shade 1 Mind Rot 1 Ravenous Rats 1 Soul Feast
Blue: 1 Aven Windreader 1 Boomerang 1 Crafty Pathmage 1 Evacuation 1 Fishliver Oil 1 Flight 1 Horned Turtle 1 Levitation 1 Lumengrid Warden 1 Mana Leak 1 Remove Soul 1 Sage Aven 1 Sift 1 Thought Courier
Green: 1 Anaconda 1 Craw Wurm 1 Creeping Mold 1 Elvish Berserker 1 Giant Growth 1 Giant Spider 1 Llanowar Elves 1 Naturalize 1 Reclaim 1 Rootwalla 1 Stream of Life 1 Verduran Enchantress 1 Wood Elves 1 Zodiac Monkey
Red: 1 Balduvian Barbarians 1 Firebreathing 1 Flowstone Shambler 1 Goblin Piker 1 Hill Giant 1 Orcish Artillery 1 Panic Attack 1 Raging Goblin 1 Seething Song 1 Shatter 1 Volcanic Hammer 1 Whip Sergeant
White: 1 Circle of Protection: Red 1 Demystify 1 Foot Soldiers 1 Mending Hands 1 Pacifism 1 Pegasus Charger 1 Samite Healer 1 Sanctum Guardian 1 Serra's Blessing 1 Suntail Hawk 1 Veteran Cavalier 1 Warrior's Honor 1 Weathered Wayfarer 1 Wildfire
Here is my first deck:
Artifact: 1 Phyrexian Hulk
Land: 8 Forest 7 Island 1 Urza's Mine
Blue: 1 Boomerang 1 Evacuation 1 Flight 1 Horned Turtle 1 Levitation 1 Lumengrid Warden 1 Mana Leak 1 Remove Soul 1 Sage Aven 1 Sift 1 Thought Courier
Green:
1 Anaconda 1 Craw Wurm 1 Creeping Mold 1 Elvish Berserker 1 Giant Growth 1 Giant Spider 1 Llanowar Elves 1 Naturalize 1 Reclaim 1 Rootwalla 1 Stream of Life 1 Verduran Enchantress
You may now mock me.
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Strazos
Greetings from the Slave Coast
Posts: 15542
The World's Worst Game: Curry or Covid
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Not sure why you're playing the Urza piece. Also, I would have thrown in the Ring.
Also, keep Black in mind, you have a decent amount of removal in it.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Shockeye
Staff Emeritus
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Skinny-dippin' in a sea of Lee, I'd propose on bended knee...
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Playing the Urza because I get sick of looking at normal boring lands.
Also, the ring costs too much, I don't see a reason to put it in there.
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Strazos
Greetings from the Slave Coast
Posts: 15542
The World's Worst Game: Curry or Covid
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If the game gets to the point where you can actually Use the ring, it can swing it for you quite quickly.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Shockeye
Staff Emeritus
Posts: 6668
Skinny-dippin' in a sea of Lee, I'd propose on bended knee...
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If the game gets to the point where you can actually Use the ring, it can swing it for you quite quickly.
And if I draw the card at the start then it's useless for a long time. I'd rather replace it with something else that can be a use to me sooner.
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