War

[Murgos]

Sadly for them, however, what actually happened was that we camped them into their bubbled, incapped POSes while we repped our towers, and killed the time by using the passwords to their towers (we had them for every hostile alliance except perhaps one... the Mittanni sends his regards) to bump out their ships and steal their unanchored pos mods.

You missed the best part:

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_battle.php?start_time=2009-03-19%2022:19:00&end_time=2009-03-19%2022:34:00&system=49-U6U

Apparently PL jumped three Titans inside a Kenny POS and let loose

[Sir T]

Some more details from a guy that alarmclocked.

You see once AAA realised they had an alarmclock on their hands they all logged off and went to bed. Kenny and barbie suddenly could not find the will to leave the pos shields, so PL as a final present helped them leave the shield and gave them a very bright gift. (see the post above)

This was only the beginning. While AAA were logging on at 04:00, finding themselves in an rapecaged, incapped, and camped tower and logging off within 10 minutes, Kenny and barbie were logging in on another POS.  We had the password (It was "sheep" which was a perfect password for the pos ment as a staging point for their "allies") so we showed them how much fun pos bowling was, with 4 titans and 30 carriers providing the bumps. Despite BOB constantly saying all those months ago that it was perfectly fine and anyone with PVP skill would be able to deal with it, the strange result was a total and utter massacre. PL were kind enough not to doomsday this time.

That was mean.  But predictability is always a flaw.

--Dave

To be honest when I saw the timer I was seriously wondering did we have Nostradamus working for us. Those timers were awe insiring.

[nizar]

Had several good back and forths in 49- today so far and finally being told to bump a capitals was awesome  and so was getting utterly wiped out of my ECM ship by a doomsday.  Was a great day to take off, watch basketball, and play Eve.  Just not sure about the political situation but the war so far has been so worth the money. 

[Endie]

I suspect that the battle for 49- might, at this very moment, be moving towards a conclusion.

[Teleku]

So, back to Detroid it is then?

[Endie]

So, back to Detroid it is then?

I don't think so.  Not unless we're off to help RA and xXdDeathXx.

http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/331354

The net result of the Mercenary Coalition's Big Push so far has been to end up with less towers than they started with.

Edit: to make it clear, that POS is just a representative sample.  We've killed three.  In euro TZ.

[palmer_eldritch]

Had several good back and forths in 49- today so far and finally being told to bump a capitals was awesome  and so was getting utterly wiped out of my ECM ship by a doomsday.  Was a great day to take off, watch basketball, and play Eve.  Just not sure about the political situation but the war so far has been so worth the money. 

I always know I've been in a good fight when I get zapped by a Pandemic Legion doomsday.

[Endie]

I think the fourth Kenny POS might be in a spot of trouble:

http://echelon.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/08/0858c16bf0d5b9dfc425e1e21904b0cb22abbe9e.jpg

Apologies if that doesn't work for non-GF members.  I can never remember which host that is the case for.  It shows a very large dread fleet filling the screen from 2000km away, waiting menacingly outside a rather dwarfed-looking POS which is about to come out of reinforced (or someone rehost it vOv).

I think that puts the tower count for the system at something like 29 friendly, 20 hostile.  Not a good return for all that kiting and alarm-clocking, though. 

[Sir T]

rehosted

[Sparky]

Epic fight tonight.  Shit loads of caps, more support and an assload of bad guys slugging it out for over an hour.  After a week of timezone stare downs it was a release to finally kick each other firmly in the nads.  My balls are no longer blue.

By the way do you have that screenshot any bigger?

edit: Thanks I got it now.  Awesome screenie.

[MahrinSkel]

It works, you just have to reload it after you get the "Forbidden" error.  Yeah, this may be it for GKC morale, to get beaten like a drum for so long waiting for allied backup, get them, and get stopped cold while PB gets cut off, there's no way to spin that.

--Dave

[Sir T]

[Fordel]

Ohh poor Minmatar dreads :(

[Endie]

Yeah, this may be it for GKC morale, to get beaten like a drum for so long waiting for allied backup, get them, and get stopped cold while PB gets cut off, there's no way to spin that.

I don't know if they have the sense to change targets yet.  McAAA has a CTA tomorrow after DT in 49-, anyway, which is presumably to prove that they are not the sort of unreliable allies who will leave your ass alone in a critical, strategic system at a crucial moment because their sov in a system they never fought for and have only held for a few days is at risk at the other end of their space.

[amiable]

 Yeah, this may be it for GKC morale, to get beaten like a drum for so long waiting for allied backup, get them, and get stopped cold while PB gets cut off, there's no way to spin that.

--Dave

I don't know, they are pretty delusional.  I keep seeing the argument that losing all their territory was "part of the plan."

[Fordel]

Dance puppets, dance! 


Are they still actually doing stuff, or just rambling?

[Pax]

rehosted

I see 7 wolves~

In this battle, miscalculating the bloodlust of a fleet that had stared at bubbles for a month, backfires, wrecking for epic damage.

[Simond]

http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/331398
One of these things is not like the others.... 

[Kovacs]

Amazingly after kiting our poses all day they got timers... in deep goon prime tonight. Who knew?

What's "kiting out pos's" ?

[Jayce]

Amazingly after kiting our poses all day they got timers... in deep goon prime tonight. Who knew?

What's "kiting out pos's" ?

When a tower is below 50% you can't add or remove strontium, but it's not reinforced until 25%. So they shoot it below 50%, let it regen, shoot it again.  This effectively moves the window the defender has chosen with their stront timing.  It's still a guessing game, though, because the attacker doesn't know how much stront the defender used until it actually hits reinforced.

If you're unfamiliar with the terms, see the second definition here: http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=9832.msg293177#msg293177

[Endie]

AAA's weekend didn't get any better today.  They just lost a fight for one of their dyspro moons with Minor Threat, and with it a lot of battleships and a bunch of caps.

http://www.exceedkillboard.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=2947527 - the usual cautionary words about the incompleteness of killboards from a single participant, but AAA's is an awful board so it'll have to be Exceed's.

[Phildo]

AAA did a good job of bringing in great PvP corps like Rionnag Alba!  They're making tons of isk for the alliance by suicide ganking in Madirmilire as we speak!

Really though, I'm glad to see Minor Threat making an impact on things.

[Endie]

Goonfleet + a some US-timezone allies kited a couple more towers in 49- into US timers last night.  49- is, for the moment at least, looks pretty safe.  We have, of course, one more weekend before sov three, but so long as there are quite so many hostile dreads logged off in there then that doesn't make a huge difference for now.

In other news, Coven, SE etc are getting a bit miffed at Kenny and Barbie on the Russian COAD forums:

There were a couple good fights but i am completely dissapointed with the attitude of the GBC. If i were to blame anyone for the fall of bob and i'm not talking here about disbanding the alliance but that with hundreds of their own poses kenny did not defend itself. I wasn't present at yesterdays fight but i took a peak at local a couple times and GS&co. had majority. What was GBC doing? Useful stuff like usual: http://kb.bu-fu.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=25393.
GBC participation from yesterday:
(1) R.U.R. out of 202
(1) Confederation of Independent Corporations out of 153
(2) BeachBoys out of 202
(2) INTERDICTION out of 261
(3) HUN Reloaded out of 105
(3) T o r m e n t u m out of 291
(3) Blade. out of 461
(5) Frontal Impact out of 487
(8) Skunk-Works out of 707

how about GBC starts doing things themselves rather then waiting for -a-/sw to pull them out of the crap they got themselves into? Ah, but in a moment we will find out that bufu killed 5 ceptors at the ass end of delve GF GF GJ keep going GF

Dear GKC pilots allow me to enlighten you - noone from bob will make a CTA for you because everyone knows you're worth shit. Your 'permission' for skirmish warfare or however you call it also comes from the fact that you're... . Your place is at best in lowsec, you have no idea what 0.0 warfare means, you have no resources for it and i have no idea why are you shitting up this forum with 'battle reports' of fights that happens by the hundreds in delve/querious and excite nobody, we all know its war so you can get a couple nice kills and dumb losses, oh and i have to dissapoint you, c0ven knows your orders long before you do  And dont worry about defending Esoteria we will fuck shit up as usual and if we get hit hard we will buy new bs and fuck shit up again!

i'm just saying what i think as a grunt coven pilot, your anger changes nothing

you suck, thats all

We'll see what happens later because not just me in Stainwagon is pissed off we are helping such losers.

I wouldnt blame anyone. Bufu has their own goals and how they want to fight and if they do this effectively, good for them. I dont think the problem lies in wether GKC comes to our (c0ven's) CTA, rather then Kenzoku as a whole considers itself defeated and they dont have the will to fight. Stainwagon and AAA came to 49- to hold the corpse up so it won't collapse but we wont do it forever if they won't be able to mobilize themselves

[Pax]

In other news, Coven, SE etc are getting a bit miffed at Kenny and Barbie on the Russian polish COAD forums:

It's funny, when reading polish forums they seem to be the only ones capable of making a somewhat competent judgement on the current situation. They don't seem to share Kenny's delusions concerning Delve, though one could tell, a similar obsession is directed towards Esoteria.

[Sir T]

It should be remembered reading those comments that these are the same pilots that let Kenny etc rot in PR- for a month.

That bieng said, if Kenny were not willing to do more than undock a HAC gang after 4 days to defend their regions (a HAC gang that mysteriously got lost and wound up in Syndicate or Cloud Ring a lot of the time) and being the second largest alliance in the game + pets they still could not scrape up a couple of hundred pilots to bust the PR- camp, why the hell should stain etc come along to bail them out?

In any case the real thing is that Minor Threat are jacking moons in Estoria and Stain, which means the killer rep of -A- and stainwagon is broken enough for people to start nipping at their flanks. That's a bad situation for them as it means they cannot now throw everything at Querious without fear and trusting in their reputation to keep them away. Once pirate and opportunity people start attacking you it means your rep is gone and your freedom to maneuver is badly curtailed.

Which means even if -A- gave a shit about Kenny, they are a lot less likely to bother at this stage.

[/Analysis]

{edit} -A- have found a partial solution and are off reinforcing their own towers to get good timers today.

[Dallan]

{edit} -A- have found a partial solution and are off reinforcing their own towers to get good timers today.

Wait, their own towers in 49-, or in Tenerifis, or in Stain/Eso?

(poor buggers, now they get the fun of being the most-spread out territorial alliance in the game. Frankly, they're welcome to it.)

[Slayerik]

AAA did a good job of bringing in great PvP corps like Rionnag Alba!  They're making tons of isk for the alliance by suicide ganking in Madirmilire as we speak!

Really though, I'm glad to see Minor Threat making an impact on things.

To be fair, i've flown alongside some good RionAl pilots. Not sure whats left of them but they used to be able to scrap.

[Phildo]

 Not suggesting that they're bad pilots, just pointing out that their alliance could use their help right now and they're playing in empire.

[Sir T]

{edit} -A- have found a partial solution and are off reinforcing their own towers to get good timers today.

Wait, their own towers in 49-, or in Tenerifis, or in Stain/Eso?

(poor buggers, now they get the fun of being the most-spread out territorial alliance in the game. Frankly, they're welcome to it.)

Not sure to be honest but it wasn't 49-


In war news Kenny has shown how proud of their new name and how hilarious they found it... they have ditched it to found a new alliance

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Band_of_Brothers_Reloaded/corporations

The are now Band of Brothers Reloaded { .BOB. }

Ok, they have changed from a stupid name to a rediculous one.

I wonder how they kept sov 3 in their 9 remaining systems.

Anyway now that they are BOB again this will inspire their pilots AND THEY WILLSWEEP ALL BEFORE THEM!!! like a steamroller.

 

[eldaec]

Wow. I actually thought KenZoku was a much cooler name than Bob.

[Nerf]

How is it they can have that name when there is already a Band of Brothers corporation.  I can't imagine that Goonfleet Reloaded or Goonswarm Reloaded would be allowed by some random corp or alliance.

[Thrawn]

How is it they can have that name when there is already a Band of Brothers corporation.  I can't imagine that Goonfleet Reloaded or Goonswarm Reloaded would be allowed by some random corp or alliance.

The question being raised more often is how did they get their name changed without losing sov?

[eldaec]

How is it they can have that name when there is already a Band of Brothers corporation.  I can't imagine that Goonfleet Reloaded or Goonswarm Reloaded would be allowed by some random corp or alliance.

If you do a search on corp names, it looks like there are a fair number of knock off corps and alliances out there already, this is just another to add to the crowd.

[Jayce]

Dianabolic made a pretty big stink about how the name isn't important, as they didn't want that name anyway when they formed it.  Apparently Cookies, Cake, ? and Pie (CCCP) was disallowed by CCP.

I guess they wanted it more than Dianabolic knew or was letting on. (you don't say)

[trevorreznik]

How is it they can have that name when there is already a Band of Brothers corporation.  I can't imagine that Goonfleet Reloaded or Goonswarm Reloaded would be allowed by some random corp or alliance.

The question being raised more often is how did they get their name changed without losing sov?

My guess is the corps running towers that are holding sov in those systems stayed in Kenzoku for now. 

I've barely been playing-do you have any more intel on the minor threat stuff ?  -A-'s kb is great, except when it flips out like it did for that fight and puts  hostiles on the wrong side and just gets super confusing :( 

In other news, it looks like XdX wants to pos spam up tenefiris, I think it's to keep -a- distracted because I can't imagine actually wanting that space.