Dollhouse

[Samwise]

I thought this episode was really for some reason.  I think it's that the novelty of the premise (what there was of it) has completely worn off and now the bad acting is really shining through.

[DLRiley]

I want my terminators back.

[Bunk]

I liked the sub plot between Amy Acker and the nerd. Of course, she then promptly drives away from the show.

[Samwise]

I liked the sub plot between Amy Acker and the nerd. Of course, she then promptly drives away from the show.

Yeah, that was the best part of the episode.  And it still felt ham-handed.  OMG THE FAKE PERSONALITIES ARE PEOPLE!

[caladein]

I realized this during the first season and it's still true now: the more Dushku an episode contains, the more I dislike it.

So... this past episode was kinda hard to get through.  Seeing Miracle Laurie (Mellie/November) again was nice though.

[Threash]

I realized this during the first season and it's still true now: the more Dushku an episode contains, the more I dislike it.

That's why the unaired episode is the best in the series.  She's just not a good enough actress to carry a show based entirely around the main character being a good actress.  I'm only still watching because i think Topher is hilarious and as an "atta boy" to FOX for not canceling it.

[schild]

I don't know why you would want to give Fox any credit for not canceling this and canceling Terminator. It seems incredibly stupid.

I'm still watching this show just so whenever anyone brings it up I can tell them to stop talking and never talk about TV again.

Whedon still sucks major, major ass.

[JWIV]

About god damn time.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3ibd4c93af8a3194fa8f32bc3b11c6126a

"Dollhouse" is closing its doors at Fox.

The network has canceled Joss Whedon's cult fave, which in May beat the odds with a second-season pickup despite low ratings.

[schild]

By beat the odds, they mean "beat Terminator" at The Cancellation Wheel.

A Fox executive was overheard saying "The Cancellation Wheel" was not their greatest idea.

[schild]

Watching Summer Glau torture Eliza Dushku is Whedon being way too fucking self-aware for his own good.

[Bunk]

It was over the top, but I really enjoyed Glau's character in that. I don't think I'd want to see her play a normal person though, it would just come off wrong.

[stray]

I'm surprised some of you are still watching this. I thought I'd be one of the few who'd give it a chance.

[Prospero]

I generally like the show. It may not be the best thing ever, but I like the fact most of the stories trend towards dark and fucked up. I'm sad it is going away, but hopefully they'll wrap it all up cleanly.

[EWSpider]

I felt like the show was going completely south the last few episodes, but I found this last episode highly entertaining and next week's episode looks promising.  The promo was pretty funny with Alpha getting up from the "treatment" chair with a completely psycho look on his face and asking (Echo I assume):  "Wanna snuggle?"

[schild]

I'm surprised some of you are still watching this. I thought I'd be one of the few who'd give it a chance.

Most stuff is already on hiatus (at least that's what my TV Torrents account says). And this was the only thing that got updated that I hadn't already seen. Also, I watch almost everything through til the end. No matter how much I hate the folks involved.

[Bunk]

For me it was a case of auto pvr'ing. Hit List and, oh! something new to watch.

[Xanthippe]

The writing just stunk - my husband asked me if Joss Whedon is still involved.  Then we watched the second hour, which held our interest but he's right.  Maybe "stunk" is even putting it too mildly.

My Tivo's practically empty, aside from a cooking show and my kids' stuff.

[Riggswolfe]

It's not Whedon's best. (insert sandy vagina comment from Schild here) It does have some good moment. Oddly, the character I started off disliking the most grew to be the character I kept coming back for and liking. That being the socipathic nerdy computer guy. I'm drawing a blank on his name tonight (Topher?) but he is a highly entertaining character.

[schild]

Oddly, the character I started off disliking the most grew to be the character I kept coming back for and liking. That being the socipathic nerdy computer guy. I'm drawing a blank on his name tonight (Topher?) but he is a highly entertaining character.

If you started off disliking the only likable member of the cast, I'm not entirely sure I'm the one with the sandy vagina - ye who posts on gaming forum.

[Riggswolfe]

Oddly, the character I started off disliking the most grew to be the character I kept coming back for and liking. That being the socipathic nerdy computer guy. I'm drawing a blank on his name tonight (Topher?) but he is a highly entertaining character.

If you started off disliking the only likable member of the cast, I'm not entirely sure I'm the one with the sandy vagina - ye who posts on gaming forum.

I've never claimed not to have a sandy vagina about some things. For instance, my vagina is sand paper when it comes to shakey cam and the last two Bourne movies abortions. I always appreciated the actor but the character was portrayed as a dick. However, he started to become more nuanced overtime and he started to grow on me. Whether this was the writing or the actor I'll leave up to others to decide. I think it was a bit of both.

[Lianka]

Topher's grown on me, too, but I am getting the biggest kick out of Victor.  While all the she-actors are doing versions of themselves doing X Y and Z, he manages to totally transform himself.

I particularly liked him as Topher, talking to Topher.   :D   And him as Kiki was   

[Riggswolfe]

I enjoy Victor and his relationship with the kind of weird looking oriental doll, Sierra I think?

[Bunk]

*awaiting pointy knee comment from Schild regarding Sierra*

[schild]

Why would I make fun of her knees? She was downright ugly and I WOULD kick her out of bed.

[Tannhauser]

Had this on in the background last night while I played LOTRO.  I realized that I don't like a single character.  And I think it's written that way.  Isn't that Writing 101?
Make a sympathetic protagonist?  But I have to admit this is A pretty dark and original premise.  It's just not well done.  Heck, even Helo is a bad guy.  Helo!  

The only bright spot was Wash as Alpha.   His evil was fun and deadly.  The best kind.  

Glad to see more Firefly folks getting work.  Haven't seen the black female soldier (Zoe?) on TV, but thank's to her hubby she's got Matrix money.

/edit grammar

[Merusk]

Gina Torres (Zoe) has a healthy acting career of her own.  She's a female character actor, not many big parts but plenty of work.  If you haven't seen her, it's because you didn't notice or aren't watching what she does.  I wouldn't feel sorry for her unless you also feel sorry for William H. Macy and Steve Buscemi.

[HaemishM]

Had this on in the background last night while I played LOTRO.  I realized that I don't like a single character.  And I think it's written that way.  Isn't that Writing 101?
Make a sympathetic protagonist?

No, a writer doesn't HAVE to make a sympathetic protagonist. But they do have to make an interesting one. And none of the Dollhouse characters were all that interesting to me.

[Riggswolfe]

These last few episodes have been really entertaining. Victor as Topher was a hoot and it was nice to see Summer Glau actually smile and I loved Topher's reaction to her. The only part of the last few episodes that felt "off" was the British chick's face-heel turn. I really thought they were moving towards something with the L.A. Dollhouse staff turning on the evil company as a group and were going to end the series with a sort of "the Rebellion has started" kind of vibe or something.

[Xanthippe]

Gina Torres (Zoe) has a healthy acting career of her own.  She's a female character actor, not many big parts but plenty of work.  If you haven't seen her, it's because you didn't notice or aren't watching what she does.  I wouldn't feel sorry for her unless you also feel sorry for William H. Macy and Steve Buscemi.

She's awesome.  I love watching her, the same way I loved watching Jeri Ryan (7 of 9) - amazing looking women, both of them.

Edited to add:  I loved the Victor as Topher episode.  The guy who plays Victor is really good at playing Topher!  Hilarious.

I totally don't get the thing with Adelle - is this a plot misdirection or a twist or what? 

Despite the sometimes unbelievably corny dumb dialog, I am getting a kick out of watching still.

[schild]

Jeri Ryan is someone I clump in with chicks who strike me as white trash. List also includes Tori Spelling, Ali Larter, and Jaime Pressly.

There's just something about them that screams trash. Can't be helped.

[Xanthippe]

Jeri Ryan is someone I clump in with chicks who strike me as white trash. List also includes Tori Spelling, Ali Larter, and Jaime Pressly.

There's just something about them that screams trash. Can't be helped.

Oh you are so off on that!

Tori Spelling yes, and I don't know who the rest of those are, but Jeri Ryan?  No way!

[schild]

Way.

Sorry.

[Riggswolfe]

Jeri Ryan is someone I clump in with chicks who strike me as white trash. List also includes Tori Spelling, Ali Larter, and Jaime Pressly.

There's just something about them that screams trash. Can't be helped.

The interesting thing about Jaime Pressly is that she's actually really funny. I first saw her in some canceled TV show where she played a total bitch but since then I've seen her do alot of comedy stuff and she has great timing.

[Xanthippe]

The last episode of Dollhouse was perhaps the best so far.

[Bunk]

It's obvious that knowing you only have x episodes left makes it easier to write a compelling few episodes to wrap everything up. That last episode had the most ridiculous plot twist ever, but I still enjoyed it. I've enjoyed this entire run of episodes since the show was officially cancelled, mainly becuase they finally dropped the "story of the week" crap, and focused on one solid plotline.