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Title: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: bhodi on August 28, 2012, 08:27:41 AM
Autoloot, first checkbox in the options menu. I was level 15 before I even saw it.

Click the gear in the inventory to send all materials to the bank.

Salvage all trophies for leather/cloth, don't sell them. It's the only major way of getting the crafting materials.

Always run around with gathering tools, you can always sell them on the AH if you don't need them.

Sharkmaw Caverns entrance in The Spar is behind the windmill. Look for a hidden path near some bales. (No idea how to get to the two vistas above the trader's forum yet)

If are a tailor you want to make your own bags, and have money, you can add a rune of holding (vendor bought) to make the bag bigger than the default 8 size. Base rune is 4 silver and req's 75 tailoring.

Buy higher level salvage kits as soon as you can afford them, especially if you're a crafter.

Rasix edit: Sorry, the "Quck" thing was bothering me.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Zetor on August 28, 2012, 08:41:57 AM
'Send all collectibles to bank' also sends minipets to the bank, which may be a problem if you have deluxe or HOM minipets you want to keep on your character. Another annoyance is when you keep alternate weapons / consumables in a special bag in your inventory, and the "compact inventory" button keeps mixing that gear up with the random vendor junk you've collected.

The solution - ghost bags! Stuff you put in a ghost bag doesn't get auto-sold to vendors, auto-sent to the bank when you press the send-all button, and doesn't get rearranged when you hit 'compact'. Tailors can discover them by combining jute and glittering dust on the craft screen - not sure about the other armorcrafting professions, but they have equivalents (like the 'safe box'). They have the same capacity as a bag of the same tier (for jute, that's 8 slots).


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Lantyssa on August 28, 2012, 08:42:46 AM
Sharkmaw Caverns entrance in The Spar is behind the windmill. Look for a hidden path near some bales. (No idea how to get to the two vistas above the trader's forum yet)
Neither is difficult, the paths just aren't immediately obvious.

Beware of pirates.  Yarr!


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: tazelbain on August 28, 2012, 08:48:05 AM
Eat Food
mine/chop/gather everything
If a npc is shouting that they need help, talk to them.  They will usually send you to a DE.
Listen to npcs after an event to see if there is another in a chain.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: kildorn on August 28, 2012, 09:08:24 AM
Eat Food
mine/chop/gather everything
If a npc is shouting that they need help, talk to them.  They will usually send you to a DE.
Listen to npcs after an event to see if there is another in a chain.

Bolded is very important later in life. Right now the DEs will probably be done by the time you get to them, but in a lower population zone it will let you know which DEs are up at any point.

Always, ALWAYS make sure your spec has condition removal in it somewhere, or a stun break. Dungeons will murder you if you do not bring them.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: 01101010 on August 28, 2012, 09:19:34 AM
Upgrade your gathering tools as you advance into the high tiered zones. Your copper tools will still work, but will only give you ruined goods. So the second zone, you should be using Iron tools to get your stuff, and so on.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Tmon on August 28, 2012, 09:22:23 AM
Undiscovered Points of Interest tend to blend into the background, especially if they are in buildings or on a hill.  If you are having trouble finding a POI on an otherwise complete map you can make it more obvious by pulling up the map hitting the eye icon on the lower left and then clicking the show map completion check box on and off repeatedly, this tends to highlight those unfilled POIs.  

When you get put in an overflow server all the resource nodes will be available for harvest, this comes in handy if you have already mined the one Rich ore that spawns in the zone or havested the cooking resource farm.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Arinon on August 28, 2012, 09:23:05 AM
Most of the exp needed to level crafting skills comes from the Discovery panel, not recipes you are granted access to normally.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: KallDrexx on August 28, 2012, 09:35:56 AM
So apparently higher level gathering tools aren't a waste on low leveler level gathering nodes.  Apparently if it's above the level of the node (e.g. using steel or iron on a copper node) you get more yield and higher % of rares.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: murdoc on August 28, 2012, 09:46:57 AM
So apparently higher level gathering tools aren't a waste on low leveler level gathering nodes.  Apparently if it's above the level of the node (e.g. using steel or iron on a copper node) you get more yield and higher % of rares.

If this is true, it's very nice to know.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Chimpy on August 28, 2012, 10:31:47 AM
Max stack in the crafting materials bank thing is 250. After that you cannot send anything off to la la land with the gear (had this happen with Copper last night).



Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 28, 2012, 10:33:52 AM
I can give that extra copper a good home  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: schild on August 28, 2012, 10:34:38 AM
How much better are the actual higher level salvage kits?


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Drubear on August 28, 2012, 10:38:02 AM
Max stack in the crafting materials bank thing is 250. After that you cannot send anything off to la la land with the gear (had this happen with Copper last night).

I think that's a design/implementation limit. The "crafting materials bank" seems to have hardcoded slots for the materials: so you don't put 25 Copper ore in CraftMatBank_Slot#2 (like you do in your backpack), you put 25 in CraftMatBank_CopperOre. The mats have ghost images in the slots in the bank.

What I think this means is pretty slick: if you put an item in the bank like that, you are in reality destroying the object from the item database and reducing it to a number on/in your bank, taking up way less space in the item database. They are banking (sic) on people mostly keeping their craft mats in the bank to keep the item database under control. (Or at least that part of it.)


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: KallDrexx on August 28, 2012, 11:34:10 AM
How much better are the actual higher level salvage kits?

I keep reading back and forth.  Some people think it's better, some think they are a waste of money. 


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on August 28, 2012, 11:36:37 AM
I've yet to keep a rune with the 20% chance kit, and I've salvaged enough items for it to be vanishingly unlikely that this should have happened (like well over 100). So, I think they may not be working as advertised.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: kildorn on August 28, 2012, 11:41:31 AM
The middle kits are useless. Either you really want the rune or you just want the mats imo.

You shouldn't really be caring about runes until 65+ though, since it's not worth the money for the nice kits until you actually want to keep the rune for a while.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Amaron on August 28, 2012, 12:33:24 PM
The rare mats are really valuable for raising skill though.  I think the rare mat salvage is broken though.  I don't think I've ever seen it happen in 300 salvages or whatever in fact.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on August 28, 2012, 12:39:55 PM
Yeah same here. Guessing a bug. Maybe the next client patch that kicks me out of RVR 5 minutes after I make it through the queue will fix it.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on August 28, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
I've pulled out 2-3 pebbles with the blue kits.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: kildorn on August 28, 2012, 01:43:03 PM
The blue kits are the expensive ones. I think we're talking about Basic kits, which have a listed 20% recovery rate. And does not recover at 20% at all.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on August 28, 2012, 01:43:29 PM
Yeah.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Spiff on August 28, 2012, 01:47:30 PM
Above every skill is a little arrow that opens up into a mini skill panel when clicked, allows you to switch around skills on the fly between combat.
On my engineer especially I've been noticing how situational some skills can be (always nice to have your flamethrower out, which btw is awesome, and run into a flame elemental  :oh_i_see:) and since I only have 3 atm, switching can make all the difference.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: kildorn on August 28, 2012, 01:49:49 PM
I actually carry a third set of weapons in my pack in case of boss failures. It's worth swapping out from the skills and weapons you normally roll with if you run into a wall.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Tmon on August 28, 2012, 03:10:53 PM
I keep a full set of all the weapons I can use in one of my bags just because I like to try different things while I'm out in the world and it does come in handy to have a choice when you hit the aforementioned wall.  My default as a warrior is an axe and mace with sword and warhorn (for the run buff) in the second slot.  so far (level 23ish) it seems to work fairly well in PVE.  For WvW I keep my bow and active and use the sword horn combofor running around.  I have 3 8 slot bags a 5 I got from some encounter and the backpack and so far haven't had any space problems.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Furiously on August 28, 2012, 03:24:20 PM
/wiki "topic"

Takes you to the wiki page.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: KallDrexx on August 28, 2012, 03:47:53 PM
The red bars underneath your skills denote that your target is too far away for that skill.  I only just found this out.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: bhodi on August 28, 2012, 04:09:11 PM
Artificiers can make stuff out of some food. Carrots and Lettuce especially, so make sure you mouse over odd ingredients.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ard on August 28, 2012, 06:05:38 PM
Some gems are also used by them.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: ezrast on August 28, 2012, 09:36:28 PM
Pressing backslash lets you set up your own chat tabs.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on August 28, 2012, 11:42:58 PM
I wish I knew how many names were taken, jesus christ 30min straight and I can't find a free one.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Kageru on August 28, 2012, 11:44:44 PM

You can have spaces and surnames which helps a bit, but since names are game global... yeah, going to be a fair bit of competition.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Gorky on August 29, 2012, 01:57:31 AM
Here's a possible solution to those facing frequent login problems due to error 42.*:

make a shortcut for the gw2.exe and add the /clientport 80 switch to it, so if you open the shortcut properties, it should say

"gw2.exe" /clientport 80 (the switch needs to be outside the " ")

Fixed my problem permanently, can login on the first try everytime.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Amaron on August 29, 2012, 05:48:00 AM
I've pulled out 2-3 pebbles with the blue kits.

Gem stones and runes are upgrades.  Rares are stuff like tiny fang, vial of blood etc.  I've gotten upgrades with the 20% kits but with 100's of salvages using them I've never seen a rare.  I routinely break down all the blue/green items I find too.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sky on August 29, 2012, 07:11:09 AM

You can have spaces and surnames which helps a bit, but since names are game global... yeah, going to be a fair bit of competition.
I love the ability to put spaces in, I'm only using two of my traditional names, was able to use 3 new ones because of differing surnames!

Though there probably aren't a ton of Zebulons.

To contribute a basic one - wish I had known the bank was a shared bank across the account!


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: KallDrexx on August 29, 2012, 08:13:50 AM
FYI for those necros out there, the enter death shroud is the same ability as exit death shroud.  What that means is that if you are in PVP (or any other frantic situation) and you need to enter death shroud, PRESS THE BUTTON ONLY ONCE.  When you press it twice before you enter death shroud you will enter than exit death shroud, and be stuck with a 3-4 second cooldown......

This pissed me off to no end yesterday in pvp.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 29, 2012, 09:44:49 AM

You can have spaces and surnames which helps a bit, but since names are game global... yeah, going to be a fair bit of competition.
I love the ability to put spaces in, I'm only using two of my traditional names, was able to use 3 new ones because of differing surnames!

Though there probably aren't a ton of Zebulons.

To contribute a basic one - wish I had known the bank was a shared bank across the account!

It is just the general bank area, and not the collections, right? I meant to test that last night and got distracted.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: KallDrexx on August 29, 2012, 09:46:21 AM
Just read this while browsing:

Quote
Hey guys,
Let me open up with a quote from Jim Boer (Arenanet Employee) about this.
No matter how fantastic a game’s music is, when you hear the same music for the thousandth time, you start wanting to change things up a bit. Many players will simply turn the game music off and play their own collections. The problem is that an external music player has no context as to what’s going on in-game. Guild Wars 2 will offer a solution for this as well. We’re giving players the option of choosing external music playlists that the game’s audio engine will use as a replacement for the default in-game music. Players can choose different playlists for background ambience and battle music, for instance. Additionally, when appropriate, such as during cinematics, the game can revert back to in-game music temporarily to give the best possible cinematic experience, then resume the custom playlist when it’s done. Did you know you can replace the (awesome) music in the game and substitute it with your own? -Jim Boer
This a feature in the game that in my opinion does not recieve enough recognition.
Here's how you do it:
Go to you documents folder -> Guild Wars 2 -> Music.
Create a playlist using your favorite media player.
The music files have to be in a format that FMOD supports by default: .mp3, .ogg, .flac, .wav, .aiff, .mid, .it etc.
The playlist formats that are supported are: .wpl, .m3u, .pls, .asx, and .wax
To play your playlists you have to give it a specific name. The playlist names that are currently recognized by the game are:
Ambient
Battle
Underwater
City
MainMenu
NightTime
Crafting
BossBattle
So if you have a playlist in the Guild Wars 2 Music folder called 'City', this playlist will start to play when you are in Hoelsbrak! Awesome!
Hope this little guide helps you!
Please enjoy!

FYI, if you make a custom playlist you need to have the first song be a 1 second blank song.  Each time it changes the playlist  it plays the first track and then randomizes from there.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: 01101010 on August 29, 2012, 09:55:14 AM
Just read this while browsing:

Quote
Hey guys,
Let me open up with a quote from Jim Boer (Arenanet Employee) about this.
No matter how fantastic a game’s music is, when you hear the same music for the thousandth time, you start wanting to change things up a bit. Many players will simply turn the game music off and play their own collections. The problem is that an external music player has no context as to what’s going on in-game. Guild Wars 2 will offer a solution for this as well. We’re giving players the option of choosing external music playlists that the game’s audio engine will use as a replacement for the default in-game music. Players can choose different playlists for background ambience and battle music, for instance. Additionally, when appropriate, such as during cinematics, the game can revert back to in-game music temporarily to give the best possible cinematic experience, then resume the custom playlist when it’s done. Did you know you can replace the (awesome) music in the game and substitute it with your own? -Jim Boer
This a feature in the game that in my opinion does not recieve enough recognition.
Here's how you do it:
Go to you documents folder -> Guild Wars 2 -> Music.
Create a playlist using your favorite media player.
The music files have to be in a format that FMOD supports by default: .mp3, .ogg, .flac, .wav, .aiff, .mid, .it etc.
The playlist formats that are supported are: .wpl, .m3u, .pls, .asx, and .wax
To play your playlists you have to give it a specific name. The playlist names that are currently recognized by the game are:
Ambient
Battle
Underwater
City
MainMenu
NightTime
Crafting
BossBattle
So if you have a playlist in the Guild Wars 2 Music folder called 'City', this playlist will start to play when you are in Hoelsbrak! Awesome!
Hope this little guide helps you!
Please enjoy!

FYI, if you make a custom playlist you need to have the first song be a 1 second blank song.  Each time it changes the playlist  it plays the first track and then randomizes from there.

Holy shit that is pretty nifty.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: schild on August 29, 2012, 10:21:27 AM
brb replacing all my music with music from Doom 1.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Lantyssa on August 29, 2012, 10:22:30 AM
It is just the general bank area, and not the collections, right? I meant to test that last night and got distracted.
It's everything.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Trippy on August 29, 2012, 11:41:17 AM
How to join your friends in an overflow zone:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=22121.msg1106102#msg1106102


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 29, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
It is just the general bank area, and not the collections, right? I meant to test that last night and got distracted.
It's everything.

So I can dump all my ingredients into the bank on one character and have another craft with them? If they ever get crafting straight out of the bank into the game it will be AMAZING.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: kildorn on August 29, 2012, 11:49:45 AM
It is just the general bank area, and not the collections, right? I meant to test that last night and got distracted.
It's everything.

So I can dump all my ingredients into the bank on one character and have another craft with them? If they ever get crafting straight out of the bank into the game it will be AMAZING.

Yes. So collect EVERYTHING, since you may want to pick up a craft that uses it eventually.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on August 29, 2012, 11:50:34 AM
And even if you don't in 2 months when they finally have the trading post working you can sell it on the commodities market.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: KallDrexx on August 29, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
Someone mentioned before that they didn't know how much health they had because of the scaling.  FYI, the hero menu (H) shows your total stats and your effective stats at the same time (green are your effective/scaled down stats and white are your real stats).


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Zetor on August 30, 2012, 12:28:10 AM
A note about vistas - the earlier ones are typically straightforward with an obvious path to follow, but some in Lornar's Pass (the one in the SW corner and the one near the griffons in the east) were pretty tricky. If you've been trying for several minutes to make a "tricky" jump without any luck, look for an alternate path. You shouldn't need swiftness and 'cheaty' movement skills like ride the lightning / jump shot to get to any vistas (though they can help, sometimes).

Also, if you're standing on a POI and it doesn't unlock, check the map for an elevation sign next to the POI. It's probably going to be under you (arrow pointing down), and you need to find a cavern or underwater tunnel to get there.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: satael on August 30, 2012, 03:46:02 AM
A big thing alot of people seem to be making a mistake with is playing only the content that is pretty much fed to you.
There's alot of "easter-eggy" stuff (and events like spawning special mobs) that you can activate by talking to npcs and actually doing the stuff they talk about which are not so apparent.
(ie. there seems to be a place where /kneel-emote and /say-ing a certain name trigger stuff...)

For now I'm enjoying the game alot finding lots of small stuff (though spoiler sites etc will spoil the fun soon enough since I can't help wondering about all that I'm missing :uhrr: )


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Tmon on August 30, 2012, 05:32:54 AM
You can swap in a new a bag by dropping it on an existing one.  All the stuff in the old bag will migrate to the new bag automagically.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Threash on August 30, 2012, 09:04:53 AM
I would assume GW2 is gonna have birthday presents for your characters like GW1 did, eventually they become extremely valuable so fill up those roster spots now rather than later.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on August 31, 2012, 10:48:16 AM
I would assume GW2 is gonna have birthday presents for your characters like GW1 did, eventually they become extremely valuable so fill up those roster spots now rather than later.

Oh, good!  Mine's tomorrow.  Can't wait.



(kidding)


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on August 31, 2012, 11:47:15 AM
To respond with something useful:

You can take two professions.  Covering both your armor (armorsmith/leathercrafting/tailor) and weapons (weaponsmith/huntsman/artifacer) will be very difficult on materials (trading post being down doesn't help either), especially when you get to the tier that requires 8 blue drops per item creation.  I've tried to do that on two characters, but am having a much easier time ONLY focusing on my armor creation.  It will skill up faster than a weapon craft with more pieces that are personally usable.  Jewelcraft can be skilled up nicely in parallel though, and makes 5 usable equipment pieces.  I've limited my karma purchases to my weapons (staff/trident) and rebreathers (cannot be crafted to my knowledge or salvaged).  By crafting my own armor and buying weapons for karma, I'm usually sitting at level minus one with a bag full of next level gear ready to go, including jewelry.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on August 31, 2012, 11:50:20 AM
Good point. Been having trouble staying ahead on both Artificer and Tailor. And since the Tailor mat reqs are lighter, and the Discovery skill-ups so lucrative, I may just focus on that for now.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Tmon on August 31, 2012, 11:54:50 AM
I discovered that if I equip an axe in the main hand, a horn in the off hand of set one and only a torch in my second set off hand that a weapon switch keeps the main hand weapon and only switches the off hand weapon.  It comes in handy when I want to swap between the horn for speed buffs but want to have the torch handy for burning stuff while keeping my axe skills available for both.  


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Quinton on September 01, 2012, 11:51:43 PM
Realizing that traveling to the other starter zones and questing there is a good way to avoid the content getting to far in front of you and to stock up on skill points made a big difference in the enjoyability of the game. 

A big headache I've run into is lack of decent gear -- I was extremely frustrated by the human storyline quest around level 10-11 and was getting seriously smacked around trying to solo it (running into one of those restarted-until-all-my-armor-was-broken situations) -- and taking a break to find better gear, apply enhancements to existing gear, etc, helped get me past it.  Lack of functional AH (or mail!) really hurts here.

Is it possible to bring a group along for a storyline mission?


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: kildorn on September 02, 2012, 12:05:20 AM
Realizing that traveling to the other starter zones and questing there is a good way to avoid the content getting to far in front of you and to stock up on skill points made a big difference in the enjoyability of the game. 

A big headache I've run into is lack of decent gear -- I was extremely frustrated by the human storyline quest around level 10-11 and was getting seriously smacked around trying to solo it (running into one of those restarted-until-all-my-armor-was-broken situations) -- and taking a break to find better gear, apply enhancements to existing gear, etc, helped get me past it.  Lack of functional AH (or mail!) really hurts here.

Is it possible to bring a group along for a storyline mission?

Most, yes.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: ffc on September 02, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
If a npc is shouting that they need help, talk to them.  They will usually send you to a DE.
Listen to npcs after an event to see if there is another in a chain.

This needs to be repeated.  Nobody I have seen in any starter zone has stuck to a DE after its completion to follow the DE chain and that is a bunch of missed content made more interesting because it follows something just completed.  As soon as a DE is finished people sprint off.

There was one DE that started out by gathering some stuff.  After all the stuff was gathered, it was given to an asura robot named Runner.  The robot was told to go deliver the items and then Runner ran off.  I followed it, nobody else did.  Runner delivered the items and that led to a DE to defend the items from bombers.  Fortunately one other person showed up after a couple bombers and we held the rest off.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sky on September 02, 2012, 11:52:43 AM
This needs to be repeated.  Nobody I have seen in any starter zone has stuck to a DE after its completion to follow the DE chain and that is a bunch of missed content made more interesting because it follows something just completed.  As soon as a DE is finished people sprint off.
No kidding. People programmed by wow. There is a lot to this game if you pay attention and look around, but hey, can't expect too much from people.

I can't believe people are struggling with levels, though I'm still pretty low (lvl 17 with my highest guy). I'm down-leveled everywhere I'm playing right now. Does this kick in later I guess?


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on September 02, 2012, 12:17:51 PM
Maybe a class or completionist thing? As an Ele, I haven't had a problem constantly gaining XP through 25 (still youngish though). I do still occasioanlly people in /map chat saying things like "I can't do my next level of storyline and have done a few DEs, but can't level up". It's not intuitive just how many things in this game give XP :-)


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Quinton on September 02, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
This needs to be repeated.  Nobody I have seen in any starter zone has stuck to a DE after its completion to follow the DE chain and that is a bunch of missed content made more interesting because it follows something just completed.  As soon as a DE is finished people sprint off.

This drives me nuts.  It doesn't *always* happen but it happens often enough that I'm wondering what's up with people.  Not only are the DEs nice XP but watching the storylines unfold is fun.

I also think there should be a platinum participation level for situations where *nobody* but you does an event, mostly because I did a silly "herd moas into a pen" DE and nobody else in the zone could be bothered to chase the dumb birds around.  That's dedication!


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sky on September 03, 2012, 09:09:50 AM
You should also log out where a big boss event takes place. I've logged in twice now to a DE that drops a master chest and the loot pinata gave me mastercrafted stuff. That's always a fun way to start a session.

And don't waste your time with the svanir dome line of DE other than an initial completion/exploration; the boss doesn't drop a chest, apparently. I've done it two or three times por nada.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: nurtsi on September 03, 2012, 09:23:39 AM
Yesterday I had an pretty cool experience that made me realize how much effort they've put into some of the missions.

It all started from a small village at somewhere near the mountain near the Durmand Priory. A caravan dude was asking for protection (you know, the circle icon on top of their head, doesn't show up on the map). I talk to guy, he wants me to escort the caravan to a new dig site. We start off, getting the usual ambush or two. Then we run into a collapsed bridge. This spawns an event where we need to protect the workers repairing the bridge while bandits with explosives try to blow it up. After the bridge was repaired, we cross it and arrive to the dig site. First, we must clear it from the rat people that have taken over. Once that is done, another caravan arrives and the Priory dudes setup a camp and perimeter. Then they start going inside the mine to dig for stuff.

All this started from an NPC that never shows up on map. So unless you pay attention, you can easily miss it. The whole quest was like a mini-dungeon on the world map that took around 30 minutes to complete.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sky on September 03, 2012, 01:19:36 PM
Double tapping a hotkey will auto-cast the effect wherever the mouse pointer is, for ground targeted effects.

This has made my circle strafing shortbow thief's life SO MUCH EASIER. You can even tap once to call up the template and then double click to cast.

Love it. Even for spammy boss fights where I just want to plop my ae nuke on the boss, it's easier just to point and double tap than to tap then click.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: March on September 03, 2012, 01:28:25 PM
Double tapping a hotkey will auto-cast the effect wherever the mouse pointer is, for ground targeted effects.

This has made my circle strafing shortbow thief's life SO MUCH EASIER. You can even tap once to call up the template and then double click to cast.

Love it. Even for spammy boss fights where I just want to plop my ae nuke on the boss, it's easier just to point and double tap than to tap then click.

There's an option setting that will quick-cast GTAOE with one tap (of course, need to pre-align your GT before tapping).

Personally, I'm struggling quite a bit with all the GTAOE abilities... I actively avoid set-ups that have them.  Still, I notice that they offer traits that make perfectly good PBAOE into GT... so I guess I'm doing it wrong.  I much prefer picking a target and having AOE effects "splash" off of that.  GTAOE has always been (for me) only useful to avoid LOS issues (DAOC), but never a mechanic that I would select.  wish there was an option to make GT either PB or Splash.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Zetor on September 03, 2012, 01:32:37 PM
I can't imagine playing my staff ele (and my 11 ground-target AOEs) without fastcast - though I'd probably have to train myself to use doubletap for spvp tournaments, as precise placement of area effects is a must there.

GTAEs aren't that much better than mob-centered AOEs in normal pve (except for precasting on spawnpoints in zerg DEs), but they're awesome in pvp for area control/denial. I'm a slippery motherfucker in wvw... if a zerg is chasing me, I can drop down a circular AE slow field in water, an AE stun field in air, and a slowing wall in earth - and finish off by switching to fire, doing a 180 and using burning retreat for even more range. Yakety Sax optional.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 03, 2012, 04:13:30 PM
Maybe a class or completionist thing? As an Ele, I haven't had a problem constantly gaining XP through 25 (still youngish though). I do still occasioanlly people in /map chat saying things like "I can't do my next level of storyline and have done a few DEs, but can't level up". It's not intuitive just how many things in this game give XP :-)

It's the gathering. You kind of have to do it to keep up unless you're PVPing, and a lot of people never bothered with it in other games so they don't bother with it here.

GTAEs are soooo much more powerful than targeted on people ones in WvW.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: KallDrexx on September 03, 2012, 04:33:45 PM
So this will probably annoy achievers once they see this, but in another thread I talked about an awesome pirate cave I randomly stumbled upon.  Turns out there are achievements for all the little hidden puzzles in the explorers category.  Now I want to look at the descriptiosn and find them all :-/


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Nebu on September 03, 2012, 10:10:06 PM
For those that may not have noticed, holding down the ctrl key will show you all clickables and mobs at a distance.  This can speed up heart quests tremendously and help find those pesky hidden nodes.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Tmon on September 04, 2012, 05:57:01 AM
When you run close to an NPC you will see the action icon light up, if it says greet, the NPC has nothing to say.  If it says talk a conversation is possible, sometimes it's a lore/flavor dump, sometimes it spawns a quest and occasionally it unlocks a hidden vendor.  I was able to buy some nice 30 minute regeneration boosts from an NPC I stopped to chat with in Gendaren Fields.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: KallDrexx on September 04, 2012, 05:58:23 AM
I randomly /kneel ed at a giant griffin statue  I came across and got 3 minutes of 100% endurance regen  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Bzalthek on September 04, 2012, 06:11:13 AM
Found a super jump puzzle last night in ascalon.  There was one area I had to switch in a sprint ability to get past, which frustrated me until I stopped thinking I could brute force it.  The amount of hidden puzzles or just hidden paths to different areas is pretty damn cool. 


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on September 04, 2012, 06:56:47 AM
Found a super jump puzzle last night in ascalon.  There was one area I had to switch in a sprint ability to get past, which frustrated me until I stopped thinking I could brute force it.  The amount of hidden puzzles or just hidden paths to different areas is pretty damn cool. 

Was that the one that lead to the west wall and the rich gold vein?  I'm still trying to figure that one out.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Bzalthek on September 04, 2012, 07:47:14 AM
Nah it's in the south, you need to swim underwater to start it, leads to a splendid chest.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Nebu on September 04, 2012, 07:56:04 AM
I randomly /kneel ed at a giant griffin statue  I came across and got 3 minutes of 100% endurance regen  :awesome_for_real:

Now that's cool.  I love these little touches.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: 01101010 on September 04, 2012, 08:11:50 AM
Not that it is really a tip, but try and get to reviving people before they are all the way dead. Getting someone up from downed vs. dead is soooo much easier and shorter, timewise.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on September 04, 2012, 08:30:14 AM
Not that it is really a tip, but try and get to reviving people before they are all the way dead. Getting someone up from downed vs. dead is soooo much easier and shorter, timewise.

By far.  And the ele utility skill "Glyph of Renewal (http://"http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Renewal")" allows you to revive players with different effects based on attunement.  Swapping to earth and activating that can get up 3 players at once in a couple seconds.  Doesn't work on defeated, but still a great skill.  Additionally, +healing affects how quickly you can get up another player with a revive.  I'm trying to spec for water/arcane/air and go for utility in grouping situations with attunement ae buffs and condition removal and a moderate +healing. I can get players up pretty quickly.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: bhodi on September 06, 2012, 01:09:00 PM
Forget crafting, and DO NOT BUY cultural armor or weapons. Complete ripoff. Level 40, 10k karma for a weapon and 30-60 silver for one piece of armor? No thanks.

Instead, just sort by price buy cheap shit that is almost as good on the TP. I'll buy top of the line masterwork items for 1-2 silver each, sure.


For eles, switching attunements count as weapon switches, and you switch elements way more than most people switch weapons, so find appropriate runes to use (abuse) that.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 01:11:12 PM
I am wearing my Norn tier 3 when I can afford it, prices be damned. I need antlers.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: kildorn on September 06, 2012, 01:44:14 PM
The cultural stuff is entirely intended to be transmuted over your actual stat gear. The t3 is especially priced for rarity, just like GW1 armor sets could get crazy expensive.

There is also 42k karma/piece exotic level 80 gear in the last zone, a few full sets with different stats/looks. The price is hilarious.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ginaz on September 06, 2012, 02:20:55 PM
Maybe a class or completionist thing? As an Ele, I haven't had a problem constantly gaining XP through 25 (still youngish though). I do still occasioanlly people in /map chat saying things like "I can't do my next level of storyline and have done a few DEs, but can't level up". It's not intuitive just how many things in this game give XP :-)

It's the gathering. You kind of have to do it to keep up unless you're PVPing, and a lot of people never bothered with it in other games so they don't bother with it here.

GTAEs are soooo much more powerful than targeted on people ones in WvW.

I go out of my way to gather shit.  I've even died a few times from mobs that were close by because of it.  Gathering xp helps out a lot in the long run and I've had no problems gaining levels for my thief (28 atm), and thats without even pvping yet.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Fordel on September 06, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
I always forget to gather shit unless its slapping me in the face, I just murder everything I run across. So many dead Moa's  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: murdoc on September 06, 2012, 03:59:38 PM
Moa's are awesome - non-agro mobs don't get killed that often and are worth up to 4x the XP.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on September 06, 2012, 04:24:34 PM
THAT is something I wish I had known sooner: the amount of XP on kill is based on the collective kills of that mob.

I gather all the time. That stupid minimap with all its stupid icons calls to me so often, after all the diversions to all the resources, I frequently forget where the hell I was going in the first place. Especially when getting to a resource then uncovers another damned heart, POI or waypoint. I swear, I feel like the most prominent enemy I have here is the fog of war!


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on September 07, 2012, 04:34:59 AM
For eles, switching attunements count as weapon switches, and you switch elements way more than most people switch weapons, so find appropriate runes to use (abuse) that.

That is a good tip.  I didn't know that and have been staying away from weapons/sigils that have "when you swap to this weapon in combat" because technically an ele is always on whatever weapon.  If attunement swaps count, holy shit, you can spam the shit out of some boon stacking.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: bhodi on September 07, 2012, 10:06:31 AM
That is a good tip.  I didn't know that and have been staying away from weapons/sigils that have "when you swap to this weapon in combat" because technically an ele is always on whatever weapon.  If attunement swaps count, holy shit, you can spam the shit out of some boon stacking.
Yes! There is also one thing I discovered. If you have a sigil that will only proc every so often, like the sigil of rage which is swiftness with a 45s cooldown, that cooldown is applied to ALL your procs. So basically, only have one 'on proc' sigil because the others won't trigger if any are on cooldown.

Also, be aware that might stacks duration, not intensity, so you PROBABLY want one sigil of battle (stacks of might on switch) and then one of geomancy (AOE bleeding) /energy (+50% endurance) / doom (AOE poison)

You probably want bleeding over poison because bleeding stacks intensity and poison stacks duration, so for D/D ele you want one battle and one geomancy on your daggers.

Edit; Geomancy appears to do nothing. Sigil of battle works fine.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: kildorn on September 07, 2012, 12:37:53 PM
Might should stack intensity. Fury stacks duration, as does Vigor, Protection, etc. But you can have multiple stacks of Might.

I usually see people rolling with +power/+crit on kill for pve. The AOE on switch are PBAE, so awesome for melee types and meh for ranged.

Personally, I roll with Bloodlust (+power on kill) and might on weapon switch (meh), and a rune set that provides Might/Fury to nearby allies randomly. Combined with Might on illusion shattering, I tend to be running an 8 stack pretty constantly. What I need is a reliable way to gain Fury (it brings me from 38% crit to mid-50s)


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Kageru on September 08, 2012, 12:09:48 AM

Looks like crafting directly from the bank just got patched in.

*massive win*


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 08, 2012, 12:10:39 AM
Yeah, it's nice - for discovery you still have to put stuff into your bags, though.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on September 08, 2012, 04:57:46 AM
Hmm. Very nice. But still kinda just somewhat of a bonus. So far, all of my crafting skillups are on discovery. And while i could do an occasional bulk refinement of crafting materials, I'm mostly just buying all that still from the Trading Post because it's so cheap.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Kageru on September 08, 2012, 07:07:11 AM

You still need to make all the components for the discovery. It's substantially more convenient.

Also cooking nerfed. Apparently making the components buyable with karma wasn't a very good idea, so now you need to farm butter and chocolate as mob drops.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Tmon on September 08, 2012, 08:25:44 AM
Can't remember if this was posted, but here's how to put your own music into the game.  http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Customized_soundtrack


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on September 08, 2012, 10:30:28 AM
You still need to make all the components for the discovery. It's substantially more convenient.
Ok, I'll see your "substantially more convenient" and raise you a "almost 100% awesome a bonus"?  :grin:


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sky on September 08, 2012, 11:29:38 AM
If you still need to have things in your inventory for discovery, it's not more convenient, I'll still be swapping everything into my inventory when I god to craft most sessions.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 08, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
I'd call it more convenient, but not substantially more convenient. More like slightly. You still have to shuffle everything in and out for discovery unless you're working from a spoiler list, which I refuse to do for crafting.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sjofn on September 08, 2012, 12:10:09 PM

Also cooking nerfed. Apparently making the components buyable with karma wasn't a very good idea, so now you need to farm butter and chocolate as mob drops.


God fucking dammit. ><

Needing the discovery stuff in my inventory isn't a big deal (except for cooking), because as Kageru mentioned, you still have to make the various components for discovering anyway. So it's MUCH more convenient for, say, my weaponsmith. Less so for my jeweler, but whatever.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: EWSpider on September 08, 2012, 12:41:12 PM
Quote
· Players can now do the production portion of crafting without having to pull the resources from their bank. Note: Discovery still requires use of the bank. This is something we would like to change but decided that getting part of the way there was better than making players wait for the entire fix.

Discovery will eventually work from the bank as well. :heart:


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: KallDrexx on September 08, 2012, 01:56:28 PM
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· Players can now do the production portion of crafting without having to pull the resources from their bank. Note: Discovery still requires use of the bank. This is something we would like to change but decided that getting part of the way there was better than making players wait for the entire fix.

Discovery will eventually work from the bank as well. :heart:

For those wanting a reference, they confirmed this in the latest patch notes (https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/news/Update-Notes-September-8th-2012/first#post32760)


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sky on September 08, 2012, 02:12:58 PM
Cool. ANd I'm on the fence with butter drops. On the one hand, karma flows easily. On the other, my chef is an alt who is level 2 with no karma; so getting some butter today on my warrior was pretty awesome, since I basically haven't crafted food because of the karma block.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Nebu on September 08, 2012, 02:26:03 PM
Getting cooking to 400 was trivially easy if you opened up the heart merchants that had key ingredients.  I'm not sure why they made this change as food isn't really all that much of a game changer.  If they needed to do anything, it was lower the amount of xp that crafting food gave.  I made many levels off of food. 


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on September 08, 2012, 03:50:01 PM
I'd call it more convenient, but not substantially more convenient. More like slightly. You still have to shuffle everything in and out for discovery unless you're working from a spoiler list, which I refuse to do for crafting.

I dunno about other professions, but Tailoring Discovery doesn't require any spoilers for general skill-upping. Once you unlock the new set of insignias, you know you'll have at least 3-6 different insignias to combine with six different skill slots. The formula is trivially easy.

I figure there's some crazy four-resource combine discoveries out there. Like, I've heard a rumor there's combines that result in entire gear sets. But I'll worry about that when I hit the cap like other min/max stuff (for me).

Edit: tl;dr version: just read this thread (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=22541.70) like I coulda...


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Maledict on September 08, 2012, 04:00:03 PM
Getting cooking to 400 was trivially easy if you opened up the heart merchants that had key ingredients.  I'm not sure why they made this change as food isn't really all that much of a game changer.  If they needed to do anything, it was lower the amount of xp that crafting food gave.  I made many levels off of food. 

Cooking was designed to be the hardest tradeskill to learn - to be the one that tradeskill nuts would learn. Instead, it was laughably easy and used by tons of people to get from 70 to 80 in about an hour.

I love the experience from tradeskilling and don't want it reduced, I just don't think you should be able to power through a craft like that.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sjofn on September 08, 2012, 05:53:22 PM
Cool. ANd I'm on the fence with butter drops. On the one hand, karma flows easily. On the other, my chef is an alt who is level 2 with no karma; so getting some butter today on my warrior was pretty awesome, since I basically haven't crafted food because of the karma block.

You could've bought the karma stuff with your main, all the ingredients just go to the collectibles page. :P


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 08, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
You can still buy butter and chocolate with gold. I'm looking at a repair merchant who has them right now. Also, apparently not all karma food bits have been removed, because in the same place with this guy there's a heart merchant selling a couple other ingredients 'in bulk' for 77 karma per bag.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Rendakor on September 08, 2012, 08:25:51 PM
Buying those is probably a bannable exploit though.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: ajax34i on September 08, 2012, 08:33:19 PM
Cooking was designed to be the hardest tradeskill to learn - to be the one that tradeskill nuts would learn.

Why?  I'm curious to know the reasoning behind that decision, if anyone knows.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Kageru on September 09, 2012, 01:13:30 AM

Because there has to be one, and because it's the only trade-skill that generates consumables I guess.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Tmon on September 09, 2012, 04:53:40 AM
You can still buy butter and chocolate with gold. I'm looking at a repair merchant who has them right now. Also, apparently not all karma food bits have been removed, because in the same place with this guy there's a heart merchant selling a couple other ingredients 'in bulk' for 77 karma per bag.

Only certain ingredients were removed from Karma merchants, others just had their costs bumped up.

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/news/Update-Notes-September-8th-2012/first#post32760

· Increased the karma costs of all Bulk Cooking Materials.
· The following Cooking Materials are no longer sold for Karma and are now acquired through drops, gathering nodes, or loot bags: Butter, Chocolate, Vanilla, Chili Peppers, Thyme, Black Peppercorns, Cinnamon, Bay Leaves, Walnuts, and Oranges.



Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Miasma on September 09, 2012, 05:55:00 AM
You have to complete hearts to buy some items in buld too.  Just found a lemon karma vendor.  Milton, the first heart north of Lion's arch.  I need to check them more often instead of just leaving, probably where most of my missing ingredients are.

Don't know if this has already been posted but be sure to complete all the zones around level 60ish, they give orange items on completion.

Once you get to Orr there are no more hearts but you still get orange items for map completion.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Raknor on September 10, 2012, 09:13:14 AM
If you need some quick cash after level 40.  Run the level 40 dungeon CM (Caudecus's Manor). Takes about 20 minutes in story mode and gives 20k xp and 13 silver, plus what you get by killing stuff inside.  I've never had any problems finding a group. If you don't see a group outside log out/in and check the overflow.   Bring a ranged weapon for the first boss.

I had spent a little silver on crafting and once I reached 40 the 1 gold book pretty much wiped me out.  I've run CM a fair bit while waiting for friends to get online and I'm now at 6 gold and level 59 (2 gold book at level 60 /sigh).  I also stopped having to buy items off the trading post as the drops I have gotten have almost completely upgraded my gear to current levels.


Another thing I noticed the other day which made me slap my forehead.  Once you get out of the armor that salvages for copper (copper is 20-29c per ore on the TP), it's usually better to sell the items to the vendor and buy Iron off the Trading post.  Most armor items vendor for 20-80 copper.  Copper on the TP is 5 copper per when I looked yesterday. Granted it saves you time breaking it down while you're out and about, but if you can save those items until town it will increase your money flow. My guess is that this would hold true for most crafting professions excluding those using cloth.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: murdoc on September 10, 2012, 09:17:56 AM
Is Caudecus's Manor about the same difficulty as the Ascalonian Catacombs?


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Genev on September 10, 2012, 09:18:29 AM
I felt it was very easy when i did it.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Raknor on September 10, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
Is Caudecus's Manor about the same difficulty as the Ascalonian Catacombs?

Waaaay easier...  First boss is the only difficult one.  Need to line of sight the rockets using the fountain. (and don't stand next to anyone). 


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: murdoc on September 10, 2012, 09:33:44 AM
Ascalonian Catacombs whooped on us last night, had to pretty much respec all our chars (2 ele, 2 rangers, 1 warrior) to get any sort of survivability.

Also, figured out last night that you get 10 guild influence for every char you log every 24 hours. So, for our small guild - logging in all our chars once every 24hrs got us 50 inf per account.


Title: blah1
Post by: Zetor on September 10, 2012, 12:20:34 PM
As a staff elementalist, I'm a combo machine. I took Radiation Field (asura) as a utility skill because clearly I didn't have enough GTAEs already.  :why_so_serious:

Some random things:
- you can use some instant skills while you're channeling another skill or reviving someone. You can also use some skills while you're knocked down or being KB'd (some instants, and things like attunement/kit swaps).
- you can intercept enemy projectiles by standing between the attacker and the target.

I've revived quite a few people against tough ranged bosses by body-blocking them, starting the revive, switching to earth attunement and using my "reflect projectiles" skill, then switching to water to get some regen going... the revive keeps channeling through all that. It's super effective!


e: of course this is for pve. For pvp you'll want something that gives stability to ensure an uninterrupted revive or stomp.


Title: blah2
Post by: Ard on September 10, 2012, 12:27:07 PM
The other big instant for elementalists is Arcane Bubble, so you can invul shield yourself during long channels after you start them if you suddenly get swarmed, like Churning Earth from offhand dagger.


Title: Re: blah2
Post by: Murgos on September 12, 2012, 09:02:11 AM
The other big instant for elementalists is Arcane Bubble, so you can invul shield yourself during long channels after you start them if you suddenly get swarmed, like Churning Earth from offhand dagger.

I don't know if it's true for Ele's but for other classes (certainly thief) you can cast instants while waiting for a channel to finish and even move around.


Title: Re: blah2
Post by: Sky on September 12, 2012, 09:20:37 AM
I don't know if it's true for Ele's but for other classes (certainly thief) you can cast instants while waiting for a channel to finish and even move around.
Wish I had known that sooner! Knew you could move for most channels, but cast instants? That's crazy.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Zetor on September 12, 2012, 09:46:32 AM
Yes, I said that two posts above  :awesome_for_real:

It's similar to how you could cast stances in GW1 even while you were channeling another skill.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sky on September 12, 2012, 09:47:28 AM
Yes, I said that two posts above  :awesome_for_real:

I wish I had known you said that two posts up before quoting Murgos!


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Rasix on September 12, 2012, 10:08:52 AM
I wish I would have known there was a lower level area on the other side of the zone for Gendarran Fields.  You quickly run out of level appropriate tasks after you enter from Kessex Hills.  

Also, Ice Elementals seem to drop a lot of Lapis Nuggets.  There's an escort quest in the Eastern part of Gendarran Fields that has you killing a ton of them.


Title: Re: Quck things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on September 12, 2012, 03:52:40 PM
I wish I would have known there was a lower level area on the other side of the zone for Gendarran Fields.  You quickly run out of level appropriate tasks after you enter from Kessex Hills.  
heh funny I had the same experience last night except it was Harathi Highlands. I'm in Blazeridge which is 40-50, but there seems to be a big jump between south and north of the wall. At 45 I can handle 49 and maybe an add. But not really a 50 unless all my cooldowns are done, and certainly no add. Did a couple of DEs and then happened to hear someone in /map gripe about the jump puzzle in Harathi. So I zoom the map out and low-and-behold, a whole 35-45 zone I didn't know was there.

Now I'm lording over the place. Well, deleveled, but still, lording enough to be lordly.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Genev on September 12, 2012, 04:34:27 PM
I tend to play in lower level zones than i actually am, i just hit 80 and i'm dreading what's going to happen once i hit the level 80 areas!
You can get all the way to 80 without ever playing in a level-appropriate zone (except 1-15, obviously :p)


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on September 12, 2012, 06:13:35 PM
I tend to to lower level zones than i actually am, i just hit 80 and i'm dreading what's going to happen once i hit the level 80 areas!
You can get all the way to 80 without ever playing in a level-appropriate zone (except 1-15, obviously :p)

Pretty much my experience as I've been going for map completions. (done every main city/starter zone) and working on the 15-25 zones and already level 37.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Threash on September 12, 2012, 08:44:03 PM
I tend to to lower level zones than i actually am, i just hit 80 and i'm dreading what's going to happen once i hit the level 80 areas!
You can get all the way to 80 without ever playing in a level-appropriate zone (except 1-15, obviously :p)

Not even, you can bump a few levels just porting around getting city zone completions and even more if you go into wvwvw.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Genev on September 13, 2012, 05:10:23 AM
I never leave a zone without getting zone completion, except by accident (happened once that i went for dungeons while i was doing a zone, logged off somehwere else and had forgotten i was in the middle of something)

I'm currently at 76% world completion, getting some really nice rewards :)


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Lantyssa on September 17, 2012, 08:13:07 AM
If you take one Master, Journeyman, and Fine Salve Kits and 3 Mystic Stones (5 for 250 gems in the store.  Cost in gold isn't much.) and put them in the Mystic Forge, you'll get a Mystic Salvage kit.  The Mystic Salvage kit is of Master quality and 250 uses.

Use Master/Mystic kits on 70+ rares to get Globs of Ectoplasm which are needed for crafting Exotics.  High level Greens I sell.  High level Blues I break down with Fine kits to get extra crafting materials.  (I may switch to Master-level after I'm done leveling my skills.)


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Segoris on September 17, 2012, 09:05:47 AM
Nice, didn't know about that recipe so that is definitely worth it

At this point I'm just vendoring blues as the materials returned generally have been a bigger loss compared to vendoring an item and buying the mats off the TP. With a large enough sample it may show a break even (or when prices rise on the market place so the mats and rares are worth more) but until then the mats returned are not worth the cost of salvage kits + item vendor price. I am curious if magic find effects salvaging though as I don't really have any magic find and would explain my bad salvaging luckk.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Falconeer on September 17, 2012, 09:20:26 AM
Globs of ectoplasm are going for 23 silver each in EU. That thing is a goldmine at least until everyone finds out. SELL YOUR GLOBS NOW!

EDIT: Just tested. It doesn't give you a Glob of Ectoplasm every time, but it does quite often. It gives yellow sigils when it doesn't. It is still worth the price.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on September 17, 2012, 09:59:28 AM
Globs of ectoplasm are going for 23 silver each in EU. That thing is a goldmine at least until everyone finds out. SELL YOUR GLOBS NOW!

EDIT: Just tested. It doesn't give you a Glob of Ectoplasm every time, but it does quite often. It gives yellow sigils when it doesn't. It is still worth the price.

If it's the same as a master, it's a 80% to return upgrades (sigils, runes, jewel upgrades) and a 25% to return "rare components" eg: globs of ectoplasm.  Still a very low rate on ectos, but higher than the Blacklion Salvage kits which are 100% upgrade/10% rares.  So if you had a good sigil (say superior bloodlust) on a drop you were going to break, I'd go blacklion.  If the sigil/rune sucks (doesn't sell for more than a glob), then I break it for ecto with a master.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Miasma on September 17, 2012, 11:06:16 AM
Found out I can buy all the harvesting stuff with karma instead of gold from a single vendor instead of running around the whole world looking for the guy that sells Orichalum Picks.  Any weaponsmith karma vendor.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on September 17, 2012, 11:31:44 AM
Found out I can buy all the harvesting stuff with karma instead of gold from a single vendor instead of running around the whole world looking for the guy that sells Orichalum Picks.  Any weaponsmith karma vendor.

There's an all-level harvesting vendor (including Orichalum) outside of every bank in each main city.  If you find an outpost on most maps that has a repair vendor and 1-2 normal merchants, one of those merchants typically has harvesting gear which is level appropriate for the zone.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Miasma on September 17, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
Yes but they want my precious silver.  I want to spend karma as I have no other use for it.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on September 17, 2012, 12:55:11 PM
Yes but they want my precious silver.  I want to spend karma as I have no other use for it.

I'm saving up to play dress-up.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: 01101010 on September 17, 2012, 01:10:31 PM
Yes but they want my precious silver.  I want to spend karma as I have no other use for it.

I'm saving up to play dress-up.

^^^
Same. I did splurge a bit on the gold to gems to buy the heavy armor skin for my norn guard. She's all pointy now.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Pezzle on September 17, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
Server transfers are free at the moment, and should remain so forever as it is awesome.  If you find a bugged quest, do a server transfer.  At the moment they take no longer than logging out and back in.  Also, it is a way to do things with people on other servers that actually works!

Waypoint travel in the cities is free, abuse those to get your business done faster.



Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Miasma on September 17, 2012, 03:33:59 PM
If you take one Master, Journeyman, and Fine Salve Kits and 3 Mystic Stones (5 for 250 gems in the store.  Cost in gold isn't much.) and put them in the Mystic Forge, you'll get a Mystic Salvage kit.  The Mystic Salvage kit is of Master quality and 250 uses.

Use Master/Mystic kits on 70+ rares to get Globs of Ectoplasm which are needed for crafting Exotics.  High level Greens I sell.  High level Blues I break down with Fine kits to get extra crafting materials.  (I may switch to Master-level after I'm done leveling my skills.)
This is a great find, I can recover most of the gold ore I use instead of mining/buying more.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Miasma on September 20, 2012, 05:51:58 AM
I'm sure someone else has already mentioned it but you have a free hearth to lion's arch whenever you want and I somehow only figured it out yesterday.  From anywhere in the world you can bring up your character screen, pvp tab and then click go to the mists.  This is not a PvP zone really, it's sort of a lobby, completely safe.  There is no queue or anything like there is for WvW.  You just port to the mists then turn and go through the asura gate to lion's arch.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sky on September 20, 2012, 07:18:17 AM
What's a hearth?


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Rasix on September 20, 2012, 07:35:07 AM
Port to a home destination.  WoW terminology.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 20, 2012, 10:58:02 AM
I'm sure someone else has already mentioned it but you have a free hearth to lion's arch whenever you want and I somehow only figured it out yesterday.  From anywhere in the world you can bring up your character screen, pvp tab and then click go to the mists.  This is not a PvP zone really, it's sort of a lobby, completely safe.  There is no queue or anything like there is for WvW.  You just port to the mists then turn and go through the asura gate to lion's arch.

The existence of this is a good example of why the travel costs are a shitty design in this game in the first place. Pointless extra hoop to jump through to avoid paying a couple silver, woo.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: tazelbain on September 20, 2012, 11:04:54 AM
People are always going to bitch about money sinks but games need them. Feel free to run every where from LA!


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 20, 2012, 11:15:15 AM
I don't disagree about money sinks in general, but the pricing on this one gets pretty egregious at times, especially when all you want to do is go BACK to the hub. If going through the Mists gets you to LA for free, teleporting using the non-annoying-and-shitty method should also be free.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Lantyssa on September 20, 2012, 11:57:51 AM
You're paying for convenience.  The method only gets you to Lion's Arch or other beginning cities, too.  It's really not worth the money saved for the effort.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 20, 2012, 12:03:41 PM
GW1 seemed to get by just fine letting me teleport for free. But I'm really only arguing that they should make capital city destinations free. I realize that it won't happen partly because then they'd sell less of their obnoxious RMT obstacle remover bank/merchant access things.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Mattemeo on September 20, 2012, 03:59:18 PM
Feel free to run every where from LA!

I do. It saves me enough money to be able to afford items on the BLTC and save up for Gems.
Only time I'll use Asuran Waypoints now is if I'm stuck somewhere. I stopped using them when they started charging me 50c+ to port 10 feet.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sjofn on September 20, 2012, 04:19:33 PM
I totally pay 50c to port 10 feet. <3


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Nebu on September 20, 2012, 05:12:04 PM
I spend my gold without a care in the world.  What do I need money for in this game?  I can farm for everything and that just makes me more money. 


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 20, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
In the long term, you don't need money for anything except repairs. In the short term, I don't have level 80 exotics with the runes I want in every slot, so that is going to suck down a lot of money til I finish that off.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Nebu on September 20, 2012, 05:15:07 PM
In the long term, you don't need money for anything except repairs. In the short term, I don't have level 80 exotics with the runes I want in every slot, so that is going to suck down a lot of money til I finish that off.

I don't either, but it makes almost no difference in my ability to farm what I need.  Other than weapons, the difference in gear upgrades is so minor as to be barely noticeable.  Seems to me to be primarily cosmetic.  Spam 4 buttons while running in a circle... rinse and repeat. 


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 20, 2012, 05:22:05 PM
Um, OK. Your impressions of it don't match mine. A full set of 6 runes has a pretty significant effect. Porting to Orr, then porting back at the end of my session to do capital city stuff wipes out 3+ events worth of silver rewards. I don't think that's really an insignificant cost, especially since you also have to take a side trip to another zone somewhere if you want to complete the mob variety part of the daily.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Nebu on September 20, 2012, 05:33:40 PM
Perhaps I don't feel the pain because I try to avoid pve as much as humanly possible.  I'll defer to your experience.  I'm about 100% certain that you've done more pve than I have. 


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on September 20, 2012, 05:37:49 PM
I was actually thinking of wanting a full set of http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_Melandru for WvW purposes. For the outdoor PVE you're absolutely right, the gear is pretty meaningless. I'm not doing the dungeon stuff.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Nebu on September 20, 2012, 05:43:25 PM
I was actually thinking of wanting a full set of http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_Melandru for WvW purposes. For the outdoor PVE you're absolutely right, the gear is pretty meaningless. I'm not doing the dungeon stuff.


Ooooo... If I could get that set, I'd WvW more.  Thanks for the link!


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Phred on September 20, 2012, 06:33:10 PM
Looking to report a bug? Wondering where the button is? Type  /bug.



Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Tyrnan on September 21, 2012, 05:45:10 AM
Didn't want to derail the economy thread for a second time with this subject so figured I'd just put it in here. For those of you who dislike the Charr running animation, if you bind a key for Stow/Draw Weapons you can use that to make them run upright. You'll have to press it every 30 seconds since they auto-stow it if not in combat but 2 key presses a minute is worth it to not run on all fours  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Mattemeo on September 21, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
The running on all fours thing is pretty much the only thing that attracts me to play Charrs.

*teaches Skritt to undermine the Black Citadel*


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Falconeer on September 21, 2012, 11:08:54 AM
What I am looking for is a button or a command to report a player besides right clicking on their names since that doesn't always work.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Phred on September 21, 2012, 10:02:02 PM
What I am looking for is a button or a command to report a player besides right clicking on their names since that doesn't always work.

How do you know this? All I get when I report someone is a thanks for your submission message in chat. No clue if it goes into a bit bucket or where.



Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Falconeer on September 22, 2012, 02:34:35 AM
No, I just know that right clicking on their names sometimes does nothing, doesn't bring up the report button or any other button. So I can't report them.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Phred on September 22, 2012, 03:05:59 AM
No, I just know that right clicking on their names sometimes does nothing, doesn't bring up the report button or any other button. So I can't report them.

That's weird. Mouse wearing out maybe?


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Mattemeo on September 25, 2012, 12:28:48 PM
I had no idea Health scales by Profession (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Health) were so... completely and utterly insane.

L80 Warrior base HP + Vitality = 18,372
L80 Necromancer base HP + Vitality = 18,372

L80 Engineer base HP + Vitality = 15,082
L80 Ranger base HP + Vitality = 15,082
L80 Mesmer base HP + Vitality = 15,082

L80 Guardian base HP + Vitality = 10,805
L80 Thief base HP + Vitality = 10,805
L80 Elementalist base HP + Vitality = 10,805

This revelation came about when I started to notice my Guardian was getting downed waaaaay quicker than I ever expected him to since he felt so tanky at first.
Turns out Guardians are not tanks, at least remotely in the traditional sense. Magic! Or something. Still. It's kind of odd knowing my 5' human Mesmer will likely always have higher HP than my 9' armor plated hulking Norn.
The less said about the 3' Asuran Necromancer the better at this stage...  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Sky on September 25, 2012, 01:01:20 PM
That...I mean....what?


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Raknor on September 25, 2012, 01:04:34 PM
Would explain my guardians failure to hit point....

Didn't realize it was that far apart though.  Not sure I make up 8k healing in the course of a fight. Not w/o a few cooldowns being used anyways


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Crumbs on September 25, 2012, 01:14:49 PM
That's one of the reasons I love Necro.  There are so many ways to not die, coupled with the high hp. 


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Furiously on September 25, 2012, 01:26:52 PM
However vitality scales inversely to your base hp's.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Nebu on September 25, 2012, 01:54:05 PM
That's one of the reasons I love Necro.  There are so many ways to not die, coupled with the high hp. 

I'm glad that you love yours.  Mine feels underpowered compared to nearly every other class that I've pvp'ed with. 


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Crumbs on September 25, 2012, 02:03:21 PM
That's one of the reasons I love Necro.  There are so many ways to not die, coupled with the high hp. 

I'm glad that you love yours.  Mine feels underpowered compared to nearly every other class that I've pvp'ed with. 

Granted I'm level 16  ;D  and it's not a "run in the thick of it and smash faces" type of deal.  For me, in WvW, it's "hang back, lay down a bunch of marks with the staff, switch to scepter/focus and dot people up, get pummeled, run away in death shroud, consume conditions when death shroud ends."  Quite effective at choke points; would stay alive through many many near deaths.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Crumbs on November 05, 2012, 07:27:05 AM
I wish I had known to open up the waypoints of Orr before hitting 80.  It's actually a good place to get the last 10 levels.

Finally hit 80 on my Necromancer (first time I've hit max level in any played mmo of the past 10 years).  I had wrongly assumed that the karma I'd been saving up would just be taken to one of the city vendors for a few pieces of the famous exotic gear.  Not the case.

Not only are the vendors spread around the Orr map, they're in contested areas, sometimes surrounded by dozens of mobs that attack you while you're interacting with the vendor and respawn really fast.  Not sure how this is a good idea. 


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Threash on November 05, 2012, 09:20:16 AM
The vendors shouldn't even be around until the area is cleared though.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: kildorn on November 05, 2012, 10:25:48 AM
He may have been shopping when the area was being lost?

I've never had aggro by the vendors, but I always shop right after doing the DEs to open them.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 05, 2012, 11:02:57 AM
The Melandru shrine vendor is very often surrounded by mob aggro in my experience.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Crumbs on November 06, 2012, 07:11:30 AM
I did some asking around and it seems the area was bugged at the time.  In the Cathedral of Eternal Radiance, the vendor was up on the center platform.  A cluster of risen including a few veterans kept respawning right on top of them. 

Now that I finally got a few exotics, I have to say that it was kind of frustrating but at the end of the day feels pretty cool to have fought my way to the vendors.  I had to make it aaaallllll they way down to the Cathedral of Silence.  Yet another way I have to re-condition the WoW out of my brain. 


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on November 06, 2012, 03:34:55 PM
I did some asking around and it seems the area was bugged at the time.  In the Cathedral of Eternal Radiance, the vendor was up on the center platform.  A cluster of risen including a few veterans kept respawning right on top of them. 
That's a bug? Last two nights I've stood there with a small group having the mother of all King of the Hill fights the likes of which I haven't seen in an MMO since ever. Or maybe when some schmuck trained the docks in Oasis  :awesome_for_real:

Quote
Now that I finally got a few exotics
Ok, now that I feel like I'm nearing them, how do exotics work? Buy Karma yellows, salvage them for ectoplasm, craft with presumably-other-expensive-stuff at the Mystic Forge?


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 06, 2012, 03:45:50 PM
Craft 'em, buy 'em with karma from Orr vendors, get them by farming token thingies from dungeons to spend on them, fuck around with the forge, buy on TP, or if you're an oddly lucky person, get them via drop.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Furiously on November 06, 2012, 03:49:34 PM
Never salvage exotics. Only salvage yellows, even then check the price.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on November 06, 2012, 04:01:33 PM
Thanks. I did I think twice when I had one of those guaranteed-to-get-good-components salvage kits which gave me the ecto. I have three ecto now, need two more just for a Tailor Insignia. But before I craft anything I'll be making sure i have what I need for the rest of it  :grin:
Craft 'em, buy 'em with karma from Orr vendors, get them by farming token thingies from dungeons to spend on them, fuck around with the forge, buy on TP, or if you're an oddly lucky person, get them via drop.

Ah great ok thanks. I saw some stuff on that Cathedral Karma vendor in the 42k range, but they weren't superior enough over what I had to drop 75% of my Karma on. Should I wait for Cursed Shore?


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 06, 2012, 04:22:02 PM
The stuff is all kind of the same, stat-wise. I mean it will have different types of stats, and different rune sets, but it is all going to cost 42k for the same raw value of stats in general.

42k isn't really that much since they added the daily karma potions. Save those up, maybe do a monthly, then pop a karma booster when you drink them, and you'll get your 6 pieces relatively easily and it doesn't involve the stupid event grinding/DR juggling that you had to do before they added those.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on November 06, 2012, 04:48:33 PM
Yea. I'm not really focused on getting all the exotics anytime quick. Been fine with what I have for the most part. May shift from Staff to D/D and see how that goes before making gear commitments.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Crumbs on November 07, 2012, 07:20:21 AM
Ok, now that I feel like I'm nearing them, how do exotics work? Buy Karma yellows, salvage them for ectoplasm, craft with presumably-other-expensive-stuff at the Mystic Forge?

I stopped spending karma early on, once I found out that it was used for high end stuff.  After using the vendors in Orr, I checked the TP and got a few pieces of level 70something exotics for around 50 silver each.  So, if you don't want to craft them, you can still get some exotics relatively cheap.

I'll probably craft a few in the long term, but I wanted to get some decent 80 gear asap.

edit: forgot to add this link.  Very useful if you want to see who sells what in Orr:  http://dulfy.net/2012/09/08/gw2-templegod-karma-armor-sets/


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Lantyssa on November 07, 2012, 08:21:35 AM
You can get level 80 exotics from the TP for a gold or two if you're not too picky.  If you have the ectos and the main material, the rest of the materials aren't that costly to buy.

If you're willing to brave explorable mode dungeons, the first time through a path each day gets you 60 tokens.  Small armor pieces cost ~180, large ones 260, 1-h weapons are 300, and 2-h weapons are 390.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on November 07, 2012, 01:05:05 PM
You can get level 80 exotics from the TP for a gold or two if you're not too picky.  If you have the ectos and the main material, the rest of the materials aren't that costly to buy.

If you're willing to brave explorable mode dungeons, the first time through a path each day gets you 60 tokens.  Small armor pieces cost ~180, large ones 260, 1-h weapons are 300, and 2-h weapons are 390.

I've run AC so much, I'm pretty much just spending tokens on extra weapons like a GS and Hammer JUST IN CASE I decide I want to tinker with them in the future. 


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Lantyssa on November 07, 2012, 01:12:35 PM
Time to make some alts to fully equip once they hit 80. ;D


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on November 07, 2012, 01:46:32 PM
Time to make some alts to fully equip once they hit 80. ;D

But I love my ele and play the warrior because it's :uhrr: when I want to take a break from the F#-fest of the ele.  I tried ranger and thief, just not my thing.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Lantyssa on November 07, 2012, 03:36:36 PM
Mesmer is where it's at.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: veredus on November 07, 2012, 04:02:07 PM
Melee Necro. Enjoying it way more then my Warrior.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on November 07, 2012, 04:29:52 PM
Mesmer is where it's at.
Love mesmer but still stuck on Ele. Now thinking of going D/D just to see what that style is like. Just got to Cursed Shore and though I've heard many complaints, I like it more than Malchor's so far.

Thanks for all the notes on exotics. Hadn't actually considered the TP. Last time I checked level 80 legendary, they were crazy expensive. Didn't even think I might find better stats in non-80 offerings. I did pick up a legendary Staff though, which made me farm Queensdale a bit just to afford the trip back to Orr. Sure I coulda done the Lions Arch circuit but I do still so love farming lowbie stuff on occasion. Not the same thing as taking a 50 Bard to Crushbone, but close enough  :grin:


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: rk47 on November 07, 2012, 05:22:53 PM
Legendary staff doesn't have higher stats than exotics.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 07, 2012, 05:30:47 PM
I am pretty sure Darniaq meant exotic rather than legendary, unless he somehow accidentally did a thousand hour grind.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on November 07, 2012, 05:32:36 PM
Yea that's right. Exotic Carrion Staff is what I picked up for a relative song.

I forget all the terminology when I'm not actually seeing the words in the game. Or confusing them for WoW terms or older ones  :oh_i_see:

Edit: and yes, i alt-tabbed out of game after just logging in to clear up that error.  :wink:


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Phred on November 08, 2012, 02:50:04 AM
Mesmer is where it's at.
Sure I coulda done the Lions Arch circuit but I do still so love farming lowbie stuff on occasion. Not the same thing as taking a 50 Bard to Crushbone, but close enough  :grin:

I'm not sure that running events in the 80 zones is all that effecient anyway. It seems they scale event payouts for your level as I have yet to find a low level event that pays less than 1s20c at 80 while 80 events cap out at under 2s. But because of the terrible scaling for your level at 80 you can solo low level events insanely fast so if you can find a zone where you can chain events it's way more efficient doing low level ones than 80 ones. Except if you're after gear as most of the drops will be maximum  74 or so.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Zetor on November 08, 2012, 02:53:53 AM
If you do the Plinx circuit in cursed shore, you get 8-9k karma and ~2 gold per hour (including the level 80 drops you can sell). There's a quick summary here (http://postgamer.net/fast-way-to-get-karma-the-plinx-event-guild-wars-2/). I tried it for 10 mins once out of curiosity, and it's pretty damn efficient... and - just like any other farming activity - also pretty damn boring and grindy.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: sachiel on November 08, 2012, 03:19:30 AM
Mesmer is where it's at.
Love mesmer but still stuck on Ele. Now thinking of going D/D just to see what that style is like. Just got to Cursed Shore and though I've heard many complaints, I like it more than Malchor's so far.

D/D is super powerful 1v1 and 5v5.  Anything more than that, and I'd swap to staff.

http://www.youtube.com/user/daphoenix555?feature=g-u-u

Watch this guy's videos on D/D ele.  He's phenomenal.  He has a few where he details the build and concept.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-nfbDmfw6s&feature=plcp  I'm still gimpy D/D as well and am trying to swap out to D/D to be more versatile.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 08, 2012, 10:55:16 AM
Mesmer is where it's at.
Sure I coulda done the Lions Arch circuit but I do still so love farming lowbie stuff on occasion. Not the same thing as taking a 50 Bard to Crushbone, but close enough  :grin:

I'm not sure that running events in the 80 zones is all that effecient anyway. It seems they scale event payouts for your level as I have yet to find a low level event that pays less than 1s20c at 80 while 80 events cap out at under 2s. But because of the terrible scaling for your level at 80 you can solo low level events insanely fast so if you can find a zone where you can chain events it's way more efficient doing low level ones than 80 ones. Except if you're after gear as most of the drops will be maximum  74 or so.


Doing events for karma is inefficient in ANY zone anyway. Just play for 20 minutes a day to get your daily done.   :-P


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Venkman on November 08, 2012, 04:47:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/daphoenix555?feature=g-u-u

Watch this guy's videos on D/D ele.  He's phenomenal.  He has a few where he details the build and concept.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-nfbDmfw6s&feature=plcp  I'm still gimpy D/D as well and am trying to swap out to D/D to be more versatile.

Looks awesome!

And I got into the tale end of Plink last night. Looks Like a nice efficient chain. Did the Historian and invasion ones on the mid-east side a few times last night simply because it resets so fast.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Crumbs on November 26, 2012, 07:21:06 AM
I figured out how to get more badges in WvW while using my engineer in large group battles.  Not sure if this has been posted already but thought it might help:

When a player is downed, don't "finish them," just keep damaging them till they're dead.  AOE if you can, this is especially effective if there is a group of downed players within the AOE.  I just keep throwing grenades at the bodies and bags pop up regularly.

In 1v1 battles just finish them.  This is for large group battles in which 5-10 people are usually attempting the finish the same targets. 


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: amiable on November 28, 2012, 08:54:18 AM
I figured out how to get more badges in WvW while using my engineer in large group battles.  Not sure if this has been posted already but thought it might help:

When a player is downed, don't "finish them," just keep damaging them till they're dead.  AOE if you can, this is especially effective if there is a group of downed players within the AOE.  I just keep throwing grenades at the bodies and bags pop up regularly.

In 1v1 battles just finish them.  This is for large group battles in which 5-10 people are usually attempting the finish the same targets. 

this is my favorite part about being an engineer, as soon as you see someon go down start raining grenades upon them, you can often catch 2-3 other fools trying to help him in the crossfire.  Incredibly useful in WvW as it denies your opponents an easy way to rez.


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Zetor on November 28, 2012, 09:16:20 AM
I just use cannons to accomplish the same thing (4-5k aoe per hit every 3 or so seconds with added bleed or chill)... though it does depend on people fighting near the keep, but not actually sieging. Thankfully, both FA and YB are kind enough to oblige :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Quick things you wish you had known sooner (AUTOLOOT! Send ALL mats to bank!)
Post by: Threash on November 28, 2012, 10:43:49 AM
Yeah i cluster bomb the shit out of downed people, usually leads to 3-4 more downings during sieges.