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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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I guess we don't have a dedicated thread for this stuff? Anyways: Oculus has their preorders going up in 15 mins (8am WST). Vive announced in December that there was a major breakthrough that they will be revealing at CES this weekend that they will be implementing in all first gen devices. Some exciting stuff on the way. $600, ouch.
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« Last Edit: May 01, 2019, 10:33:55 AM by schild »
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schild
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$400 too much for me to give a shit. Also, what happens if you wear glasses?
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Goreschach
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I guess we don't have a dedicated thread for this stuff?
I was kindof hoping we would just keep it to the star citizen thread.
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Rendakor
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Yea fuck that. $600 is absurd.
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Bunk
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Try $915 all in Cdn. Fuuuuuuck
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Merusk
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$400 too much for me to give a shit. Also, what happens if you wear glasses?
Based on the Devkit we have here, you're fucked and get the lenses or the arms pressed into your face, depending on how you adjust the straps. Like the industry's attitude on broadband internet: Too bad, so sad, you're excluded.
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Bunk
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From the reviews I've heard, they've improved the interior room somewhat to account for glasses. Tried getting an actual chance to prove that at PAX this year, lol yeah, that didn't happen.
I used the Dev Kit mk2 for a while, it wasn't perfectly comfortable, but I could wear my glasses with it. I have a relatively minor astigmatism though, and was able to use it without my glasses just fine.
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Falconeer
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Who really wants to play with these first gen "janky" and super expensive devices on limited games with questionable performances? Wake me up in three years or so.
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Gimfain
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€700 before shipping costs for me.
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apocrypha
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Who really wants to play with these first gen "janky" and super expensive devices on limited games with questionable performances? Wake me up in three years or so.
This is my view, plus a dose of Schild's cynicism. I also wear glasses, I fully expect 1st gen devices to be overly expensive, uncomfortable and very quickly superseded if VR is more successful than 3D TVs were/are. Also, no need to put janky in quotes. It's a real word here on f13.
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Lucas
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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.
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Exactly, no way I'm going to purchase a "v1" of this at that price.
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Baldrake
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I just pre-ordered mine. Disappointingly expensive. And that price doesn't include the Touch sensors that do hand-tracking.
We have the DK1 and DK2. Some people put them on with their glasses and it's ok. I personally take my glasses off. I'm not sure this is as big a deal as people think.
edit: I'm not sure I consider this truly a 1st gen product since they've sold two previous generations already, both of which worked surprisingly well.
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« Last Edit: January 06, 2016, 09:21:27 AM by Baldrake »
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Trippy
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$400 too much for me to give a shit. Also, what happens if you wear glasses?
Depends on how wide the frames are and how far forward the lenses sit on your nose. My wide frames could just barely squeeze Into the non-production version I tried at GDC 2 years ago but the lenses were pushed into my face.
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Lucas
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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.
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Also, but that's a personal opinion, I would rather save a little more (considering that you have to add shipping and tax) and purchase a GTX 980ti on Amazon prime.
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schild
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Also, but that's a personal opinion, I would rather save a little more (considering that you have to add shipping and tax) and purchase a GTX 980ti on Amazon prime.
980Ti is GREAT. Do that.
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Pennilenko
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That price point turns me off completely. They can suck my balls.
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Lucas
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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.
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Also, but that's a personal opinion, I would rather save a little more (considering that you have to add shipping and tax) and purchase a GTX 980ti on Amazon prime.
980Ti is GREAT. Do that. Yeah, it's basically the best long-term purchase (also considering the quality of the product) you can do for your system right now. Actually, I upgraded my PC last April and got a Nvidia 970 (which is performing very well together with the rest of the components, no matter the "3.5GB" debate and whatnot), but it wouldn't go to waste 'cause I would pass it to my father who is going for an upgrade very soon. Anyway, slightly off topic now :)
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WayAbvPar
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I am not sure I could care any less about this. Until it is ubiquitous, useful and cheap, I will continue to not care.
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HaemishM
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As a glasses wearer who is notoriously both cheap and broke, they can eat a bag of VR dicks. Wake me up when I don't need to wear a nerd torture device around my head and can just plug it into the hole in my neck.
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Teleku
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$400 too much for me to give a shit. Also, what happens if you wear glasses?
Then wear contacts like a civilized human being!
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Trippy
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If you are very near-sighted contacts make it very difficult to focus that close in.
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HaemishM
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I have never warmed to the idea of sticking pieces of plastic directly onto my eyeball.
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Sky
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If the screens are close, wouldn't near-sighted folks be fine?
I'm interested at some point, but not launch hardware. And honestly, I'll probably want to play Euro Truck Simulator with it.
And yeah, a 980ti is a far better bang for your buck, my 970 can tear through anything at the 1080p of my tv without heating up. Love it.
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Trippy
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If the screens are close, wouldn't near-sighted folks be fine?
For some near-sighted people, if their near-sightedness is the same in both eyes. For most you'll still need to be able to adjust the "focus" for each eye independently like the diopter adjustment that better binoculars have.
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Trippy
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I have never warmed to the idea of sticking pieces of plastic directly onto my eyeball.
It's a valid concern. You do get used to poking your eye over time, though. They also usually show you, when they are teaching you how to put them in and take them out, that the whites of your eyes have no nerve endings so in beginning you can learn by putting the lens mostly on the whites of your eyes and then sliding them up to cover your cornea and then doing the reverse when taking them off. There's less risk you touch your cornea with your fingers when you do it that way.
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Malakili
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The question I still have is whether or not the direction adds anything interesting when it comes to actually playing games. I'm sure it's a cool experience and novelty, but at the end of the day I don't know that this is really how I want to be playing games all the time.
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Kail
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Like 90% of the VR specific stuff I've seen is total garbage, like Paradise Island type stuff. LIVE the EXPERIENCE of IMMERSION in a MAGICAL WORLD where THERE IS NO GAMEPLAY because IMMERSION and VIRTUAL EXPERIENCE SIMULATION WONDER WORLD DREAMS MAGICAL FANTASY hOPE PoSSiBILitY lOvE BeLiEeeeEEeEeEEeeVe If they want me to give a shit, they need to put out something that merits spending $900 on a gimmick. Otherwise this is going to be another Kinect.
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Nija
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Who really wants to play with these first gen "janky" and super expensive devices on limited games with questionable performances? Wake me up in three years or so.
I'm with you, Falc. Someone write down this date. V1 hardware is for the birds. The big story here, in my opinion, is that their own controllers are NOT included. Set sail for terrible, fragmented controller schemes since they can't guarantee adoption of anything the put out. I'll also take a guess at the price of the controller - $119.
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Viin
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Supposedly these are awesome with Elite?
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I am going to wait to try it for the first time with Star Citizen
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Rasix
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I really don't want to be even less aware of my surroundings while gaming.
This is dumb and expensive. It's the 3D TV of gaming. Although, I suppose if it becomes cheap enough (really cheap), I might try one some day.
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ezrast
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It's the motion controls of output.
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Falconeer
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The only game I would get a VR set for right now would be Euro Truck Simulator, because it's slow enough to allow me to focus on sightseeing while "playing", and because I always dreamt to be a truck driver. I doubt the device is mature enough to make real games actually fun to play beside the initial WOW! factor. Or without needing an excessive money investment to beef up your computer on top of the 600$.
I am not against these things. I am looking forward to a future full of them. In fact, I am happy some people with extra money are doing all the early testing for me. For Elite Dangerous, I'd rather get the IF tracker at the moment.
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Sky
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As someone who was into the nvidia 3d vision thing (doesn't seem to work with my mitsu set), there is something beyond a gimmick there. A few games were really, really great with 3d (Tomb Raider Underworld was stunning, in particular). As support got better, of course I upgraded my set. Want to try to see if I can make it work with the 970, as it has a lot of horsepower for 3d.
I'd rather have a good 3d setup with a properly supported game (cough Witcher 3, GTA V) on my big screen than a VR setup, but if the VR setup can deliver it, I'd consider it. Just seems like more than I'd want outside of driving/piloting games. I mean, it would be cool for GTA V 1st person, but I play that in 3rd person...
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Sky
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Also, people keep asking me to define the word jank or janky but I don't and it makes them nuts.
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