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Mrbloodworth
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Yeah, I may pick that up and just start piecing together parts over a few months. That one though, seems to have a video card built in? Or am I confused?
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Chimpy
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Yeah, I may pick that up and just start piecing together parts over a few months. That one though, seems to have a video card built in? Or am I confused?
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Mrbloodworth
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Thoughts? Shooting for a good, mid-range machine. I need another case for myself, and to double everything. We will reuse the HD's we currently have. |
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« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 12:50:45 PM by Mrbloodworth »
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Sky
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Less RAM, more Hyper 212!
Are you already running Win7?
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Mrbloodworth
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Hyper 212?
Yes, running Win 7. I need to check the lady's OS.
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Trippy
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No 16 GB RAM is good. I had 8 GB in my system but upgraded it to 16 GB cause browsers are such memory pigs. Hyper 212 is a CPU cooler. If you are going to get a Ivy Bridge chipset (the Z77) you might as well get an Ivy Bridge CPU like the the i5-3570K. That'll let you take better advantage of Z77 features like Virtu MVP.
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« Last Edit: July 24, 2012, 01:59:58 PM by Trippy »
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Mrbloodworth
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Updated CPU. They had two CPU's of that type, I went with the one with he lower built in GPU. Unless I am missing something, I will never use it.
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« Last Edit: July 24, 2012, 02:02:36 PM by Mrbloodworth »
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Chimpy
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Buy the K model unless you never ever ever plan on overclocking it.
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Thoughts? Shooting for a good, mid-range machine. I need another case for myself, and to double everything. We will reuse the HD's we currently have. That RAM is 1.65v, and you want 1.5V or less for SB/IB. Additionally, you're spending a lot more for DDR3-2133, which will only get you a little improvement relative to DDR3-1600. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy bananas-clocked RAM, just that there are better places to put that $40. Suggested replacements: 4x4GB G.Skill Ares DDR3-1600 CL9 1.5v (Orange) - $93 4x4GB G.Skill Ares DDR3-1600 CL9 1.5v (Blue) - $93 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 CL9 1.5v - $95 I'd also suggest going to a faster/more powerful card instead of the 2GB 560ti. For less than the cost of that 2GB 560, you can get a GTX570 or a 448-core 560, both of which will generally outperform a 560 pretty significantly. Also, add a CPU cooler as Sky suggested - even if you never overclock, it's worth it to replace the loud/whiny stock Intel solution with something quieter. Additionally, the CPU cooler cutout in the Phantom is ill-placed for Socket 1155, so you're going to want to put one in at the time of the initial build as opposed to later on. |
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« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 07:09:30 AM by MisterNoisy »
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Mrbloodworth
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I'm going to be finding another case. I'm told she does not care if its pink, so I'm looking for a good case for decent money with out the pink restriction.
What do you mean by "SB/IB"? I'm considering your other suggestions. Thanks! May take that mem difference and buy a cooler as suggested. Noise is definitely a concern of mine.
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« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 07:35:35 AM by Mrbloodworth »
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MisterNoisy
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I'm going to be finding another case. I'm told she does not care if its pink, so I'm looking for a good case for decent money with out the pink restriction.
What do you mean by "SB/IB"? I'm considering your other suggestions. Thanks! May take that mem difference in buy a cooler as suggested. Noise is definitely a concern of mine.
SB/IB = Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge. The Phantom is a great case to work in, but is both pretty big and a bit on the pricey side. If you're looking for something a little cheaper/smaller and/or more 'tasteful', the NZXT H2, Bitfenix Raider and Fractal Arc Midi are great choices. |
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Sky
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What is the trepidation about the cpu cooler? It's $20 and awesome. If noise is a concern, see my earlier posts about the Arctic Cooling Accelero, you will reduce your gpu fan noise to almost nil, but it's around $85, but you can get the 2 fan version for $44. I've been building computers for almost 20 years now and will never use stock gpu cooling again.
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Mrbloodworth
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Oh wow, yeah that first case you listed seems like just the thing, foam and removable dust filters. Sounds great for a house with two cats! Really good suggestion thanks! What is the trepidation about the cpu cooler?
None, just never used a 3rd party one. My only concern for the one you listed would be, its really tall! |
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MisterNoisy
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Oh wow, yeah that first case you listed seems like just the thing, foam and removable dust filters. Sounds great for a house with two cats! Really good suggestion thanks! What is the trepidation about the cpu cooler?
None, just never used a 3rd party one. My only concern for the one you listed would be, its really tall! If it helps, the Hyper 212 really sets the standard for easy mounting, and will easily fit in the NZXT H2. My brother and I installed the somewhat taller V6GT in the same case: |
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Mrbloodworth
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That does help. That's a big bastard you have in there.
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Chimpy
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One of today's shell shockers is a 2x8GB GSkill kit for $90. (can't paste link as I am posting on my phone and looking at newegg on the computer)
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If it helps, the Hyper 212 really sets the standard for easy mounting I'd like to second that. It's the only CPU/Cooler installation that didn't leave me ready to scream. |
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Mrbloodworth
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Updated with recommendations. Who makes good small SSD's? I want to put an SSD in for the OS. |
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« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 01:13:59 PM by Mrbloodworth »
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MisterNoisy
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Updated with recommendations. Who makes good small SSD's? I want to put an SSD in for the OS. Change the processor to a 3570K so that you can overclock (it's trivially easy on SB/IB and amounts to a 'free' proc upgrade). Additionally, I'd recommend the lower profile memory like the G.Skill Ares/Vengeance Low-Profile I linked earlier, since taller heat spreaders can interfere with big CPU coolers. The Hyper 212 does give you some wiggle room for taller RAM (you just clip the front fan on a bit higher), but if you're filling all four slots, you'll probably want something shorter. Everyone's recommending the Samsung 830 and Crucial M4 SSDs currently - I've been quite happy with my M4. |
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« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 01:10:33 PM by MisterNoisy »
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Mrbloodworth
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Not sure what happened there, but it looks like you quoted the wrong thing? Check the Video card I changed.
Added SSD. Also, 1k is my cut off. So, additional tweaking with out breaking the price is where I am at now ( Like the ram profile ). I'm not really concerned with overclocking, is it REALLY something I would notice?
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« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 01:17:22 PM by Mrbloodworth »
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MisterNoisy
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Not sure what happened there, but it looks like you quoted the wrong thing? Check the Video card I changed.
Added SSD. Also, 1k is my cut off. So, additional tweaking with out breaking the price is where I am at now ( Like the ram profile ). I'm not really concerned with overclocking, is it REALLY something I would notice?
Depending on the task/activity, it's possible. I'm of the feeling that it's something that I'd rather be able to do if I chose, particularly since the price premium is pretty negligible. |
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I'm not really concerned with overclocking, is it REALLY something I would notice?
Well you are going to be GPU bound with that build (unless you run at very low resolutions) so probably not (or not as much). However if you plan on upgrading your GPU during the lifetime of that system you might wish to be able to overclock the CPU. |
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Chimpy
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'Reality' is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes.
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MisterNoisy
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Bloodworth: If you haven't ordered your case(s) by now, you can use coupon code 'NZXT727' to get 20% off at Newegg.
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« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 06:49:16 AM by MisterNoisy »
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Mrbloodworth
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Ordered! ( x 2 )
Saved about 100$ on promo codes alone, that took it back down around the 900$ marks. Really appreciate all the help people.
Thanks!
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Segoris
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Could use a little help. I've almost picked out the build I'll be ordering. I'm shopping at mwave.com for two reasons 1)I'm one of the rare people to have not so great experiences with newegg (lots of DOA parts), 2) mwave will do assembly/testing/driver updates/os install/better wire management/basically test everything and replace anything that is bad/etc for $80, that is worth it to me (especially since the same parts at newegg are almost $60 more at the time of this posting due to a low price on the HDD at mwave, without rebates counted which swing more in mwave's favor at this moment iirc it basically pays for itself). I'm missing a video card and could use someone to look over what I've selected and make sure it seems solid (motherboard too please). I'll add an SSD later as I'd rather have a better video card now. Intel BX80637I53570K Core i5 3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4 GHz Socket 1155 77W Quad-core Desktop Processor $229.99
NZXT CS-NT-H2-B Black Steel H2 Classic ATX Mid Tower 3/0/(8) Bay USB Computer Case $84.99
Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE Black SATA 22X Dual Layer Internal DVDRW / DVD Drive $18.29
Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus $21.99
WESTERN DIGITAL WD2002FAEX Cavier Black 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive -AA78161 $129.95
Corsair XMS3 16 GB (4 x 4 GB) - 1333 MHz DDR3-1333/PC3-10666 - Non-ECC - Unbuffered - 240-pin DIMM -$110.80
Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H - LGA1155 Intel Z77 Chipset ATX Motherboard, DDR3, DVI/VGA/HDMI, Gigabit LAN, PCIE3.0, USB3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, CrossFireX, 7.1CH HD Audio $129.99
Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2 Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 Plus Bronze Certified Active PFC High Performance 750W Power Supply $108.99
Microsoft GFC-02050 Windows 7 Home Premium 64BIT English DSP OEM 1-Pack $99.99 I'd like to keep the video card around $350 if possible, and am not sure if bumping that up to about $400/$450 is worth it. Basically, is the improved performance of a 7970 or 670/680 over a 7950/570fermi worth the $100+. I'll be looking up some reviews/tests, but if anyone knows offhand if the 7970/680/670 are only 5% increase in performance, or 30%+ for that $100 or so that would be helpful Mostly using this for gaming (TSW/GW2) and mediapr0n  Updated ram to 1.5v |
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« Last Edit: August 02, 2012, 11:31:22 AM by Segoris »
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What screen resolution do you run your games at?
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Sky
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Maybe cut back the drive to 1TB (how much porn you got dude?), take the 570/whatever and put in an SSD for the system/game drive?
I've used mwave.com for a couple things when newegg has been out of stock and they were good to deal with, shipping was slower but newegg is gonzo with shipping speed.
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I'm not sure how much of a graphics hog either TSW or GW2 is, but I can tell you that my 570 runs things like SWTOR and Skyrim at 2560x1440 at basically highest settings. Occasionally have to turn down AA, but I do that a lot anyway because I prefer higher framerates (and AA becomes increasingly less important at resolutions that high). I seriously doubt that my experience would be significantly better with one of the bleeding edge 6 series cards. Not 100 bucks better. If money were no issue, then sure.
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Kingston KHX1600C9D3K4/16GX HyperX 16GB ( 4GB x 4 ) 240-pin DDR3 1600mhz non-ECC desktop memory module (*Supercharged) $112.99
That memory is 1.65v. Find a 1.5v kit with similar specs. Otherwise, it seems fine. |
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Segoris
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Little late getting back here, thanks for the replies What screen resolution do you run your games at?
1900x1200 Maybe cut back the drive to 1TB (how much porn you got dude?), take the 570/whatever and put in an SSD for the system/game drive?
I've used mwave.com for a couple things when newegg has been out of stock and they were good to deal with, shipping was slower but newegg is gonzo with shipping speed.
I currently am at 2tb on my PC and it's just enough with about 500gb room. TV/Movies/Music/lots of games, yes some porn of course but not much. And the 2tb wasn't much more price wise then the 1tb at all ($20 more for double the size on mwave). Though, I also would like to start having some room for recording pvp fights and what not. As for newegg shipping, it's awful for me, which is another reason that I'm not as attached to Newegg as others are. I'm not sure how much of a graphics hog either TSW or GW2 is, but I can tell you that my 570 runs things like SWTOR and Skyrim at 2560x1440 at basically highest settings. Occasionally have to turn down AA, but I do that a lot anyway because I prefer higher framerates (and AA becomes increasingly less important at resolutions that high). I seriously doubt that my experience would be significantly better with one of the bleeding edge 6 series cards. Not 100 bucks better. If money were no issue, then sure.
At a higher resolution and still running games smoothly is awesome, and is great to hear. That memory is 1.65v. Find a 1.5v kit with similar specs. Otherwise, it seems fine.
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« Last Edit: August 02, 2012, 11:31:53 AM by Segoris »
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Anyone have any thoughts (other than build it yourself, you moron) about a hybrid service like AVADirect (or can you recommend better)?
I like the concept of specifying the exact configuration and components, but am willing to pay a (reasonable) fee to have it built and tested.
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