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Reply #910 on: October 18, 2015, 09:43:44 AM

Official movie poster is out and it looks like Rey will be taking the dark side turn for sure in later movies.

edit to add the actual image.   http://i.imgur.com/b5Tf96Y.jpg

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Reply #911 on: October 18, 2015, 10:05:41 AM

I suppose we are supposeed to get excited and speculate about why there is no Luke in the picture.

Nope, don't care much.

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Reply #912 on: October 18, 2015, 10:52:08 AM


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Reply #913 on: October 18, 2015, 11:18:52 AM

Leia's looking at Han like she's wondering if he should be out of the nursing home.

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Reply #914 on: October 18, 2015, 01:06:05 PM

Another Death Star?   Facepalm
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Reply #915 on: October 18, 2015, 03:08:10 PM

Another Death Star?   Facepalm

Yeah, that was my thought too.
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Reply #916 on: October 18, 2015, 04:57:10 PM

From what I've seen online it's something from the EU? I haven't researched much but the word is it's called a star killer and is actually that ice planet the first order are on, except cut in half with a sun destroying weapon inside.

Yes another death star sounds dumb at face value but if you are trying to take over a galaxy, building a weapon capable of taking out entire solar systems isn't a bad way to get shit done.

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Reply #917 on: October 18, 2015, 05:04:30 PM

In story terms, I can see why we'd all say, "Ah, not another one". But look at it this way: when we built an atomic bomb, we didn't exactly say, "Oh, well, that makes for boring wars, let's get rid of it." The stupid thing about a lot of pulp stories and comic books is in fact when the villains abandon a sure-fire winner of a scheme just because their super-duper dingus gets beat or blown up once.

Once you knew you could build a thing like that, you'd do it again unless: 1) it fueled so much opposition that you couldn't stay in power; 2) it's so crazy expensive that you can only build it once or maybe twice; 3) it doesn't work right really (like, it has an unshielded exhaust port); 4) the other guys have one too so you can't really use it without Mutually Assured Destruction.

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Reply #918 on: October 18, 2015, 07:10:55 PM

I'm not really sure you can logic your way into this one though, if you start applying that kind of reasoning to Star Wars plots I imagine you're going to go insane staring into the void.
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Reply #919 on: October 18, 2015, 07:11:11 PM

Not another Death Star, Starkiller Base. Apparently it's literally a star destroyer.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #920 on: October 18, 2015, 07:27:57 PM

Battleships sink, all the time, through poor design or negligence or any number of reasons. It doesn't mean you stop making them.

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Reply #921 on: October 19, 2015, 01:21:45 AM

I stopped making them once Bay started filming them.

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Reply #922 on: October 19, 2015, 07:08:00 PM

Battleships sink, all the time, through poor design or negligence or any number of reasons. It doesn't mean you stop making them.

Well, yeah, everyone sort of did stop making them. We even stopped making them and using the ones we kept in service just to slap our dick in the face of everyone that we could destroy their country with shit we had left over from WW2.

Death Star scale weapons are dumb, even in Star Wars. The resources that went into them could build a fuckzillion Star Destroyers, which would do a much better job of projecting power, in more places, all at the same time.

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Reply #923 on: October 19, 2015, 07:10:13 PM

The resources that went into them could build a fuckzillion Star Destroyers, which would do a much better job of projecting power, in more places, all at the same time.

I should have prefaced battleship with "during the world wars" when they were in use but the analogy stands. Also we can only assume what it costs to build a star killer vs star destroyer or what the pros/cons would actually be, that part is all scifi speculation.

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Reply #924 on: October 19, 2015, 07:17:06 PM

True, but the equivalent of battleships here would again be Star Destroyers. Death Star/Star killer level stuff goes way past Schwerer Gustav levels of wastage into Ratte and pykrete supercarrier levels of waste.

Don't get me wrong, I think they're all awesome. They're just sort of dumb when you compare what else you could build with that time, material, and manpower.

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Reply #925 on: October 19, 2015, 07:18:21 PM

stupid discussion.

Lets watch the new trailer instead!

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Reply #926 on: October 19, 2015, 07:20:22 PM

Yeah, but.... The Iowa Class were obsolete even before they were built, never engaged other ships directly, yet we not only built a bunch of them but kept them in service for an extra 30-40 years, updating the electronics as we went. Because they were impressive as *fuck*, you sailed one of those into a harbor you had the undivided attention of everyone in it, and they didn't need an entire fleet of escorts like carriers did.

The Death Star was a terror weapon, intended to be so scary that it would keep the Empire in line. That's why they blew up Alderaan, remember? Because Yavin was too far out of the way too serve as a proper example of the capabilities of the Death Star, even though they were planning on blowing it up, they needed something that would make rebel sympathizers a little less welcome on marginal worlds.

The Empire didn't stop needing people to be scared of them just because their first was blown up. And it's unlikely the one they used as a honeypot at Endor would have been the only doomsday weapon they had in the pipeline, and what is even scarier than a weapon that blows up worlds?

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Reply #927 on: October 19, 2015, 07:23:11 PM


Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Reply #928 on: October 19, 2015, 07:24:50 PM

That fucking music....I can't stop myself from getting hyped, I tried and I failed.

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Reply #929 on: October 19, 2015, 07:27:25 PM

I'm all atwitter.

Managed to buy 2d tickets to opening night. Imax sold out long before I could get through on the melting websites.

Goddamnit. 59 days.

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Reply #930 on: October 19, 2015, 07:30:50 PM

Just saw the new trailer via MNF.  Meh, it was ok.  The whole movie still feels like an Abrams tweener flick though.  Really, only 1/2 SW movies were made for somewhat mature audiences.  Do we really need more kiddie pandering?   Especially for a reboot?  Lame.

edit:  All the movie sites are slammed.  Can't even buy tix.
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Reply #931 on: October 19, 2015, 07:35:27 PM

Just saw the new trailer via MNF.  Meh, it was ok.  The whole movie still feels like an Abrams tweener flick though.  Really, only 1/2 SW movies were made for somewhat mature audiences.  Do we really need more kiddie pandering?   Especially for a reboot?  Lame.

Wat.

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Reply #932 on: October 19, 2015, 07:43:19 PM

Well, since I probably won't be able to see this for the first couple of weeks, obviously the rational thing to do is turn off the internet, to avoid spoilers. Probably need some kind of device to limit hearing and vision, too.



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Reply #933 on: October 19, 2015, 07:50:25 PM

"Just let it in..."

I'm so fucking hyped.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #934 on: October 19, 2015, 07:51:56 PM

May the hype be with you... always.
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Reply #935 on: October 19, 2015, 07:58:38 PM

About 1:23 to 1:39 feels really epic. Music especially.
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Reply #936 on: October 19, 2015, 08:01:50 PM

The upside of being in Central California for the holidays is that I got tickets for the following Sunday in IMAX 3D no problem.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #937 on: October 19, 2015, 08:17:18 PM

About 1:23 to 1:39 feels really epic. Music especially.


Aye.  Not the first time I wished whoever made trailers got to direct.


We will see.  I just want it not to suck.  I'm sure there will be lots of deaths and some cringing...  I just hope this new Star Wars doesn't end up like the new Dr.Who.
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Reply #938 on: October 19, 2015, 08:51:35 PM

The official trailer was much better than any of the teasers have been.  I still refuse to get excited about seeing either a JJ movie or a Star Wars movie in the theater, but I will definitely be watching this on Netflix at least.

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Reply #939 on: October 20, 2015, 03:26:50 AM

Why did I open this thread, why.
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Reply #940 on: October 20, 2015, 04:02:02 AM

Why did I open this thread, why.

Just let it in.  why so serious?

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Reply #941 on: October 20, 2015, 05:36:14 AM

The official trailer was much better than any of the teasers have been.  I still refuse to get excited about seeing either a JJ movie or a Star Wars movie in the theater, but I will definitely be watching this on Netflix at least.

I'm with ya. I can't see any of these new movies coming out living up to the hype. It's still a JJ Abrams directed film. Might still be cautious to the horror that were the prequels.

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Reply #942 on: October 20, 2015, 05:47:40 AM

The official trailer was much better than any of the teasers have been.  I still refuse to get excited about seeing either a JJ movie or a Star Wars movie in the theater, but I will definitely be watching this on Netflix at least.

I'm with ya. I can't see any of these new movies coming out living up to the hype. It's still a JJ Abrams directed film. Might still be cautious to the horror that were the prequels.

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Reply #943 on: October 20, 2015, 07:21:41 AM

Actors watch the trailer. Boyega's reaction is the best

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Reply #944 on: October 20, 2015, 07:40:30 AM

No comments on the boycott movement? That seems like perfect f13 rage fodder.

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