angry.bob
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I see WG is as skilled at balancing boats as they are at tanks. The more I see from them, the more I am amazed that WoT is such a playable, interesting game.
It's not. It just came first and got the community and fan loyalty that comes with that. In all other aspects they're 3rd in a field of 3 tank games. And one of those is in closed beta.
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Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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tazelbain
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I though external anti-cheat was standard these days.
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"Me am play gods"
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Trippy
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Only for Asian online games/MMOs.
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angry.bob
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We're no strangers to love. You know the rules and so do I.
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THey already had pretty much this exact same mod before and said it was legal since it only assisted in aiming and didn't aim or fire for you.
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Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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Sir T
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Didn't people scream a lot at that statement and the changed the code to make it 'impossible'?
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Hic sunt dracones.
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disKret
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Didn't people scream a lot at that statement and the changed the code to make it 'impossible'?
They did - encrypting the resources and transmission which stoped old aimbot. For this one they can do shit - anyway looks like they can do shit.
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Ginaz
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I saw a few of the new German cruisers being tested in game last night, the T7 Yorck and the T5 Konigsberg. Whoever WG had playing them was pretty bad, which is par for the course for the "skill" of WG staff playing their own games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C39c_-Ytwz4
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Sir T
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Warspite is back on the EU servers at least. For 5 days.
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Ginaz
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I managed to get the Fuso and Myoko this weekend and I'm pretty pleased with both of them. Each one feels like an upgrade from the previous tier which is great because both the Kongo and Aoba are good ships.
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Setanta
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I managed to get the Fuso and Myoko this weekend and I'm pretty pleased with both of them. Each one feels like an upgrade from the previous tier which is great because both the Kongo and Aoba are good ships.
I'm grinding through Colorado upgrades - it's so different to playing New Mexico but I'm not yet convinced it's as bad as people make out. It seems to take a lot of damage and dish it out up close. It's still a step backward from the Mex though. On my SEA account I'm angling towards Fuso now.
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"No man is an island. But if you strap a bunch of dead guys together it makes a damn fine raft."
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Pendan
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I have been just playing a few games each weekend with the bonus X2. I had only lost 1 of first 25 games in PvE. This weekend on Sunday I lost 7 of 11 games played in PvE. Was in top 3 in damage dealt in every loss. One of the losses I had more damage than rest of team combined. It was a really sad day and from what I could tell was different players in every game.
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Engels
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What is this PVE of which you speak?
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
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Bungee
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What is this PVE of which you speak?
Co-op mode. Team of players vs bots with exactly the same ships as the players.
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Freedom is the raid target. -tazelbain
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Merusk
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And you feel like total, utter shit when you lose. Weekends during beta were, for me, exactly what Pendan describes. I couldn't fathom it, because the bots are just so terrible. I'm convinced people were just logging in and running at the other team via. a lame bot or script. Xp while asleep > no xp while asleep, after all.
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Tmon
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I can see using PVE to maybe experiment with a new ship but the XP and credits are so low that a loss in PVP is more lucrative.
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Merusk
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Right, but who's more likely to report botters.
My thoughts, at least.
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Tmon
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Right, but who's more likely to report botters.
My thoughts, at least.
Makes sense, especially if people are doing it to level up and sell accounts.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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Well if you are not all that great, you get more XP per hour playing against bots than other players. Bot game is done at most in 10 minutes, playing PvP + not very good + being on with vrey good players = very few shots on target, little to no kills, little to no xp and not enough coin to cover repairs.
or else sleepwalk thru a bot match for 1/3 xp of a good player in a PvP match that could last twice as long with you being dead for 2/3s of it.
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Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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Tmon
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I think beyond learning the basic functions of shooting, launching torpedoes and managing air groups you are better off playing PVP no matter how fast you die. Here's the basic stats from someone I know who has never used premium time, has a beta Arkansas but no other premium ships, has played the Japanese BB, CA and DD lines to tier 3 plus tier 3 in the US DD line. He complains frequently that he is killed before he can do any serious damage in PVP. Based on his average xp he'd still be doing better XP wise to play pvp, even if he was only getting in 3 pvp games per hour vs 6 PVE.
PVP 51% WR avg xp 491 avg damage 18k avg tier 3.1 PVE 94% WR avg xp 239 avg damage 30k avg tier 3.6
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Sir T
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There is another non obvious function for pve though. If you have had 3 or 4 utter shit games and you are starting to feel like raging, you can drop into your favorite ship pr ships and go into a few stress free, fun games against bots to clear your head and chillax.
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Hic sunt dracones.
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satael
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Or maybe botting&losing your way through PVE won't affect your stats (like PVP would)?
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Tmon
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Or maybe botting&losing your way through PVE won't affect your stats (like PVP would)? True, but you would think that any account with a lower win rate in pve than pvp would be an automatic bot flag.
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Nebu
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There is another non obvious function for pve though. If you have had 3 or 4 utter shit games and you are starting to feel like raging, you can drop into your favorite ship pr ships and go into a few stress free, fun games against bots to clear your head and chillax.
I'm surprised this game even has a PvE mode. This is the most relaxed and low key PvP game I've ever played.
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Sir T
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Or maybe botting&losing your way through PVE won't affect your stats (like PVP would)? You can see peoples PVE stats and ranked battle stats.
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Hic sunt dracones.
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Setanta
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There is another non obvious function for pve though. If you have had 3 or 4 utter shit games and you are starting to feel like raging, you can drop into your favorite ship pr ships and go into a few stress free, fun games against bots to clear your head and chillax.
I'm surprised this game even has a PvE mode. This is the most relaxed and low key PvP game I've ever played. It's one of the bigger selling points for me and why I can't get into WoT. This way if I want a bit of fun or to refine my skill with a ship (eg getting a feel for trajectory/leading aim etc) without wrecking someone else's game. I also get a reward (albeit significantly smaller than PvP) or doing so. Yes you can lose if your team goes full retard, but it's rare. Also, a 1.5x win in PvE can equal a regular loss in PvP. So I can grind through my elite ships (my SEA account has every ship to T5) and then jump into some PvP if I feel like it. If WG brought this to WoT I'd be more interested in playing it.
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tmp
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I think beyond learning the basic functions of shooting, launching torpedoes and managing air groups you are better off playing PVP no matter how fast you die. That's the case in my experience. I actually made a mistake of playing something like 50+ pve games first, before having a peek at the PvP part, and the xp is way, way faster in PvP even if you and/or your team completely fails. I suppose it does make it somewhat easier to figure out how much you'd want to lead the targets when shooting them, and when to shoot them etc, but other than that it's probably best left ignored.
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Brolan
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WoT was rather relaxed in the beginning as well. That was before win rate and stats became the gods the hardcore worship.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Setanta
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Warspite package up for sale on the Asia server - grabbed it straight away. No sign of it on US though :(
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"No man is an island. But if you strap a bunch of dead guys together it makes a damn fine raft."
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Ginaz
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New German cruisers and Soviet destroyers are now in game. I'm really starting to like the T5 German cruiser Konisberg. In 8 games I'm averaging over 46k damage, with a high of almost 64k, and have sunk 9 ships. On the other hand, I'm really not digging the Soviet DD line. 3 Km torps? Under 10 Km gun range? Garbage so far.
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tmp
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On the other hand, I'm really not digging the Soviet DD line. 3 Km torps? Under 10 Km gun range? Garbage so far.
They have 10km gun range in tiers where you rarely see other ships break 8-9. Upper tiers they're very much like the American destroyers in this regard, and as such hardly garbage. Configured for range/concealment you can basically rain fire on people the entire match as you please, never even seen.
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Pococurante
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I'm surprised this game even has a PvE mode. This is the most relaxed and low key PvP game I've ever played.
My mileage has varried. AFK/leeching, no screening, groups that come in and talk to no one what for everyone to do their job and die, then move in. I like the game a lot. I imagine this will shake out as people go into OOG guilds. It's been a nice break from STO.
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Tmon
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« Last Edit: November 02, 2015, 12:37:58 PM by Tmon »
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hal1
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I gotta say I like this game. I totaly blow goats at it but I like the way it was developed. And I'm not a fps kinda guy but the pacing here is great.
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Tmon
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