Marvel Universe (Thar be spoilers ahead.)

[jgsugden]

We've already seen Adam Warlock - if you looked carefully and knew what you were seeing.  Think 80s geriatric movie...

Oh, and about that conversation we all had back in September where I said Daredevil, Heroes for Hire and Jessica Jones were in development and you thought I was crazy... we were both right.

[Velorath]

We've already seen Adam Warlock - if you looked carefully and knew what you were seeing.  Think 80s geriatric movie...

Oh, and about that conversation we all had back in September where I said Daredevil, Heroes for Hire and Jessica Jones were in development and you thought I was crazy... we were both right.

You mean the conversation back in this thread? The one that was actually about the rumors of an Agent Carter TV series that had nothing to do with you mentioning that there were rumors of those other shows also? In fact would this be the same conversation where you said "While I think they have a number of series in similar stages of development, the coverage of this story does note that they've elevated the situation to having someone write a pilot." indicating that you thought an Agent Carter TV show was further along than some of these other rumored shows? I mean you realize we can click back a couple pages and actually reread the conversation right?

[jgsugden]

So looks like there is an Agent Carter TV show in the works now.  Marvel is pretty busy.

I'm not so sure on this rumor - the equivalent tales have flown around for Jessica Jones, as well as some rumors for Heroes for Hire, Daredevil and a few other properties.  I am betting there will be a second Marvel Universe series, but I don't think Agent Carter is an appreciable front runner to be the Wonderland to SHIELD's Once Upon a Time.  Heck, I'm betting they have 6 to 10 series at similar levels of development.  

Of course, if they follow the original idea for Wonderland as a limited run counterpoint for Once Upon a Time, Agent Carter would make a lot of sense - Agent Carter during the days SHIELD gets off the ground in an 8 episode miniseries would make a lot of sense as a way to bridge the summer gap between Season 1 and 2 of SHIELD.  An approach like that - 8 to 10 episode stand alone tales in the MCU focusing on secondary film characters (War Machine, Loki, Thunderbolt Ross, Warriors Three, Nova, etc...) or other 2nd and 3rd tier characters (Heroes for Hire, Jessica Jones, Punisher, Blade, Runaways, Power Pack, etc...) makes a lot of sense.  You could get A list talent to commit to those roles if they know it is limited and that there might be movies to come.  

I said I was crazy.

[Raguel]

I forgot to mention how worried Del Toro's take on the Collector scares me.    People say this guy can act but I just don't see it.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I forgot to mention how worried Del Toro's take on the Collector scares me.    People say this guy can act but I just don't see it.

Don't be insane.  Del Toro is a great actor with just as much range as say a Sean Connery, Nicolas Cage or even a Tom Cruise.

[Bunk]

I don't think the studio is to worried about his take on the character, considering that 99.99% of the viewing public will have no idea who the character is.

I was a 35 comic a month guy in the late 80's/early 90's and I barely remember him.

[Khaldun]

In the meantime, David Goyer is reportedly writing some side script treatments to go along with Batman v. Superman that includes films built around Booster Gold, Team 7, Suicide Squad and Deathstroke. The Team 7 one is especially laughable, as it's one of the biggest flops of the New 52 (that's saying something) and makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever if your film is not set in a universe absolutely crowded with spandex heroes. http://www.firstshowing.net/2013/david-goyer-developing-dc-comics-films-like-suicide-squad-more/


I think Marvel can rest pretty easy.
 

[Father mike]

In the meantime, David Goyer is reportedly writing some side script treatments to go along with Batman v. Superman that includes films built around Booster Gold, Team 7, Suicide Squad and Deathstroke.

I know absolutely nothing else about the character, but the Booster Gold episode of Justice League Unlimited remains one of my favorites.  If they had put Ryan Reynolds  in a movie based on the JLU character instead of in Green Lantern, I would have watched the hell out of that.

[RhyssaFireheart]

In the meantime, David Goyer is reportedly writing some side script treatments to go along with Batman v. Superman that includes films built around Booster Gold, Team 7, Suicide Squad and Deathstroke.

I know absolutely nothing else about the character, but the Booster Gold episode of Justice League Unlimited remains one of my favorites.  If they had put Ryan Reynolds  in a movie based on the JLU character instead of in Green Lantern, I would have watched the hell out of that.

Oh yeah, Ryan Reynolds as Booster Gold would have been golden perfect.

[sickrubik]

This thread is weird. Del Toro is great.

[Raguel]

I don't think the studio is to worried about his take on the character, considering that 99.99% of the viewing public will have no idea who the character is.

I was a 35 comic a month guy in the late 80's/early 90's and I barely remember him.

Well the Collector is a minor character. I'm concerned though that the overall movie will be campy.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I don't think the studio is to worried about his take on the character, considering that 99.99% of the viewing public will have no idea who the character is.

I was a 35 comic a month guy in the late 80's/early 90's and I barely remember him.

Well the Collector is a minor character. I'm concerned though that the overall movie will be campy.

Pretty sure from day 1 that is what they have said they were going for.  Perhaps the word campy was not used but certainly an action/comedy.

[Raguel]

I can deal with action/comedy. You can argue that most of the Marvel films are action/comedy. "Adam West campy" is what I thought when I saw Del Toro.

[jgsugden]

IM III was pretty much a combination of IM II and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.   It was a Shane Black film in the MCU.

I have a feeling we'll get the same type of thing from GotG: A James Gunn film in the MCU.  If you want an idea of what this film is going to end up being, look to Dawn of the Dead, Slither and Super for guidance. 

[sickrubik]

IM III was pretty much a combination of IM II and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.   It was a Shane Black film in the MCU.

I have a feeling we'll get the same type of thing from GotG: A James Gunn film in the MCU.  If you want an idea of what this film is going to end up being, look to Dawn of the Dead, Slither and Super for guidance. 

I'm not sure I agree with the Dawn of the Dead bit. He only wrote that one. And I wouldn't say that it was the script that was the best part of that one. Slither and Super are both great. But more notably, Gunn got his start with Troma, to get the idea of what his style is. It will have some camp, which is not bad if it's done well. I mean, it has a raccoon with a machine gun. You can't do something like GoG straight up.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I expect, nay demand at least one yiffing joke.

[Khaldun]

I think they're going camp, if not Adam West camp, and that it should be fun. I don't think you can play it safe if you're making a movie with a space raccoon, a giant tree-alien, two green people with knives and a guy who calls himself Star-Lord.

[eldaec]

You would think not, but its not long ago that studio execs spent millions on a humourless Green Lantern film. They even hired Ryan fricking Reynolds, and not for a joke or anything.

[sickrubik]

Ryan Reynolds was NOT the problem with that movie, even by a longshot. And hell, I didn't hate GL as most did.

[HaemishM]

Ryan Reynolds was NOT the problem with that movie, even by a longshot. And hell, I didn't hate GL as most did.

This. Green Lantern wasn't a terrible movie by any stretch of the imagination. It just wasn't as good as it could or should have been. And Ryan Reynolds was absolutely not the problem with that movie.

[Raguel]

I don't have a problem with the movie as long as I pretend Ryan is Kyle Rayner  (a character I don't own a comic featuring). I just don't think he's a good Hal.

[Evildrider]

Reynolds would have made a superb Guy Gardner.

[Sir T]

I'll just leave this here for completeness on the "comic book hero" genre. This was back in July but its the first time I've seen it.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/07/23/gina-carano-is-taking-avengelyne-to-the-big-screen

Gina Carano is Taking Avengelyne to the Big Screen

MMA fighter turned actress Gina Carano is set to play the eponymous character in the big screen adaptation of Rob Liefeld's comic book series Avengelyne.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Carano and Liefeld are "re-conceiving" and "rebuilding" the title as a vehicle for the actress, and the proposed film(s) will carry a tone akin to Kate Beckinsale's pulpy Underworld franchise. For those unfamiliar with the Image comic book series, it centers around a fallen angel who now fights demons on Earth using her considerable super strength.

[sickrubik]

What does that have to do with the Marvel Universe?

[jgsugden]

What does that have to do with the Marvel Universe?

Perhaps confusion with Angela?

[Sir T]

Same thing as the Green lantern. And I wasn't about to make a new thread based on that.

[Nevermore]

Rob Liefeld

Does that mean every shot of every character will only be from the knee on up and they'll cgi in the jelly-like spines?

[sickrubik]

My favorite Leifeld is still the following, which is even on topic.

[Nevermore]

Is it sad that I didn't even have to click that to know exactly which picture it was?  

Edit: Instead of going off on Leifeld mocking for the next three pages, I'll just link this.  Yes, it is where I got the pic I linked but there is so much more there.   

[Sir T]

I like the one with the Torch making tender missionary position love to the Thing.

[Merusk]

that whole article was fantastic. Thank you so much.  I'm happy to know I wasn't the only one who thought the comic art of the 90s was bullshit, largely because of ALL OF THAT being replicated by every artist.

[RhyssaFireheart]

Oh that Liefeld rant was beautiful!   

[Teleku]

I........sorry.  Some of it was funny, but a lot of it felt like they were really stretching for shit to complain about.  Maybe its because that's what I grew up with, but a lot of that looked perfectly fine.  Its style choices, and a lot of the little nitty gritty things they dinged him on for much of that I could do the same with pretty much every other comic book artist ever.  I actually like a lot of the 90's style artwork, unrealistic as it (but not a lot of comic artists have ever really tried to go for ultra realistic, which seems to be the only thing they will accept).

[jgsugden]

I don't know... I would enjoy seeing a Leifeld inked animated movie. It'd be great stoned.

[sickrubik]

I........sorry.  Some of it was funny, but a lot of it felt like they were really stretching for shit to complain about.  Maybe its because that's what I grew up with, but a lot of that looked perfectly fine.  Its style choices, and a lot of the little nitty gritty things they dinged him on for much of that I could do the same with pretty much every other comic book artist ever.  I actually like a lot of the 90's style artwork, unrealistic as it (but not a lot of comic artists have ever really tried to go for ultra realistic, which seems to be the only thing they will accept).

No.