Signe
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Poor Marc Jacobs. Everyone picks on him. This is one of those weekend beta "events", no?
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Paelos
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Poor Marc Jacobs. Everyone picks on him. This is one of those weekend beta "events", no?
It is. Per the NDA you're not supposed to divulge your beta invite status. Thus the wishy-washy. And yes, for all the questions about NDAs, they are taken very seriously on this forum. |
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Mithas
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Were you around for the halcyon days when Mark Jacobs posted in our Warhammer forums defending WHO and was savaged so thoroughly and so completely he probably still flinches at the thought of F13? Good times...
I went back and read a few pages of that thread. I had forgotten he edited out all his posts. That was fun. |
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Nebu
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And yes, for all the questions about NDAs, they are taken very seriously on this forum.
I have great respect for developers that are secure enough about the quality of their game to drop their NDA after alpha. Just saying. |
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Paelos
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I do too. I pretty much won't play any MMO that I didn't beta, or had an NDA up to release.
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Anyone who enforces a late beta NDA is hiding something. Usually the fact that their game is a flaming bag of dogshit.
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Mrbloodworth
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I Just want to know, how much typical MMO underpinnings does this have. I'm guessing 100%.
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Hawkbit
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iirc, Jacobs was the one that put out the NDA-drop timeline. I've a terrible memory, it went like:
10 weeks+ to launch: game is awesome
6-10wks: game questionable
4wks: game is crap
launch drop: etc...
Or am I mis-remembering something?
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Lantyssa
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That was the beauty of it.
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Ingmar
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I Just want to know, how much typical MMO underpinnings does this have. I'm guessing 100%.
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Bhazrak
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Looks like I'll get to try it as well. It may be not be in the same vein as a typical Elder Scrolls game, but I think I'll have fun with it considering how much I enjoy the series itself.
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I Just want to know, how much typical MMO underpinnings does this have. I'm guessing 100%.
My hope is that you hate it because that probably means I'll like it. |
When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
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ezrast
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Is this a forum where you can get banned for NDA breaks or is it just frowned upon?
I think it depends on whether it is a (semi) serious developer or Brad McQuaid's/Richard Garriot's latest pile of fail. Serious stuff will be deleted, other things may be deleted,but may be kept depending on the amusement value. I feel like this question gets asked, and gets this incorrect answer, every time a game goes under NDA. It's been right there at the top of the forum for five years now. The winkwinknudgenudge stuff probably won't get you banned but is guaranteed to annoy Trippy. As far as I know there has only ever been one exception, which was due to someone at Funcom pissing in Schild's corn flakes, and only lasted a couple days. it has nothing to do with the "legitimacy" of the developer, as if that's even a thing. |
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amiable
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Is this a forum where you can get banned for NDA breaks or is it just frowned upon?
I think it depends on whether it is a (semi) serious developer or Brad McQuaid's/Richard Garriot's latest pile of fail. Serious stuff will be deleted, other things may be deleted,but may be kept depending on the amusement value. I feel like this question gets asked, and gets this incorrect answer, every time a game goes under NDA. It's been right there at the top of the forum for five years now. The winkwinknudgenudge stuff probably won't get you banned but is guaranteed to annoy Trippy. On the bright side I didn't include he-who-must-not-be named in my list! As far as I know there has only ever been one exception, which was due to someone at Funcom pissing in Schild's corn flakes, and only lasted a couple days. it has nothing to do with the "legitimacy" of the developer, as if that's even a thing. I'm not sure if it is clear that I meant that as a jokey response. I understand the official forum policy, apologies to Trippy if that post caused him heartburn. |
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schild
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iirc, Jacobs was the one that put out the NDA-drop timeline. I've a terrible memory, it went like:
10 weeks+ to launch: game is awesome
6-10wks: game questionable
4wks: game is crap
launch drop: etc...
Or am I mis-remembering something?
WARs turn to shit had nothing to do with "time" so much as level. IIRC, the first 20 levels were awesome, due to both battlefield design, and other things. After that it all went to shit. |
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Nebu
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WARs turn to shit had nothing to do with "time" so much as level. IIRC, the first 20 levels were awesome, due to both battlefield design, and other things. After that it all went to shit.
It's not often that we completely agree about an MMO. This makes me happy. |
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Nija
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WARs turn to shit had nothing to do with "time" so much as level. IIRC, the first 20 levels were awesome, due to both battlefield design, and other things. After that it all went to shit.
Yep, which corresponded correctly to the focus of every single beta test, that one where you got pre-formatted R30 guys excluded. |
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JWIV
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I learned everything I needed to about WAR when I asked a few questions during Gamesday in Baltimore and the answers were basically "We're awesome, WAAARRGH"
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Modern Angel
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I have things to say and nowhere to say them.
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JWIV
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I have things to say and nowhere to say them.
Also this. |
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
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Lantyssa
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Wow.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Bhazrak
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Huh, well.
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Sir T
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I did not get a Beta invite. But I may or may not have been on another website where someone may or may not have said Anyone else trying to get into the ESO beta tonight? I made a character but I'm stuck at the load screen for the first quest. ... which may or may not make me hopeful for the game. |
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JWIV
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I did not get a Beta invite. But I may or may not have been on another website where someone may or may not have said Anyone else trying to get into the ESO beta tonight? I made a character but I'm stuck at the load screen for the first quest. ... which may or may not make me hopeful for the game. Enh. In general, bitching about a beta stress test revealing problems related to load is usually a sign of not understanding what a beta actually is. |
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Lantyssa
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Yeah. Even MMOs are release have difficulties those first few days. A problem like that in beta stress test I'm not going to hold against them.
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sam, an eggplant
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People have become accustomed to betas that are essentially pre-release demos, often paid ones, with near-final content and code. This is not that kind of beta.
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Paelos
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I have things to say and nowhere to say them.
Also this. Yep. |
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Merusk
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I'm going to have to ask my co-worker about this on Monday since you are all being so noisily quiet. He loved the prior beta weekend, though.
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Threash
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Didn't know you worked at zenimax.
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I am the .00000001428%
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ashrik
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mmm hmm. $60 + Subscription fee  |
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Tearofsoul
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It is a sad game.
That's all I want to say, for now...
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Margalis
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There is a thread about it on Neogaf where people are talking. Most of the posts are "uninstalled after an hour" and "this could do long term brand damage."
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Goreschach
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Didn't even bother signing up for beta. Anyone with a history in mmo's and a functioning brain stem should have been able to tell this one wasn't even worth watching. Why is this thread up to page 45?
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