tazelbain
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DO NOT TAUNT THE MCGUFFIN.
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DO NOT TAUNT THE MCGUFFIN.
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« Last Edit: December 21, 2010, 02:17:30 PM by Lorekeep »
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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Riggswolfe
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Now I get the feeling that the fiction doesn't know what the digital world actually is. Is it a parallel universe? Is it a whole computer universe in some way? Does it have access to the internet? Are these programs just programs from inside ENCOM or are they programs from everywhere? Is CLU dominating ENCOM or is he dominating all computing everywhere? What does that mean in real world terms? What are Isos, and where did they come from? Why were they a threat? What has Flynn been doing in there for however many centuries? What has CLU been doing? What did CLU intend to do?
Not to put too fine a point on it but literally every question you've asked here is answered in the film, most of them directly. |
"We live in a country, where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono was standing right next to him and not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me! Explain that to me, God! Explain it to me, God!" - Denis Leary summing up my feelings about the nature of the universe.
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"Role playing in an MMO is more like an open orchestra with no conductor, anyone of any skill level can walk in at any time, and everyone brings their own instrument and plays whatever song they want. Then toss PvP into the mix and things REALLY get ugly!" -Count Nerfedalot
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« Last Edit: December 21, 2010, 03:05:49 PM by Lorekeep »
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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Slyfeind
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"Role playing in an MMO is more like an open orchestra with no conductor, anyone of any skill level can walk in at any time, and everyone brings their own instrument and plays whatever song they want. Then toss PvP into the mix and things REALLY get ugly!" -Count Nerfedalot
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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Slyfeind
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[spoiler]Yeah at this point I think we're taunting the MacGuffin, and this MacGuffin taunts back.  [/quote] lol I screwed up spoiler tags on something that didn't need spoilering anyway lol |
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« Last Edit: December 21, 2010, 04:10:56 PM by Slyfeind »
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"Role playing in an MMO is more like an open orchestra with no conductor, anyone of any skill level can walk in at any time, and everyone brings their own instrument and plays whatever song they want. Then toss PvP into the mix and things REALLY get ugly!" -Count Nerfedalot
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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Surlyboi
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eat a bag of dicks
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The Salon review is just as brutal, though a LOT longer. You can tell the author likes to hear himself pontificate a lot more than he likes to think.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Merusk
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The past cannot be changed. The future is yet within your power.
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"See, the beauty of webgames is that I can play them on my phone while I'm plowing your mom." -Samwise
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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Slyfeind
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"Role playing in an MMO is more like an open orchestra with no conductor, anyone of any skill level can walk in at any time, and everyone brings their own instrument and plays whatever song they want. Then toss PvP into the mix and things REALLY get ugly!" -Count Nerfedalot
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation. |
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« Last Edit: December 22, 2010, 12:30:26 AM by SurfD »
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Darwinism is the Gateway Science.
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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« Last Edit: December 22, 2010, 12:59:40 AM by Lorekeep »
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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"What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation. |
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LK
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Sorry, my understanding of non-human biology is a bit limited. I forgot fruit is technically alive as a plant. I assume all living things have DNA?
Too tired for a proper answer, will see what the morning brings.
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Ratman_tf
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I assume all living things have DNA?
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"What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation. |
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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« Last Edit: December 22, 2010, 09:31:35 AM by Lorekeep »
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"Then there's the double-barreled shotgun from Doom 2 - no-one within your entire household could be of any doubt that it's been fired because it sounds like God slamming a door on his fingers." - Yahtzee Croshaw
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Slyfeind
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TOO MUCH PONTIFICATION
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"Role playing in an MMO is more like an open orchestra with no conductor, anyone of any skill level can walk in at any time, and everyone brings their own instrument and plays whatever song they want. Then toss PvP into the mix and things REALLY get ugly!" -Count Nerfedalot
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On of the things daddy Flynn mentioned in his babbles was quantum teleportation, which could pull off a matter to information transfer. The minor caveat being that anyone teleported in that manner would be instantly killed. Quantum teleportation requires the destruction of the matter being affected, as the only way to "read" a particle's quantum state is to crack that sucker open. So, sure, a version of you would appear on the digital grid to have exciting adventures, but the original you would be all kinds of dead.
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LK
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That's a good plot device. Someone gets transported to the grid and their matter is lost. They can't get out, and trying to mess with the tech would risk losing permanent access to the real world.
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Maybe next you guys can debate Weird Science and the logistics of making a person with magical powers with your computer.
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Chimpy
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Just saw it.
Liked it.
You can't go wrong with a movie scored by Daft Punk, co-starring Daft Punk imho.
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'Reality' is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes.
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Maybe next you guys can debate Weird Science and the logistics of making a person with magical powers with your computer.
Or we could bitch about MMOGs in great detail. |
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Maybe next you guys can debate Weird Science and the logistics of making a person with magical powers with your computer.
Next? |
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I'd just like to say thanks to Lorekeep for managing to get down in text so many of the things that have been flying through my head since I left the cinema last friday. It's a superb movie with some really outstanding techno philosophy in the undertow and a plot that just seems to be way too subtle for the majority of idiot reviewers out there that focussed only on the sheen and never even tried to engage their brains. Massawyrm from AICN is one of the very few out there who actually gets it, man. It's a Disney movie. Entertainment for everyone. First and foremost. That doesn't mean it doesn't have anything to say, though. |
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Saw it last night. Thought it was "meh". The Penny Arcade comic summed a lot of it up.
The food thing broke immersion for me, why would you even need food in a digital world?
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LK
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You think that's air they're breathing? Like making programs into humans, the world was likely designed to make it acceptable to a human brain's needs. Their brain *thinks* it needs oxygen and food (part of its programming!), so they create a representation of it to satisfy the brain. Imagine if they were able to break the *core* programming of their brain and went back into the real world. Spending the rest of your life having to physically make yourself breathe and never knowing when you're hungry until you collapse because you have no energy. Thanks Mattemeo. ^^ So, some summation points and new discoveries:  I fix't spoilers. |
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« Last Edit: December 23, 2010, 11:35:20 AM by Lorekeep »
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Chimpy
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Spoliers?
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'Reality' is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes.
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