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JWIV
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YES, Kerry Collins got signed with the COLTS, he can continue to be my object of irrational hate! He knew I'd miss him in my own fucked up way.  I expect every person in Indianapolis is now running to the nearest church and praying for Peyton. |
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Sjofn
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He's such a fucker, too, if Manning the Greater got hurt, Kerry Collins would have an awesome first game starting for them. To give them Hope. Because then it would be all the sweeter to crush their souls later.
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Paelos
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Manning the greater isn't going to start week one by most estimates.
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Sjofn
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Hmm, if he'll only miss one week, what Collins will do to maximize angst is hard to call. He can't be so awesome to cause doubt in the hearts of Colts fans, so perhaps instead he will be so wretched the fans will live in mortal fear of Manning ever getting hurt again ever. I MISSED YOU, KERRY COLLINS Fun Fact: One year, when he was still playing for the Giants, he managed to fuck up in such a way that pissed me off so bad, I picked him up on my fantasy football team specifically to sit him on my bench. I lost that game, and noticed he put up some really good fantasy numbers while sitting there (Favre was my starter that year and had a bad game, I believe). So I decided, "fuck it, I'll start him next week, the Giants are playing someone bad anyway." Oh! Poor, fool me. He naturally completely stunk, and I would've won if I had started ANYone but him. Still not realizing he was a fantasy locker room cancer, I put him back on my bench so he could THINK ABOUT WHAT HE HAD DONE. Long story short (too late) I lost four or five games in a row while he was on my team. I finally cut him, but it was too late. Even though I won my games without him, his horrible mojo cost me a playoff spot. Yeah, it was totally him, not me!  |
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HaemishM
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Losing Manning wouldn't be quite such a big deal if the Colts had ANY sort of running game or defense. As it is, he's the only one that can make that team win consistently, even with scrubs at wideout.
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Paelos
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They will lose to Houston with no Manning. That being said, they did that anyway last year and it didn't matter at all.
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HaemishM
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A lot of it will depend on how much better that division is. I think Houston will be better than last year as Wade Phillips might actually whip that defense into shape. Tennessee is a mystery but likely to be worse - Hasselbeck at QB (sure to miss a few games with injury), new coach, no (or a very pissed off) Chris Johnson, lots of really unsettled things on that team. The Jags probably haven't improved either. Yeah, it probably won't make any difference at all, as the Colts are likely to win the division anyway unless he misses the whole damn season.
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Draegan
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YES, Kerry Collins got signed with the COLTS, he can continue to be my object of irrational hate! He knew I'd miss him in my own fucked up way. I'll always have a soft spot for Kerry because he took the Giants to the Superbowl in 2000 after trouncing the Vikings 42--0 in the NFC Championship Game. |
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Sjofn
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But he was terrible in the actual Superbowl, plus I will always be mad that he didn't break the record for "most consecutive games with two fumbles or more" while with the Giants. Bitch couldn't even do THAT right.  |
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JWIV
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Paelos
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I'm continually unimpressed by Romo's ability to throw to anybody but Witten.
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Nevermore
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Unless you have Witten on your fantasy team, which makes it very impressive indeed.  |
Over and out.
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God I can't wait for Pete Carroll to get fired.
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Nebu
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God I can't wait for Pete Carroll to get fired.
What is it that you don't like about Carroll? I happen to think that he's an excellent coach. He just hasn't got much to work with. |
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God I can't wait for Pete Carroll to get fired.
What is it that you don't like about Carroll? I happen to think that he's an excellent coach. He just hasn't got much to work with. Not WAP, but I disagree about Carroll's coaching. He had a shitton of talent at USC and, except in a few years underperformed- particularly on defense. He had some really good coaches at his coordinator positions in his early years at USC which masked some of the deficiencies that I saw at the end of his tenure. Regardless, he was always head and shoulders above his competition when it came to talent. He won't have that advantage in the NFL. In fact, at Seattle it will be quite the opposite. I expect him to do mediocre at best. |
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Nebu
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Talent isn't always the coaches fault (cheap owner for example). Choice of assistants is also often dictated by the owner.
It would be interesting to know how much of a role Carroll has in recruiting, drafting, and free agent acquisition. Those things would really speak to his ability to succeed at the professional level.
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Well, that's really the point. He had complete control over his troops at USC. At Seattle he won't, and not even necessarily because the owner is cheap. The playing field is more level in the NFL (both in coaches and in players). It is a rare coach that can consistently get his teams playing far above the talent level. I don't think Carroll is that guy.
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HaemishM
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He isn't. He's never proved in any of the other opportunities he's had as head coach that he can COACH a team to victory. He's the kind of coach who can with with really good talent, but putting all that talent together at the NFL level is really really hard, especially a place like Seattle.
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With the talent gap that Carroll had at USC I could probably put together a top 10 team. When you're operating with a talent gap like that the scheme becomes much less important.
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With the talent gap that Carroll had at USC I could probably put together a top 10 team. When you're operating with a talent gap like that the scheme becomes much less important.
Hell of a recruiter though... |
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Oh fuck yeah. And I don't think USC was nearly as dirty as the pictures that were painted. In face, they were small potatoes compared to what was going on at Miami.
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With the talent gap that Carroll had at USC I could probably put together a top 10 team. When you're operating with a talent gap like that the scheme becomes much less important.
Hell of a recruiter though... That is precisely what I loathe about him. He is less of a coach and more of a salesman. He is oily and disingenuous. I just wish I could watch him fail miserably somewhere else instead of here  |
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Paelos
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I don't think you will get what you want.
However, the division is Arizona's to lose imo.
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Chimpy
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Carroll is a great Defensive Coordinator.
He is not a great head coach.
Kind of like Buddy Ryan, Wade Phillips, Guenther Cunnigham, and Ray Rhodes. Guys that just about anyone would hire to coach a defense but who were mediocre to downright terrible as head coaches.
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ghost
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Carroll is a great Defensive Coordinator.
He is not a great head coach.
Kind of like Buddy Ryan, Wade Phillips, Guenther Cunnigham, and Ray Rhodes. Guys that just about anyone would hire to coach a defense but who were mediocre to downright terrible as head coaches.
The problem with this theory is that his defenses have steadily gone downhill at USC, and the last two years he was coaching there USC could barely catch a cold in the fourth quarter. And that is with the talent that he had accumulated. |
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HaemishM
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I don't think you will get what you want.
However, the division is Arizona's to lose imo.
I don't know about that. I'm not sure the addition of Kolb is the magic salve that team has been lacking. St. Louis is poised to take off, IMO, especially in a division with 2 games against San Fran and Seattle each. |
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WayAbvPar
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From what I have seen from St Louis so far in the preaseason (which is not more than a couple of series), they are still a ways away. Another good draft and free agency, coupled with some experience for all their young guys will make them a handful in 2012 and beyond.
That being said, it won't take much to win this division. If anything it is worse than last year. SF is a wreck, Seattle is a mess, Arizona is schizo and St Louis is REALLY young.
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Sjofn
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That's why I think St. Louis will probably be the team to beat. They're young, but they aren't the other three teams in the NFC West. |
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Chimpy
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Carroll is a great Defensive Coordinator.
The problem with this theory is that his defenses have steadily gone downhill at USC, and the last two years he was coaching there USC could barely catch a cold in the fourth quarter. And that is with the talent that he had accumulated. Being a great Coordinator does not mean that the Defense (or Offense, see Norv Turner as a shining example) will be worth a shit when you are head coach. |
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Our D-line is starting to look decent. LBs and secondary are really young and/or terrible. Got decidedly less so when they shipped Kelly Jennings to the Bungles this morning. That POS deserves to rot there.
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gimpyone
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From what I have seen from St Louis so far in the preaseason (which is not more than a couple of series), they are still a ways away. Another good draft and free agency, coupled with some experience for all their young guys will make them a handful in 2012 and beyond.
That being said, it won't take much to win this division. If anything it is worse than last year. SF is a wreck, Seattle is a mess, Arizona is schizo and St Louis is REALLY young.
I'm already looking forward to next season.  |
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Paelos
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Giants fans are glad that game didn't count. Yeesh.
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Cyrrex
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Our D-line is starting to look decent. LBs and secondary are really young and/or terrible. Got decidedly less so when they shipped Kelly Jennings to the Bungles this morning. That POS deserves to rot there.
Didn't they also just get rid of Lofa Tatupu? I mean, he hasn't lived up to his promise IMO, but still. Pete makes a lot of daring moves, and some of them even look good on paper. Problem is, nobody gets to stay around long enough to begin forming a cohesive unit, and this problem is only getting worse. Plus the fact that there is now absolutely nothing looking like a top tier QB, which is a near must in this league. Why they attempted to land nobody better than Tavaris Jackson is a total mystery to me. Not that I believe in Kevin Kolb, but even that would have been better. Or McNabb. Or Kyle Orton. Or whatever the fuck Carson Palmer is up to these days. Shit, even Tim Tebow might give me more reason for optimism. |
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ghost
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Being a great Coordinator does not mean that the Defense (or Offense, see Norv Turner as a shining example) will be worth a shit when you are head coach.
That's not the norm though. Most of the time they do fine with their specialty. |
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Margalis
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Being a good recruiter is almost completely irrelevant to the NFL game.
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