Carbine Studios' "Wildstar"

[Signe]

I find it really hard to save money in this game too. 

[Evildrider]

I had to give up on salvaging anything otherwise I'd have crap for money.  At least with some of the armor I craft I can get my money back on mats bought from the vendor.

[Signe]

Oh, there's an idea.  Maybe I'll just sell everything until I save enough money for something cool like, well, dunno yet.  What's everyone spending money on besides skills?

[Evildrider]

For me it's basically just buying amps, mats, and the mount at 15 (which is 11g).  Luckily I have a hoverboard for when I hit 25

[Flood]

I had to give up on salvaging anything otherwise I'd have crap for money.  At least with some of the armor I craft I can get my money back on mats bought from the vendor.

That's what I do.  I've never been much of a crafter in MMO's but it is tempting in WS.  However due to the money situation I sell every single thing I loot, minus potential gear upgrades.  I'm also trying to stash a Support based set of gear if I ever try my hand at fulltime healing. 

I mainly spend money on AMPs, since they seem to make such a difference in your overall effectiveness.  I picked up a mount by 15, and I'll have the Hoveboard waiting for me at 25.  I have to force myself not to spend money on housing stuff - the urge is almost irresitible not to customize.  At this point anything that gives "small / medium bonus to rested blah blah" I just cram in there for rest XP bonuses, most of which I have gotten through random Boombox awards or the odd open world challenge RNG award.

I hit 21 last night, about halfway to 22.  Did my first "shiphand" mission last night also.  It was fun but extremely challenging solo.  I checked "scale to my level" when I entered. 

[luckton]

From what I understand, salvaging at low levels is folly. You can buy all the basic and cheap salvage from NPC merchants.

[Nebu]

I understand the the upgraded riding skill at level 40 is broken.  Apparently when you buy it and right click it, it does nothing. 

Anyone have any issues with this? 

[Flood]

I understand the the upgraded riding skill at level 40 is broken.  Apparently when you buy it and right click it, it does nothing. 

Anyone have any issues with this? 

Goldenmean can probably tell you, he's level...46ish I think.

[Ginaz]

I just hit 15 tonight and only have 2 gold.  No mount for me yet.   I've been foolishly salvaging to level my crafting skill.   I don't think I'll be doing that anymore.

I also did the first adventure thingy tonight.  First group wiped a few times and disbanded.  Second group got it done with no deaths.  One thing I'll say is there sure is a lot of trash mobs.  Reminds me a lot of the early dungeons in WoW.  Not sure if that's a good or bad thing yet.  It does make it much harder to stay out of the red areas on the ground.

[Goldenmean]

I understand the the upgraded riding skill at level 40 is broken.  Apparently when you buy it and right click it, it does nothing. 

Anyone have any issues with this? 

Goldenmean can probably tell you, he's level...46ish I think.

Hit 50 tonight. And yeah, the level 40 mount speed increase is broken, but for whatever reason the vendor is still in the game, without any sort of warning on him. Guess they can't hotfix that, or they're just desperate to make work for their support team.

[Goldenmean]

I also did the first adventure thingy tonight.  First group wiped a few times and disbanded.  Second group got it done with no deaths.  One thing I'll say is there sure is a lot of trash mobs.  Reminds me a lot of the early dungeons in WoW.  Not sure if that's a good or bad thing yet.  It does make it much harder to stay out of the red areas on the ground.

The first adventure has a lot of trash mostly because it has some infinite respawn areas you're just expected to run through. One of my quibbles with the game is that this isn't incredibly clear. The dungeons themselves (the ones I've done at least) have relatively little trash.

[Rasix]

I just hit 15 tonight and only have 2 gold.  No mount for me yet.   I've been foolishly salvaging to level my crafting skill.   I don't think I'll be doing that anymore.

I also did the first adventure thingy tonight.  First group wiped a few times and disbanded.  Second group got it done with no deaths.  One thing I'll say is there sure is a lot of trash mobs.  Reminds me a lot of the early dungeons in WoW.  Not sure if that's a good or bad thing yet.  It does make it much harder to stay out of the red areas on the ground.

It gets better.  I think I barely had enough for a mount when I hit Thayd, but was able to buy one with a little spare room.   Gold gain ramps up dramatically to the point where I can buy amps, craft, buy skills and still have like 22 gold at level 20.  But I don't have a tradeskill where I've felt the need to salvage.

[Nebu]

I was well over a plat when I hit 40 and I'm someone that salvages everything.  The money bind gets better to the point that you'll easily be able to afford a few crazy housing upgrades after you've been level 50 for a little while.  Particularly if you have a group to run dungeons regularly with.

[Draegan]

Been playing a Warrior to level 20. Thinking about rolling a healer and I'm looking at a Spellslinger for god knows what reasons. Does anyone play one with a decent amount of experience in a group setting? How are they at healing?

[Rokal]

I really liked the healer break-down here:

http://www.steamhawkegaming.shivtr.com/forum_threads/1779158

Gives you a good idea about how each healers telegraphs look, differences in dispelling, etc.

I'm enjoying healing on my Spellslinger. You don't have to be in almost-melee range like a Medic, and you don't have to stand still for most of your heals like an Esper. The trade off is that your telegraphs are a lot more narrow than the other healers. There have definitely been situations where the tank rolled out of my heal in dungeons and died a few seconds later, but they see the green telegraphs as the heal is charging so it's really a matter of learning on their part.

[Draegan]

Thanks for the link, but I pretty much know the basic pros and cons between all three healers. I'm just looking for a more personal opinion on the class. Thanks for your insight though.

Do you find Spellsurge janky to play with?

[01101010]

I always forgot about spellsurge, with everything else going on. Either I never got around to flipping it on, or I left it on the whole time and ran out... then again, I never remembered to turn it back on anyway. I am sure someone with more attention could probably get some mileage out of it. That said, it seemed it was never worth the boost it gave - but that was at lower levels.

[Rokal]

What I liked about the link was that it got a lot deeper into the differences of each class, the sort of differences that you won't start to see until high level when lots of the tier unlocks are available, etc. Without the link I wouldn't really have thought about something like "how does my class apply interrupt armor to my group?" (answer: poorly and with a large investment in Ability points, apparently!)

Spellsurge does feel a little janky, but overall it doesn't feel a whole lot different than healer cooldowns in any MMO. My big complaint with it is that I can't toggle it on and off while I'm casting a heal to prepare for the next cast. Since Spellsurge doesn't active a GCD it doesn't matter a whole lot, but there have been situations where I thought I triggered SS for the next heal but then notice SS isn't active. I'd say it works the way I expect it to 95% of the time.

[Nebu]

Thanks for the link, but I pretty much know the basic pros and cons between all three healers. I'm just looking for a more personal opinion on the class. Thanks for your insight though.

Do you find Spellsurge janky to play with?

Played a SS to about 20 in beta and decided to play an Esper live as a primary healer.  SS are an amazing burst healer but rely heavily on a little help from your group mates.  If you're grouping regularly with the same people, then a SS is a great choice.  They are great burst healers with good mobility and range.  They also benefit from the option to also be an amazing dps if you want to solo or pvp as a dps.  I prefer my Esper for healing as they allow for a greater margin of error in 5 man settings.  i.e. I don't have to worry so much about hitting my target to maximize healing potential.  

Hope that helps a little.

[Draegan]

Yeah that is the impression I'm getting looking around at random forum threads. I just don't enjoy the Esper play style of stationary casting. I really love the class though. Was my favorite in beta, but I never played past level 17.

Right now I have a level 20 warrior and I'm not sure if I really want to tank in this game anymore.

[Nebu]

Yeah that is the impression I'm getting looking around at random forum threads. I just don't enjoy the Esper play style of stationary casting. I really love the class though. Was my favorite in beta, but I never played past level 17.

Right now I have a level 20 warrior and I'm not sure if I really want to tank in this game anymore.

The Esper is terrible as a DPS, but very mobile as a healer.  There's no reason to use MoB unless you're the primary tank healer in a raid and it's the only heal that requires you to stand still. Esper healers are VERY mobile.  I don't use MoB and I do fine in 5 mans.  I'll see how veterans go when I have better gear.

The only trouble is that you have to get to 50 and playing Esper DPS is boring boring boring.

[Samprimary]

SS in beta were fuckoff complicated and their class mechanic (the spellsurge) was ... unsatisfyingly vague to have to deal with and super easy to accidentally waste.

I heard there were some changes but I cannot yet speak to them.

[Draegan]

Yeah that is the impression I'm getting looking around at random forum threads. I just don't enjoy the Esper play style of stationary casting. I really love the class though. Was my favorite in beta, but I never played past level 17.

Right now I have a level 20 warrior and I'm not sure if I really want to tank in this game anymore.

The Esper is terrible as a DPS, but very mobile as a healer.  There's no reason to use MoB unless you're the primary tank healer in a raid and it's the only heal that requires you to stand still. Esper healers are VERY mobile.  I don't use MoB and I do fine in 5 mans.  I'll see how veterans go when I have better gear.

The only trouble is that you have to get to 50 and playing Esper DPS is boring boring boring.

It's not less boring that my warrior now:

Polarity Field
Saw
Savage Strikes
Spammer until MoO
Kick
Rampage

Next level I get the ability I can fire off of GCD after a crit. Wooptiewoop.

[Signe]

Why the fuck am I suddenly naked???      I'm scared to log in!

[Nebu]

It's not less boring that my warrior now:

Polarity Field
Saw
Savage Strikes
Spammer until MoO
Kick
Rampage

Next level I get the ability I can fire off of GCD after a crit. Wooptiewoop.

I'll take that bet:  

1: Builder (stationary)
2: 5 psi point attack
3: ae root/dot
4: ae stun
5: HoT
6: heal
7: Shield
8: escape

I essentially spam 2 buttons for easy fights (1,1,1,1,1,2 repeat) and use the rest while kiting

Dull dull dull.

[Rokal]

Why the fuck am I suddenly naked???      I'm scared to log in!

I don't know what causes it, but I've seen it twice since launch. Character always actually had gear when I logged in though.

[Nebu]

My costume slots stopped working on Saturday.  I wonder if others are getting similar glitches.  

Found out this is a common bug and happens after the level 40 story quest.  Keep that in mind for those of you that haven't done it yet.

[Draegan]

I essentially spam 2 buttons for easy fights (1,1,1,1,1,2 repeat) and use the rest while kiting

Dull dull dull.

Most leveling specs seem dull to be honest. At least espers get a giant cool looking bird.

[Nebu]

Most leveling specs seem dull to be honest. At least espers get a giant cool looking bird.

I stopped using that after level 20.  It scales poorly and the AE DoT does much more damage if you can purple the mob with a stun.

[Draegan]

Are you talking about Reap?

[Abelian75]

Why the fuck am I suddenly naked???      I'm scared to log in!

Yeah, I was naked too once.  It was the first time I'd logged out in my house, so I figured they were just taking a snooze and I caught them at a bad time.

[Nebu]

Are you talking about Reap?

I use Telekinetic storm (AE) instead of Mind Burst (the bird).

[Draegan]

I'm going to reroll an Esper tonight just because of you. This way, I have someone to blame.

[Nebu]

I'm going to reroll an Esper tonight just because of you. This way, I have someone to blame.

Mark my words: PvE sucks, but healing is solid.  I still think a SS is a better choice.  Twice the killing power as dps and still a solid healer.  All you see are SS in PvP.

[Hoax]

How did petless engie builds work out?

I fucking hate pets and frankly I hated playing Engineer but I hated all 3 classes I tried so that didn't say much besides the early game is too slow and boring.