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Reply #12670 on: November 12, 2011, 08:31:58 AM

Well, sometime in the next 4 weeks?  why so serious?
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Reply #12671 on: November 12, 2011, 08:35:50 AM

Does it take longer even if you duo with someone in your own class?
Yeah, since only you can progress your storyline when you do your bit; you'd have to repeat it for the other person.
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Reply #12672 on: November 12, 2011, 08:47:09 AM

It sounds like WoW was his first MMO dance. 

Actually what it sounds like is the devolving of creative MMO's, or programmers.   I want to swing a lightsaber, not watch some stupid timer. 

I've played MMO's since UO was released.  Beta tested everything I could sign up for ...So yea, not my first one...one liner dude.

It's not my fault the genre now sucks.


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Reply #12673 on: November 12, 2011, 09:31:32 AM

I made a Jedi right at zero hour and it was borderline unplayable in melee because of all the stuttering. A few hours later when the starting area was much less crowded it got much better. As someone else said I'd put it just a touch below WoW's for responsiveness.


The game is key release, instead of key press apparently.

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Reply #12674 on: November 12, 2011, 09:37:28 AM

I haven't been serious enough to notice if that's been the case in a lot of other games, but is it?

I think the default in Rift is release (I have it set that way at least) and the option wasn't even part of the WoW client proper until just recently.

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Reply #12675 on: November 12, 2011, 10:28:30 AM

Ctrl+Shift+F will also display your FPS in the lower left corner if anyone is curious about that too.

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Reply #12676 on: November 12, 2011, 10:33:08 AM

Ctrl+Shift+F will also display your FPS in the lower left corner if anyone is curious about that too.

Supposedly it even displays if your bottleneck is CPU or GPU based on the color of the numbers.  I forget which is which though.

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Reply #12677 on: November 12, 2011, 10:44:53 AM

Oh, I didn't know that, that's neat!



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Reply #12678 on: November 12, 2011, 10:53:23 AM

For the fanbois that have been following all this and it's "public" knowledge, what is the difference between PvP and non-PvP servers? Are there PvP zones on PvP servers? (That I assume would not be PvP zones on the non-PvP server?)

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Reply #12679 on: November 12, 2011, 10:58:12 AM

PvP servers just auto flag you for PvP past like level 15-20 or so (similar to WoW if you are familiar with that). There aren't many spots where you actually run across the opposing faction for the first 30-35 levels though, so if you are just wanting to beat a Queue for the weekend, feel free, the noob planets themselves are total safe zones, the opposing faction can't even land on them.


There is also apparently a big RvR style planet and the standard battlegrounds on both pve/pvp servers.

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Reply #12680 on: November 12, 2011, 11:01:19 AM

It sounds like WoW was his first MMO dance. 

Actually what it sounds like is the devolving of creative MMO's, or programmers.   I want to swing a lightsaber, not watch some stupid timer. 

I've played MMO's since UO was released.  Beta tested everything I could sign up for ...So yea, not my first one...one liner dude.

It's not my fault the genre now sucks.

No offense, but if WoW wasn't your first DIKU you'd have been saying the same things when it came out, as the formula there was pretty much the same thing EQ did.

So yeah.

That said, this thing gets a lot right if it makes me want to play a DIKU again.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #12681 on: November 12, 2011, 12:53:40 PM

Ctrl+Shift+F will also display your FPS in the lower left corner if anyone is curious about that too.

Supposedly it even displays if your bottleneck is CPU or GPU based on the color of the numbers.  I forget which is which though.

Green = GPU, red = CPU.  You could be getting 200FPS and the number might be red.  It's just letting you know that your bottleneck at 200FPS is your CPU.  It's kinda cool, actually.
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Reply #12682 on: November 12, 2011, 01:02:52 PM

It's not my fault the genre now sucks.

Welcome to the video game industry, where feature creep is common and successful ideas are repeated by sequels and other games. I think it's hilarious that you're complaining that SWTOR is too similar to it's predecessors, and instead say you'll be playing Skyrim: the 5th game in a series that has been mechanically identical since Morrowind (3rd). I'm looking forward to playing Skyrim, but it's hardly original. You know, sort of like SWTOR. A game doesn't need to be completely unique to be fun or worth playing. Hardly any are.
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Reply #12683 on: November 12, 2011, 01:06:54 PM

I'm not sure that's a fair point given that the Elder Scrolls series is pretty unique overall.

Sure, Skyrim is a sequel and not wholly original but it's not really part of a genre where every game is basically the same. And I think it's fair to say that "press the button every time your cooldown is up" is sort of a design rathole that doesn't seem like it should be fundamental to the MMO genre.
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Reply #12684 on: November 12, 2011, 01:55:57 PM

I dunno guys.   Do things pick up at later levels like LotRO?
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Reply #12685 on: November 12, 2011, 01:58:46 PM

Define, "pick up"

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #12686 on: November 12, 2011, 02:10:44 PM

I dunno guys.   Do things pick up at later levels like LotRO?

I'd tell you but it would break the NDA, right?
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Reply #12687 on: November 12, 2011, 02:32:27 PM

If you are in beta. Please for the love of all things agree with the OP.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=608595

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Reply #12688 on: November 12, 2011, 02:36:08 PM

Just got home from work.

Position in queue: 2533   ACK! why so serious?


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Reply #12689 on: November 12, 2011, 02:37:44 PM

If you are in beta. Please for the love of all things agree with the OP.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=608595

If you're the OP, I must humbly disagree, for the reasons stated by Jesamyn.

"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."

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Reply #12690 on: November 12, 2011, 02:43:07 PM

Ahaha, yes. That Jessamyn cat who says we don't want a game like that OTHER game. Even the people most into it know that it's a knockoff of it.
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Reply #12691 on: November 12, 2011, 02:57:27 PM

Just got home from work.

Position in queue: 2533   ACK! why so serious?
Like I'm going to download 21GB for a few hours over the weekend, for which I'm going to waste a majority at a waiting screen.

I think I'll just skip all this and wait until spring '12, when they've ironed out all issues.

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Reply #12692 on: November 12, 2011, 02:59:52 PM

I'm not sure that's a fair point given that the Elder Scrolls series is pretty unique overall.

Sure, Skyrim is a sequel and not wholly original but it's not really part of a genre where every game is basically the same. And I think it's fair to say that "press the button every time your cooldown is up" is sort of a design rathole that doesn't seem like it should be fundamental to the MMO genre.

It's completely fair, especially when you consider that games in the same genre (open world action RPG) have been coming out at-least annually at this point between Fallout(s), Elder Scrolls games, and less popular series like Gothic, Risen, Two Worlds, etc.
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Reply #12693 on: November 12, 2011, 03:00:20 PM

I wonder how much of this weekend is testing bringing the servers down then back up to test how the forums and game handles it all :P

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Reply #12694 on: November 12, 2011, 03:39:18 PM

Well they've actually said they intend to just reboot all the servers and kick everyone off a few times, just to see if the servers are up to task or not.

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Reply #12695 on: November 12, 2011, 04:00:07 PM

Yeah that was said up front in something I read.

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Reply #12696 on: November 12, 2011, 04:04:42 PM

Well they've actually said they intend to just reboot all the servers and kick everyone off a few times, just to see if the servers are up to task or not.
Like that's not possible to automate.

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Reply #12697 on: November 12, 2011, 04:06:24 PM

Canderous Ordo hasn't been hugely crowded, you guys just need to pick better servers.  why so serious?

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Reply #12698 on: November 12, 2011, 05:07:15 PM

Canderous Ordo hasn't been hugely crowded, you guys just need to pick better servers.  why so serious?

Seriously. And like someone else said, just jump on a pvp server. There's next to no queues and it's not like you'll be anywhere near the level that it'll affect you.

Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Reply #12699 on: November 12, 2011, 11:49:54 PM

Force Leap + the Jedi Knight AOE things is one of those things I think i could never get tired of.

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Reply #12700 on: November 13, 2011, 02:38:34 AM


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Reply #12701 on: November 13, 2011, 06:00:35 AM

Well they've actually said they intend to just reboot all the servers and kick everyone off a few times, just to see if the servers are up to task or not.
Like that's not possible to automate.

We spend millions on simulations.  They never exactly represent reality.  It's a test, now is when you do those things.

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Reply #12702 on: November 13, 2011, 08:25:09 AM

I still can't decide between BH and IA.

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Reply #12703 on: November 13, 2011, 08:26:38 AM

I should be a 5 day head starter, I put my pre-order code in the morning they were available first day.  With the stress testing they are doing and the pre-chosen guild-server launches I am debating on taking the first day or 2 off work to play.  In past games playing day 1 often doesnt work out cause servers are down more then they are up but I'm thinking the combination of the stress testing and what they get out of that plus the guild server designations that maybe this will be a game that has little problems...what to do...
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Reply #12704 on: November 13, 2011, 08:35:38 AM

Well they've actually said they intend to just reboot all the servers and kick everyone off a few times, just to see if the servers are up to task or not.
Like that's not possible to automate.

We spend millions on simulations.  They never exactly represent reality.  It's a test, now is when you do those things.

If you knew enough about reality to build the simulation, then you wouldn't need the simulation in the first place.

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