Carbine Studios' "Wildstar"

[Senses]

Its pretty standard in the industry to turn off access to the official forums when you quit considering all of them require an active account log in to post.  What do you really have to say there that anyone would want to read anyways.

[Senses]

I hit 50 yesterday.

I'm now officially bored. That didn't take long. There's a limit on how many "points" you can acquire through daily quests per week at 50. The very first step in getting attuned for raiding is spending 150 of these points for a key. I'm at the limit for the week and not really all that close to being able to afford it.

As soon as that happened, the grind was just too much. I'm too old for this shit.

You are pretty much an idiot.

[Ginaz]

I hit 50 yesterday.

I'm now officially bored. That didn't take long. There's a limit on how many "points" you can acquire through daily quests per week at 50. The very first step in getting attuned for raiding is spending 150 of these points for a key. I'm at the limit for the week and not really all that close to being able to afford it.

As soon as that happened, the grind was just too much. I'm too old for this shit.

You are pretty much an idiot.

Someone is butt hurt people don't like what they like.

[Nebu]

What do you really have to say there that anyone would want to read anyways.

i·ro·ny         ˈīrənē,ˈiərnē            noun

the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

[Rasix]

I hit 50 yesterday.

I'm now officially bored. That didn't take long. There's a limit on how many "points" you can acquire through daily quests per week at 50. The very first step in getting attuned for raiding is spending 150 of these points for a key. I'm at the limit for the week and not really all that close to being able to afford it.

As soon as that happened, the grind was just too much. I'm too old for this shit.

You are pretty much an idiot.

Someone is butt hurt people don't like what they like.

Again.  

I cancelled before they could charge me.  Nothing against the game (I actually like it), but I just feel like playing other games at the moment.   Getting through the stuff I bought on the Steam sale and playing around with Marvel Heroes will probably take me a few weeks.

I don't think their subs are going to do well and this could be quite bad for them.  They're too far sunk into their current design to quickly change gears, however.  Population numbers were pretty tiny during my play window, although this is typically the case.

[Numtini]

So I had canceled my sub about a week ago, I get an email this morning that they charged me anyways. Then I go to support and apparently they charged a lot of people who canceled. What makes it worse is that when I go into my account options, there is no way to cancel, only resubscribe.

You haven't completed cancellation attunement.

[Ingmar]

Stopping non-subscribers from posting isn't really 'censorship', it's the bare minimum you have to do to not end up with something that resembles the old VN Boards.

[Senses]

I hit 50 yesterday.

I'm now officially bored. That didn't take long. There's a limit on how many "points" you can acquire through daily quests per week at 50. The very first step in getting attuned for raiding is spending 150 of these points for a key. I'm at the limit for the week and not really all that close to being able to afford it.

As soon as that happened, the grind was just too much. I'm too old for this shit.

You are pretty much an idiot.

Someone is butt hurt people don't like what they like.

Nope.  Its just a really stupid thing to say.   You grinded to 50 and then the next day you decided based on incorrect information that you still don't really understand... that you were going to cancel your account.  Wildstar, WoW or checkers, this makes you an idiot.

[01101010]

You haven't completed cancellation attunement.

/topic    

[Nebu]

Stopping non-subscribers from posting isn't really 'censorship', it's the bare minimum you have to do to not end up with something that resembles the old VN Boards.

FtP game forums are filled with people that no longer play.  Some of these people use the forums to stay in touch with their friends in the community.  Occasionally, their forum interactions will bring them back to the game.  This is especially true after a paradigm shift (i.e. miracle patch).

Forcing people out when their sub ends so that they can't complain/comment seems like a missed opportunity to me.  

[Senses]

What do you really have to say there that anyone would want to read anyways.

i·ro·ny         ˈīrənē,ˈiərnē            noun

the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

Neat.  I won't try to make my response as clever as you did, but I didn't mean this is an insult.  I meant to say that why would someone who just canceled their account want to chat on the games official forums.  That is usually a recipe for disaster as far as the developer is concerned.  They have enough problems with the behavior of those actually subscribed.  

[Nebu]

Neat.  I won't try to make my response as clever as you did, but I didn't mean this is an insult.  I meant to say that why would someone who just canceled their account want to chat on the games official forums.  That is usually a recipe for disaster as far as the developer is concerned.  They have enough problems with the behavior of those actually subscribed.  

See my response above.  

I see many people hanging out on the LoL and WoT forums that stopped playing.  Sometimes those interactions are enough to get them to come back and give the game another try.  I used to read the Wildstar forums occasionally.  Being unable to converse on the game decreases my interest.

While gaming forums are generally white noise, there is sometimes enough there to spark discussion.  On rare occasions that discussion is even intelligent.


EDIT: I apologize for being a smart ass earlier. Your initial post came off as rather troll-ish.

[Lantyssa]

How many posters complaining on a message board have caused someone else to leave versus continued interaction eventually bringing someone back to the game?

Not having a shitty game will have far more positive effect anyways.

[Threash]

Stopping non-subscribers from posting isn't really 'censorship', it's the bare minimum you have to do to not end up with something that resembles the old VN Boards.

FtP game forums are filled with people that no longer play.  Some of these people use the forums to stay in touch with their friends in the community.  Occasionally, their forum interactions will bring them back to the game.  This is especially true after a paradigm shift (i.e. miracle patch).

And the other 99.9999% of the time they just spend the entire time shitting on the game and driving away more customers.

[Nebu]

And the other 99.9999% of the time they just spend the entire time shitting on the game and driving away more customers.

The forums are populated by 1-2% of the most vocal members of the playerbase.  You can't possibly be serious.  

[Ginaz]

And the other 99.9999% of the time they just spend the entire time shitting on the game and driving away more customers.

The forums are populated by 1-2% of the most vocal members of the playerbase.  You can't possibly be serious.  

I've never known anyone to cite "negative and hostile forums" as a reason for not playing an MMO.

[Sjofn]

In any case, it's not even close to a new thing, WoW's boards were (are? I haven't even glanced at them in over a year) subscriber-only too.

[Evildrider]

And the other 99.9999% of the time they just spend the entire time shitting on the game and driving away more customers.

The forums are populated by 1-2% of the most vocal members of the playerbase.  You can't possibly be serious.  

I've never known anyone to cite "negative and hostile forums" as a reason for not playing an MMO.

I've used it as an excuse to stay away from the games forums though.

[tmp]

I've never known anyone to cite "negative and hostile forums" as a reason for not playing an MMO.

Mythic did, I think

[Signe]

When you go into your account, there's a place where you can click "cancel".  I don't know what that cancels, but it doesn't cancel your sub.  That's how I tried to cancel the first time.  If you go into "Transaction History" and click on "Subscriptions" there and click "Cancel Subscriptions", it returns "Subscription successfully canceled" or sommat.  You also get the canceled email.  Hopefully, this works better than the other click-able cancel. 

[Shatter]

I never understood this  I remember trying to quit TOR, BIG BUTTONS TO SUBSCRIBE, couldn't find the dam cancel button anywhere.  Had to Google how to quit the bitch and finally found that you had to scroll way down to the bottom, literally past nothingness to a small cancel text.  Really?  Yeah, maybe if I cant find the cancel option Ill just say screw it and stay subbed.  If anything, that pisses me off more that I wont resub later just cause I know canceling will be a pain in the ass. 

[Venkman]

Stopping non-subscribers from posting isn't really 'censorship', it's the bare minimum you have to do to not end up with something that resembles the old VN Boards.

FtP game forums are filled with people that no longer play.  Some of these people use the forums to stay in touch with their friends in the community.  Occasionally, their forum interactions will bring them back to the game.  This is especially true after a paradigm shift (i.e. miracle patch).

Forcing people out when their sub ends so that they can't complain/comment seems like a missed opportunity to me.  

You can't control what people post. You can only react. And for the post part, players hit the boards to complain, not to compliment.

If you have a universally beloved game, you don't have a problem with what people are saying on your forums or in social media.

How many companies can really say that's what they have though?

Think of all the people showing up from having heard the word "game X" and google'ing it. The first thing they see is a bunch of posts about some has-been forum players planning their next RL bbq. Is it worth letting non-accountable non-paying gamers be representatives for your game in the hopes some of them might convert from lapse to active players?

Heck, forget forcing people out after their sub ends. I wouldn't let them in AT ALL until they've passed the first billing cycle. Lapsed players don't do good marketing. Heck, CURRENT players don't do good marketing. Especially on forums. Where they're coming to complain.

[Threash]

That doesn't work, they just use forums you have no control over instead.  It's not like it hasn't been tried.

[sam, an eggplant]

That doesn't work, they just use forums you have no control over instead.  It's not like it hasn't been tried.

Sites are listed in search results in order of the number of sites that link to them. Any non-official forum is going to be much less popular than the official one. For random grindy MMOs that nobody cares about, the non-official forums are generally listed several pages down.

Besides, if you run a MMO, why would you pay for forums for non-subscribers? They all quit the game, they're just gonna shitpost on your paying customers. Screw those guys.

[Nebu]

I love how you guys make me feel sorry for ever mentioning something.

Thanks!   

[HaemishM]

f13.net. The gift that keeps on giving. Like syphilis.

[01101010]

f13.net. The gift that keeps on giving. Like syphilis.

Always got the herpes vibe... syphilis will kill a bitch given enough time.

[Evildrider]

f13.net. The gift that keeps on giving. Like syphilis.

Always got the herpes vibe... syphilis will kill a bitch given enough time.

Just a matter of time before one of us nerd rages ourselves into a heart attack.

[apocrypha]

Just a matter of time before one of us nerd rages ourselves into a heart attack.

Are you sure that hasn't already happened to someone?

[Ginaz]

Just a matter of time before one of us nerd rages ourselves into a heart attack.

Are you sure that hasn't already happened to someone?

WUA?

[rk47]

The KFC will do me in. I just know it.

[Pennilenko]

The KFC will do me in. I just know it.

If you want to quit your KFC habit, just look up "KFC gross" on Google.

[Lantyssa]

Popeye's is better anyways.  Probably not better for you, but better.

[Ginaz]

I wonder if, in this case, KFC means what we think it means.  It is RK47 after all.

[Trippy]

It does. He posted a pic in another thread.