Chris Roberts Back in your wallet - STAR CITIZEN

[Shannow]

According to Smart they are almost out of money.

God...I hope so much that this is true. No offense to you suckers who gave them cash but man that would be so amusing.

I don't get this attitude.

I hope that somehow they manage to make an amazing space combat sim despite all the soda jerking. Why wouldn't we hope for a good game? Not saying there's a decent chance it will happen, but wouldn't you rather play an awesome game than sit around and tear people down?

I think because they promised an awesome game and it's fairly obvious they are not going to deliver. For that they deserve to crash and burn.
Also its f13

[Cyrrex]

Also, we just like to cover our bases.  If it is a good game, great.  If it is an utter failure, GREAT.

[Hoax]

Hell now I love space but honestly anything less than robot raptor jesus version of eve wouldn't be worth more to me than this game actually running out of money before they make a game.

That would be fucking amazing. I just oh god the tears of all those morons who spent $5k+ it'd just be so good. SC ships are good investment oh man please please please let them run out of money.

[Pennilenko]

I've seen what SC has done to some people in real life. While it was the dudes own fault, I kind of want RSI to suffer some too, for their predatory practice of taking advantage of easy marks.

[Viin]

Isn't that capitalism in a nutshell?

[HaemishM]

My desire for a good game is overrode by my desire to see assgoblins who sell $18k digital ships for a game that isn't released and may never be finished to rubes too fucking stupid/OCD to say no.

[Sky]

I've seen what SC has done to some people in real life. While it was the dudes own fault, I kind of want RSI to suffer some too, for their predatory practice of taking advantage of easy marks.

That's just smart capitalism. Trying to stop people from taking advantage of other people is how we got sold out to the Chinese.

I know a guy who got fucked over by EQ (and ebay). You know what? Fuck that guy.

The fact that it's getting massive funding from people spending so much on video game bobbins is hilarious, but I still hope to see a good game out of it.

[Yegolev]

I think this must have gone so far along the capitalism scale that it has wrapped around to socialism again.

[Draegan]

Surely we didn't pass over slavery yet and debtor's prison?

[Sky]

I think this must have gone so far along the capitalism scale that it has wrapped around to socialism again.

Aw naw, this be peanuts compared to real capitalism, homey.

[jakonovski]

Well this thread sure is paying dividends. 

[Velorath]

According to Smart they are almost out of money.

God...I hope so much that this is true. No offense to you suckers who gave them cash but man that would be so amusing.

I don't get this attitude.

I hope that somehow they manage to make an amazing space combat sim despite all the soda jerking. Why wouldn't we hope for a good game? Not saying there's a decent chance it will happen, but wouldn't you rather play an awesome game than sit around and tear people down?

If their kickstarter was to give everyone who backed it a Unicorn it would be great if they somehow delivered but I wouldn't be entertaining the idea that it's possible. Normally I'd agree with your sentiment but to me there hasn't been the slightest shred of evidence suggesting they can pull this off.

I've seen what SC has done to some people in real life. While it was the dudes own fault, I kind of want RSI to suffer some too, for their predatory practice of taking advantage of easy marks.

Sadly there are a lot of people who don't even care if they get taken advantage of. The number of people in the linked thread who have spent hundreds or thousands of dollars who say they don't care if they ever get a game is somewhat sickening.

[Margalis]

I will gloat if it fails for a few reasons:

1. I think it's very abusive and takes advantage of people in a way that would make scummy F2P mobile people blush.

2. I think it has been designed to fail, and I think a project that is designed to fail should fail, to teach everyone important lessons about game development, outlandish promises, etc

3. If it fails the hand-wringing and backlash will be amazing and I will enjoy reading it

That said I get that it would be cool if people got a great game, and I don't want individual RSI workers to go on welfare or something. In a perfect world it would fail but then Elite would become super awesome.

[Samprimary]

elite is probably going to hit a hard cap of quality soon. I wish the genre wasn't so parched that many hopes for it are riding on SC.

[Severian]

At Polygon: Star Citizen is reorganizing its teams, not conducting layoffs

"...we have been reviewing how to optimize our development process"

[Margalis]

TL;DR: "We aren't laying people off, we are instead merely laying people off."

[Malakili]

"Each of our four offices is being streamlined"


Uh huh.  I see.  Has this phrase ever been used to describe anything BUT people being laid off for financial reasons?

[HaemishM]

The very definition of streamlining something financial is to make it more efficient, usually by trimming unnecessary assets. So, no. It means people being laid off for financial reasons.

[jakonovski]

Not sure if Bloodworth, but here's some more scuttlebutt:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3lyfb1/david_jennison_former_lead_character_artist_in/

[Jeff Kelly]

So they've collected GTA kind of money from their backers. A budget that was sufficient for a Hideo Kojima to make MGS V and take five years for it (rumored budget for MGS V was 80 million) And they squandered enough of it so that they already have to reduce their workforce?

Only Chris Roberts...

Also key creative people leaving? It will only be a short while until the first people come forward and claim that RSI stopped paying bills. Expect another donation drive soon.

DS maybe being right. It truly is the end times...

[Lantyssa]

Surely we didn't pass over slavery yet and debtor's prison?

That's a great idea!  If someone went into debt over a virtual game, they can work off their debt by working on the virtual game.

[Samprimary]

It will only be a short while until the first people come forward and claim that RSI stopped paying bills.

i find that highly unlikely. if there's high profile quits, it's most likely just going to be that they can't stand working with roberts' arcane directives and tendency to switch horses mid-stream, from what it sounds like.

[tmp]

Not sure if Bloodworth, but here's some more scuttlebutt:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3lyfb1/david_jennison_former_lead_character_artist_in/

The next important factor is budget. Anyone who has worked in game art knows that quality is not measured in a vacuum. Quality only exists relative to the available budget- tris and pixels. You plan and build your character based on the budget you expect to have. When I started here, I was astounded to learn that no one was able to tell me the budget for character assets. People seemed to be operating under the mantra “It’s CryEngine, the budget is irrelevant” This attitude for game art production is suicide in a bottle. This apparently is still a difficult question to answer. In the absence of budget, Roberts judges all game assets against his own imagination or an asset in another game.

 

[Megrim]

Well this thread sure is paying dividends. 

Best investment I've ever made.

[schild]

When all of this is said and done, and "journalists" quit propping up Derek's actions here as something noble. He'll go back to being that giant asshole with an earring that makes shitty games.

There's no amount of relevancy he can squeeze from this stone to make him anything but that.

[Falconeer]

One thing has to be said about Serek Dmart. He really makes shitty games. He's so damn good at that.

[jakonovski]

Serek's earring really doesn't know how to make games.

[Tannhauser]

When all of this is said and done, and "journalists" quit propping up Derek's actions here as something noble. He'll go back to being that giant asshole with an earring that makes shitty games.

There's no amount of relevancy he can squeeze from this stone to make him anything but that.

Ayup.  I guess this is how he can keep his name in the news instead of, you know, making a game.

[Ironwood]

So is this going to crash and burn any time soon ?

[Falconeer]

Seems like it.

[Furiously]

So is this going to crash and burn any time soon ?

About two years ago.

[lamaros]

That letter sent to Dsmart was sad. Are their lawyers also Roberts' relatives, or just unprofessional idiots?

[rk47]

Roberts' fans are cheering though. So it must be good. 

[jakonovski]

Now who still says this game isn't progressing?

https://vimeo.com/140492032

[Margalis]

I can't wait until they announce that they are redoing every asset in the game again because they don't work with the gameplay systems.