Yep, reaching my fed-up point.

[WindupAtheist]

Getting into the low 30's, and it's really getting monotonous.  Like always.  I hear about all these cool instances, but I have no quests for them and can never find anyone doing them.  Blackfathom?  Shadowfang?  All I've ever done is Deadmines and Stockades, and I skipped Gnomeregan because it sucks.  Kill 10 of this, kill 10 of that, kill 10 tigers, kill 10 dinosaures, blah blah blah.  I group with some random douches, and even if they're not idiots I never see them again, or I outlevel them, or they outlevel me.

[Cheddar]

Getting into the low 30's, and it's really getting monotonous.  I hear about all these cool instances, but I have no quests for them and can never find anyone doing them.  Blackfathom?  Shadowfang?  All I've ever done is Deadmines and Stockades, and I skipped Gnomeregan because it sucks.  Kill 10 of this, kill 10 of that, kill 10 tigers, kill 10 dinosaures, blah blah blah.

You get Shadowfang around 16.  And it is awesome.  By far the bestest quest I have seen within WoW.  I still do it at level 54 (though it is not much of a challenge).  Its just that good.

[Strazos]

Only the last 20 minutes of Blackfathom is worth the trouble - the rest is cockblocking filler.

Same goes for most other instances.

[Fabricated]

If you're horde you get quests for Shadowfang Keep. I don't think there is a single alliance quest for the place, but the caster loot is so great you almost have to run it if you can get enough interested people.

Gnomeregan does kinda suck, but the quest reward for beating the boss there is awesome for plate wearers and leather wearers.

Also, try to ignore as much of stranglethorn vale as you can. That is the worst zone in the game as far as I'm concerned. Low 30's is...Desolace I think. If you're alliance I would heartily recommend doing Desolace since while it's kind of boring, it has a quest that leads to the Scarlet Monestary, which is a very fun instance IMO. Great rewards too.

[Merusk]

Desolace sucks more than anyplace else if you're Alliance.  The majority of the quests come from the Centaurs, which requires faction grinding up to the point they'll talk to you.  STV was definatly the better zone, with some Alterac Mountains & Southshore mixed-in.

[Trippy]

If you're horde you get quests for Shadowfang Keep. I don't think there is a single alliance quest for the place, but the caster loot is so great you almost have to run it if you can get enough interested people.

There's a Paladin quest there (for their hammer) and there's a Warlock quest there (robe if I remember correctly).

[Phred]

Desolace sucks more than anyplace else if you're Alliance.  The majority of the quests come from the Centaurs, which requires faction grinding up to the point they'll talk to you.  STV was definatly the better zone, with some Alterac Mountains & Southshore mixed-in.

Actually Desolace has a lot of quests other than the ones with centaur faction, they just aren't at nijel's point. There's a few over by the coast. One is started by reading a book that's in the wreckage where you find the lost journal from the guy from Adventurers's Inc. You won't notice he's a quest dude though unless you take the quest from his partner in IF adventurer's hall to go see him. Also there's a dude by the tower on the coast that starts a quest line and there's 2 or 3 quests spread around from the goblins in the huts.

There's a few zones where the quests aren't obvious and require some exploring to find. People complain that the game is too much on rails but then fail to find all the out of the way quests spread around. Other examples are in the Eastern Plaguelands where there's quests from people or objects in the various abandoned farm houses, and Arathi highlands where there's some stranded pirates that have a bunch of quests.

The most unobvious quest I've found is Sweet Amber, a L40 quest given by an npc up in the hills of Westfall. Also the one in feralis to rescue the caged sprite darters given by an npc hidden up a trail behind the tauren camp is kind of cool.

[Zetor]

Alliance instancing sucks ass below level 50ish... you're missing out on WC, SFK, RFK, RFD, and even getting to SM [the most important mid-level instance] is a huge pain in the ass, so there aren't many groups doing it. It does get better after the mid-40s though. And Stockades is the worst 'instance' in the game evar.

[yeah, I know those aren't "horde-only" instances per se, but good luck assembling a pug for them, especially on a pvp server.]


-- Z.

[Jayce]

Desolace sucks more than anyplace else if you're Alliance.  The majority of the quests come from the Centaurs, which requires faction grinding up to the point they'll talk to you.  STV was definatly the better zone, with some Alterac Mountains & Southshore mixed-in.

Actually Desolace has a lot of quests other than the ones with centaur faction, they just aren't at nijel's point. There's a few over by the coast. One is started by reading a book that's in the wreckage where you find the lost journal from the guy from Adventurers's Inc. You won't notice he's a quest dude though unless you take the quest from his partner in IF adventurer's hall to go see him. Also there's a dude by the tower on the coast that starts a quest line and there's 2 or 3 quests spread around from the goblins in the huts.

There's a few zones where the quests aren't obvious and require some exploring to find. People complain that the game is too much on rails but then fail to find all the out of the way quests spread around. Other examples are in the Eastern Plaguelands where there's quests from people or objects in the various abandoned farm houses, and Arathi highlands where there's some stranded pirates that have a bunch of quests.

The most unobvious quest I've found is Sweet Amber, a L40 quest given by an npc up in the hills of Westfall. Also the one in feralis to rescue the caged sprite darters given by an npc hidden up a trail behind the tauren camp is kind of cool.

There is also an escort quest given by a goblin on the road with a bunch of pack kodos.  It leads to spritfizzle (or whatever)'s hut, who has a kodo herding quest... though IMO that one is a bit too much of a pain.

[Chenghiz]

Pff, the kodo herding quest is one of my favorite in the game. You can find the kodos easily at the kodo graveyard to the west, and you get to have a kodo follow you around! It's great.

[Merusk]

I think he meant the escort was a pain.  I didn't know about that one, so I've never done it.

 I'd completly forgotten about all those other quests.  I just remembered avoiding Desolace after my first character because the faction grinding sucked ass.  Obviously, leveling in Desolace was pretty damn slow, particularly after the fun series of quests and events that was Darkshire. (Also the zone felt a lot bigger than it is.  I think things were just spread-out oddly and I was jonesing to hit 40 and get a mount.)

[Chenghiz]

Oh yeah, the escort quest is a pain, but you don't have to do it to get the kodo herding quest at the crossroads goblin hut.

[Phred]

I think he meant the escort was a pain.  I didn't know about that one, so I've never done it.

 I'd completly forgotten about all those other quests.  I just remembered avoiding Desolace after my first character because the faction grinding sucked ass.  Obviously, leveling in Desolace was pretty damn slow, particularly after the fun series of quests and events that was Darkshire. (Also the zone felt a lot bigger than it is.  I think things were just spread-out oddly and I was jonesing to hit 40 and get a mount.)

I've always had some good luck on drops while killing the Kolkar so I guess that has colored my opinion of that particular quest. It doesn't seem to take that long to get the faction up either to me so I guess mileage varies. To know true pain try grinding argent dawn faction from revered to exhalted on the scourge caldrons. Damn that one sucks ass. I'd almost rather endure pickup strath runs than do that but only almost.

[Xanthippe]

Getting into the low 30's, and it's really getting monotonous.

For alliance, it's always fun to go defend your farmers and allies up in Hillsbrad and Arathi.  One person in that dwarf keep in east Hillsbrad can kill off a group of Horde easily.  Although 30s might be a little high for it to be fun.  Mid-high 20s is good.  (I'm trying to remember what other areas are similar. Need more coffee.)

Desolace is good, 1000 Needles - racetrack and so on is different. 

I don't usually run instances because pickup groups are usually not fun at all.  Instances are great fun with a good group of people but so often there's at least one douchebag to spoil things.

[Morfiend]

Getting into the low 30's, and it's really getting monotonous.  Like always.  I hear about all these cool instances, but I have no quests for them and can never find anyone doing them.  Blackfathom?  Shadowfang?  All I've ever done is Deadmines and Stockades, and I skipped Gnomeregan because it sucks.  Kill 10 of this, kill 10 of that, kill 10 tigers, kill 10 dinosaures, blah blah blah.  I group with some random douches, and even if they're not idiots I never see them again, or I outlevel them, or they outlevel me.

Low 30s is where I always hit a wall playing alliance side. By that time you are just finishing up with Duskwood, imho, one of the best zones in the game, and your choices are north STV (with no flight path), Desolace (not a fun zone) or Hillsbrad, which is crawling with gankers. Its the same wall I usually hit on horbe side around level 38. I dont like many of the zones from 38ish to 50. Once you hit 50 the world really opens up again, you have Un'goro, East and West Plaguelands, Felwood, Azshara, Burning Steps, Blasted Lands, and Winterspring. Good times.

[AcidCat]

Kill 10 of this, kill 10 of that, kill 10 tigers, kill 10 dinosaures, blah blah blah.  I group with some random douches, and even if they're not idiots I never see them again, or I outlevel them, or they outlevel me.

My advice is just cancel your sub. Others have provided some advice that I could add to, but your complaints sound like they are about game basics that aren't going to change. If you're not having fun now, that won't magically change in 5 or 10 levels. Go ahead and cancel and be done with it.

[Jayce]

I think he meant the escort was a pain.  I didn't know about that one, so I've never done it.

 I'd completly forgotten about all those other quests.  I just remembered avoiding Desolace after my first character because the faction grinding sucked ass.  Obviously, leveling in Desolace was pretty damn slow, particularly after the fun series of quests and events that was Darkshire. (Also the zone felt a lot bigger than it is.  I think things were just spread-out oddly and I was jonesing to hit 40 and get a mount.)

Actually I did mean the herding quest.  That one seemed monotonous to me - go find a kodo, tame it, bring it back, repeat.  At least I was gaining xp and having to keep my eyes peeled on the escort.  But different strokes for different folks...

I didn't mind the faction grinding.  I guess I don't mind grinding in general as long as the spawn rate is high and the fights don't cause too much downtime.  If you are all about storyline and doing different things, though, yeah, there is a fair amount of sameness to it after a bit.  Didn't take me long to grind up friendly though - an hour or three I suppose, spread out over some time.

I agree with another poster that the racetrack is interesting.  Though it goes from kill quests to fedex quests, so if you don't like one or the other, that could be a problem.  Also, I'm on a PvP server which adds another dimension to that area.

[Fabricated]

The fucking forum ate my post, so I'll just give the short version.

I don't think sub 40 instancing sucks all that bad for the alliance.

The stockades is shit on a stick for phat lewtz, but it's very quick to clear, and tons of free EXP in the form of "Kill this guy" quests.

Gnomeregan isn't nearly as bad as people think it is. For a proper level group with one person knowing the layout, it can be really fun since you don't have to wade through the astounding amount of trash mobs. The bosses and non-trogg enemies at the last half are fun to fight, including the dark irons if you think enough to kill their goddamn mines. The fight with Thermaplugg is fun too since it's both dramatic and silly at the same time. His drops are great too obviously.

SM is amazingly annoying to get to, but totally worth the trip provided you aren't a rogue. Some good caster gear and lots of candy for warriors and shaman/hunters who have hit 40. Doesn't hurt that it's a fun instance with 4 relatively short wings.

Uldaman I'm not a fan of, but it's post 40.

[squirrel]

30 - 40 Allliance is my least favourite portion of the game. Progression is too spread out and the quests are nowhere near as inventive as the 1-29 and 40+ quests. If you push through it though it picks up at 40 and is more interesting zone wise and quest wise. Part of it for me too is that 30-40 is Stranglethorn Vale territory and that zone is gank central on my server.

[Fabricated]

You people and your silly PVP servers.

[Hoax]

Desolace was love at launch on a pvp server.  Even fights spread out all over the zone, lots of ganking and counter ganking.  Some of the most fun I ever had in WoW tbh.

[stray]

You people and your silly PVP servers.

Yeah, I'd be the first one to say that leveling on one sucks.....But the thought of being 60 on PvE server doesn't seem very exciting either.

[Lantyssa]

The stockades is shit on a stick for phat lewtz, but it's very quick to clear, and tons of free EXP in the form of "Kill this guy" quests.

At the very least, there is a nice quest ring from the Stockades that is worth getting.  (I think it required something from VanCleef, but it's been a while.)

[Driakos]

The stockades is shit on a stick for phat lewtz, but it's very quick to clear, and tons of free EXP in the form of "Kill this guy" quests.

At the very least, there is a nice quest ring from the Stockades that is worth getting.  (I think it required something from VanCleef, but it's been a while.)

There's a bunch.

You get the note from VanCleef.  There's one right outside the Stockades.  Some wandering NPC in Old Town has another.  Then there's one in Lakeshire (not sure if it has prereqs), and another in Duskwood.  I think there's a 6th, but I am drawing a blank.

Then after you finish them all, shit for loot!  Weee!

[Fabricated]

Actually, wait, I do remember that quest. It's a very long series that starts from a letter you get off Van Cleef.

You end up having to kill someone in the stockades, and then after a LOT of talking you have to assassinate a noble and his Defias cohort in the garden of Stormwind Keep. Heh, it was one of my very favorite quests since while it was still just killing someone, it had some really cool plot to it and made you really feel important.

You get this ring, which was upgraded from a piece of shit green to a very very nice Rare quality ring that should last most characters for 15-20 levels at least.

http://goblinworkshop.com/items/seal-of-wrynn.html

Being a rogue makes you feel really important too early on since the SI:7 has a set of questlines and plot unique to it...and then you get to Ravenholt and the fucking content runs out. ARGH

[Lantyssa]

That is the one.  My druid was still using it when I retired at 45.