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Riggswolfe
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Reply #2065 on: May 31, 2014, 06:09:22 PM

So, they have a an apparently permanent xp/currency bonus for attaching a Google authenticator. Kind of interest carrot to get people to use one. Their implementation though is terribly tedious. You need to mouse click randomized number locations for some reason instead of using a keyboard.

I do authenticators as a matter of course these days and the carrot worked well for me. That said, why are the damn numbers randomized and why can't I 10-key them? It's like...a minigame just to play the game!

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Reply #2066 on: May 31, 2014, 06:39:05 PM

So, they have a an apparently permanent xp/currency bonus for attaching a Google authenticator. Kind of interest carrot to get people to use one. Their implementation though is terribly tedious. You need to mouse click randomized number locations for some reason instead of using a keyboard.

Supposed to be an extra layer of security against keyloggers. It is really annoying though.
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Reply #2067 on: May 31, 2014, 06:57:18 PM

Would have to be the world's most elaborate and fast keylogger+bot mechanism to keylog the number, send it to the hackers, they log into your account and change your password before the 20 seconds or so it takes for the code to time out.

Pretty sure they just want to force you to do twitchy shit before you log in as a warm up for the game awesome, for real.
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Reply #2068 on: May 31, 2014, 07:34:24 PM

Would have to be the world's most elaborate and fast keylogger+bot mechanism to keylog the number, send it to the hackers, they log into your account and change your password before the 20 seconds or so it takes for the code to time out.
Yes, and trojans meeting that description actually exist for WoW. Remember max level WoW accounts are worth more than creditcards on the open market.

That said, the onscreen keypad with randomized locations is way over the limit for annoyance.
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Reply #2069 on: June 01, 2014, 08:12:26 AM

What's wrong with that raid attunement? The majority of that stuff can be done solo or with a group of 5 people. Those open world raid bosses that you have to kill appear is every single zone, the first one is level 15 or something.

The majority of you don't even like to raid so what is the difference? I find it silly that you guys enjoy a game that gives you a list of shitty thing to do just to hit level 50 (kill 10 pigs, collect bear asses, play UPS delivery guy) yet when the game gives you a list of marginal tasks to raid you're all up in arms and aghast. Talk about F13 being F13 to retard levels.

I can't personally raid because I don't have that time anymore with a 1 year old in the house. That doesn't mean I can't enjoy 98% of the content in the game and enjoy the other 2% through friends and others on the internet.

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Reply #2070 on: June 01, 2014, 08:22:55 AM

What's wrong with that raid attunement? The majority of that stuff can be done solo or with a group of 5 people. Those open world raid bosses that you have to kill appear is every single zone, the first one is level 15 or something.

The majority of you don't even like to raid so what is the difference? I find it silly that you guys enjoy a game that gives you a list of shitty thing to do just to hit level 50 (kill 10 pigs, collect bear asses, play UPS delivery guy) yet when the game gives you a list of marginal tasks to raid you're all up in arms and aghast. Talk about F13 being F13 to retard levels.

I can't personally raid because I don't have that time anymore with a 1 year old in the house. That doesn't mean I can't enjoy 98% of the content in the game and enjoy the other 2% through friends and others on the internet.



Not even to kill Space-Hitler in real life and rule an empire would that attunement thing be worth doing. That's poopsock, battlestation burried in Mountain Dew bottles and Hot Pocket wrappers level of Fishbone Earings bad old days. Just the idea that it exists is terrible. The fact that I really liked the look of the game until they revealed it was being made by gaggle of retards doesn't help.

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Reply #2071 on: June 01, 2014, 08:24:50 AM

What's wrong with that raid attunement? The majority of that stuff can be done solo or with a group of 5 people. Those open world raid bosses that you have to kill appear is every single zone, the first one is level 15 or something.

The main and biggest thing that is wrong with it is that it exists at all, if you build a raiding game you should be encouraging people to raid not cockblocking them.

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The majority of you don't even like to raid so what is the difference? I find it silly that you guys enjoy a game that gives you a list of shitty thing to do just to hit level 50 (kill 10 pigs, collect bear asses, play UPS delivery guy) yet when the game gives you a list of marginal tasks to raid you're all up in arms and aghast. Talk about F13 being F13 to retard levels.

The difference is that putting such a major focus into this part of the game means the parts that are actually enjoyable suffer as a result.

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Reply #2072 on: June 01, 2014, 08:43:22 AM

I find it silly that you guys enjoy a game

No one here has enjoyed a game in years far as I can tell  awesome, for real
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Reply #2073 on: June 01, 2014, 09:48:58 AM

What's wrong with that raid attunement? The majority of that stuff can be done solo or with a group of 5 people. Those open world raid bosses that you have to kill appear is every single zone, the first one is level 15 or something.

The majority of you don't even like to raid so what is the difference? I find it silly that you guys enjoy a game that gives you a list of shitty thing to do just to hit level 50 (kill 10 pigs, collect bear asses, play UPS delivery guy) yet when the game gives you a list of marginal tasks to raid you're all up in arms and aghast. Talk about F13 being F13 to retard levels.

I can't personally raid because I don't have that time anymore with a 1 year old in the house. That doesn't mean I can't enjoy 98% of the content in the game and enjoy the other 2% through friends and others on the internet.



Not even to kill Space-Hitler in real life and rule an empire would that attunement thing be worth doing. That's poopsock, battlestation burried in Mountain Dew bottles and Hot Pocket wrappers level of Fishbone Earings bad old days. Just the idea that it exists is terrible. The fact that I really liked the look of the game until they revealed it was being made by gaggle of retards doesn't help.

Amusing post to say the least.
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Reply #2074 on: June 01, 2014, 10:02:26 AM



The main and biggest thing that is wrong with it is that it exists at all, if you build a raiding game you should be encouraging people to raid not cockblocking them.


The difference is that putting such a major focus into this part of the game means the parts that are actually enjoyable suffer as a result.

Whats wrong with that list other than it being long? Or maybe that's it? You don't like that it's a long list of stuff I suppose?

Here's another attunement list you missed with Wildstar, it's for unlocking Veteran/Heroic Dungeons:

Finish Zone 1,2,3..10
-Each zone you must Complete 100 tasks
-Each zone you must gain SuperHonor Reputation
You must complete 5 dungeons.
You must earn 5000000 experience.
*Note: This may take anywhere between 48 hours and 74 hours of play time.

Oh shit that's some poopsocking there. Oh wait, it's just a normal leveling experience.
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Reply #2075 on: June 01, 2014, 10:19:39 AM



The main and biggest thing that is wrong with it is that it exists at all, if you build a raiding game you should be encouraging people to raid not cockblocking them.


The difference is that putting such a major focus into this part of the game means the parts that are actually enjoyable suffer as a result.

Whats wrong with that list other than it being long? Or maybe that's it? You don't like that it's a long list of stuff I suppose?

Here's another attunement list you missed with Wildstar, it's for unlocking Veteran/Heroic Dungeons:

Finish Zone 1,2,3..10
-Each zone you must Complete 100 tasks
-Each zone you must gain SuperHonor Reputation
You must complete 5 dungeons.
You must earn 5000000 experience.
*Note: This may take anywhere between 48 hours and 74 hours of play time.

Oh shit that's some poopsocking there. Oh wait, it's just a normal leveling experience.


For an XP grinder I guess. The only thing I see this doing is slowing down the rapid leveling crew by a few hours, otherwise it is a cockblock for the rest of the community. Thankfully I am not in that community, but still. This kinda thing I thought went out of style in 2005. I haven't ruled out buying this just yet, but these are the type of things I don't want to have to deal with IF I CHOOSE to eventually do Heroics. So as it stands, this will influence my purchase.

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Reply #2076 on: June 01, 2014, 10:39:05 AM


From the amount of spew on the official forums you'd think no one was able to log in to the Headstart.  I had patched up the client the day before and when I got off work yesterday evening PST I was able to get logged in and create characters on Avatus just fine, no queue or anything.  I used the Google authenticator; a little awkward but not too bad.

I picked Avatus because I thought I read some F13 people were going to play there.  And it was an open PvE server.

So - if any F13 folk want to party up for some levelling let's coordinate.  I'm not going to be doing any content beyond the standard dungeons and PvE stuff but I'd love to have some people to chat with / roll around and level.

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Reply #2077 on: June 01, 2014, 11:20:08 AM

I picked Avatus, too, for the same reason.  I'm a Dominion/warrior/soldier/I dunno named Gynoid.  I only just started, however, so I'm like level four.  I also made an Exile/stalker/explorer (I think) named Stabbitha on the same server.

I have a question.  I can transfer all my addon and Carbine settings all at one time but I can't seem to make my chat options sticky.  I set them and next time I log in and sometime just randomly, they reset.  Having a time stamp, certain channels, etc. annoys me.  Is this a bug or is there something I can do about it?

I really like this game, for the most part.  I don't know how long I'll play, maybe a few months, but then I'm very fickle.

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Reply #2078 on: June 01, 2014, 11:33:10 AM

Ouch, Avatus is supposed to be the unofficial Brazilian server. I suggest rethinking it. Unless you're Brazilian, of course.

As for the veteran dungeon attunements, they assume you leveled through questing; if you leveled through PvP you're screwed.
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Reply #2079 on: June 01, 2014, 11:54:33 AM



The main and biggest thing that is wrong with it is that it exists at all, if you build a raiding game you should be encouraging people to raid not cockblocking them.


The difference is that putting such a major focus into this part of the game means the parts that are actually enjoyable suffer as a result.

Whats wrong with that list other than it being long? Or maybe that's it? You don't like that it's a long list of stuff I suppose?

Here's another attunement list you missed with Wildstar, it's for unlocking Veteran/Heroic Dungeons:

Finish Zone 1,2,3..10
-Each zone you must Complete 100 tasks
-Each zone you must gain SuperHonor Reputation
You must complete 5 dungeons.
You must earn 5000000 experience.
*Note: This may take anywhere between 48 hours and 74 hours of play time.

Oh shit that's some poopsocking there. Oh wait, it's just a normal leveling experience.


For an XP grinder I guess. The only thing I see this doing is slowing down the rapid leveling crew by a few hours, otherwise it is a cockblock for the rest of the community. Thankfully I am not in that community, but still. This kinda thing I thought went out of style in 2005. I haven't ruled out buying this just yet, but these are the type of things I don't want to have to deal with IF I CHOOSE to eventually do Heroics. So as it stands, this will influence my purchase.

Not sure what you're getting at. If you want to do heroic dungeons, you're more likely than not to have the gear to doing heroics once you ding 50. You might not have the stuff for tanking assuming you leveled as a DPS. The whole point of my post is that being aghast at the raid attunement is silly because the whole game is about gating content and progressing through those gates in many different forms.

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Reply #2080 on: June 01, 2014, 01:00:10 PM

Ouch, Avatus is supposed to be the unofficial Brazilian server. I suggest rethinking it. Unless you're Brazilian, of course.

As for the veteran dungeon attunements, they assume you leveled through questing; if you leveled through PvP you're screwed.

Interesting, I had no idea.  I didn't see anything overtly...Brazilian...in chat or anywhere last night, but maybe I don't know what I'm looking for (is there a separate language channel maybe?)

Sam: I'm not interested in PvP or RP, so what's the "unofficial" regular PvE server(s)?  I know the game servers are located in Texas, but I'm PST so that's probably my only issue - looking for a player base that's PST.

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Reply #2081 on: June 01, 2014, 01:28:41 PM

Stormtalon was always full, so I picked Avatus because it was next on the list, and not full.  I haven't seen anyone speaking Portugese, though.

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Reply #2082 on: June 01, 2014, 03:15:59 PM

The main and biggest thing that is wrong with it is that it exists at all, if you build a raiding game you should be encouraging people to raid not cockblocking them.
Whats wrong with that list other than it being long? Or maybe that's it? You don't like that it's a long list of stuff I suppose?
Wasn't your question already answered in the very post you're replying to? The existence of long list of required stuff is bad when it's used to cockblock people from activity, when said activity requires bunch of people to be eligible for it, just to have it happen.
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Reply #2083 on: June 01, 2014, 04:14:42 PM

There are no timezoned servers, everything is located in Texas and all of America goes there. I said Avatus is the unofficial Brazilian server just because a bunch of Brazilian guilds happened to pick it.
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Reply #2084 on: June 01, 2014, 04:43:55 PM

So....when's everyone coming back to WoW for Outland 2: Electric Boogaloo?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #2085 on: June 01, 2014, 04:52:42 PM

I don't see this game driving people to WoW.  The people that come back were coming back anyways.

WoW would have to pull something like getting people the old expansions for free.
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Reply #2086 on: June 01, 2014, 05:24:52 PM

I chose the Brazilian server because my robot lady has no hair.

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Reply #2087 on: June 01, 2014, 05:40:17 PM

So....when's everyone coming back to WoW for Outland 2: Electric Boogaloo?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

Not even playing another mmo but wow is just getting old....and expensive.

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Reply #2088 on: June 01, 2014, 05:55:58 PM

Yeah, GW2 is my "default" mmo now.  No subs and no expansions to keep track off.  And the only goal is to be the prettiest princess at the ball.

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Reply #2089 on: June 01, 2014, 06:05:30 PM

TERA's my default MMO-fix now that WoW sucks and CoH is gone. EQ2 occasionally too, but going back there usually requires me to buy an xpac so it happens less often.

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Reply #2090 on: June 01, 2014, 06:44:21 PM

Brazilians roll for everything - even shit they already have, just so they can disenchant.
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Reply #2091 on: June 01, 2014, 06:51:57 PM

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Reply #2092 on: June 01, 2014, 07:12:00 PM

Brazilians speak Portuguese, though.

They were always terrible to be around in WoW and WoT, so it doesn't surprise me the same would be here.  They did the same "always roll need" thing in WoW, too. I was never happy after they started rolling their servers into the PUG queues.

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Reply #2093 on: June 01, 2014, 07:36:10 PM

While the pre-orders are busy doing the queue dance, here's the attunement details for the entry level raid:

Spoilered to save me from scrolling so much.


Are they serious?
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Reply #2094 on: June 01, 2014, 08:13:34 PM

How much of it do you have to repeat on every alt you want to raid with? (Not that it isn't absurd for even a single character.)

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Reply #2095 on: June 01, 2014, 09:03:24 PM

Don't forget that's for the "entry level" raid, too.
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Reply #2096 on: June 01, 2014, 09:05:43 PM

Yeah, I'm out.

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Reply #2097 on: June 01, 2014, 09:16:10 PM

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Reply #2098 on: June 01, 2014, 10:04:41 PM

For those on Avatus (like myself), I'm in a guild called "The Drunk Tanks."  Dominion PvX, mature, Medium-hardcore, no app needed, open admission with the new auto-recruit addon.  Seem like a good enough crowd so far with the numbers to make things happen.

Here are the deets:
http://thedrunktanks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=67

They use Mumble:
http://thedrunktanks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15

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Reply #2099 on: June 02, 2014, 02:09:29 AM

Brazilians speak Portuguese, though.

They were always terrible to be around in WoW and WoT, so it doesn't surprise me the same would be here.  They did the same "always roll need" thing in WoW, too. I was never happy after they started rolling their servers into the PUG queues.

I don't know about WoW but they (and most south of the US border types) are awful in WoT.  If most of my team starts typing in Spanish or Portuguese, I know we're doomed.  Even if you ask them nicely to type their messages in English in team chat, they start acting like dicks and curse you out...in English. Ohhhhh, I see.

BTW, I rolled on the RP-PVE server, Evindra, like I always do now with MMOs.  I find there's less ass hats on RP servers.
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