SWTOR

[Sky]

I can't wait for fat ass Jedi.

Any SWG players remember Weezie, my dancer? I can't find the screenshot anymore (you're welcome) of her doing a jump split that was horrifying. Max weight, blonde afro, whore makeup, full aged effect; dressed in red shoes and nothing else (the default panties morphed into massive grannie panties); carried a knife, because a lady can't be too careful. She used to accept tips to stop dancing and put on clothes.

Ah, FOUND IT. So solly, cholly:

[Mrbloodworth]

Dear god. 

[Hawkbit]

That's some really funny stuff.  Normally that crap peeves me off, but you did a classy number there.

[luckton]

There's a lot more articles and vids out popping up out there, but nothing new besides what's already been said.  The show ends today, so unless they've got something up their sleeve for the last day, it's back to waiting on the weekly Friday updates.

Of course, the rumor is that BW will troll the world by announcing something big for this Friday's update...like beta or release date news

[Murgos]

Wishful thinking.  They've shown/announced what they intended.

[Sky]

They're going to announce that Daniel can actually take a nap now.

[Mnemon]

Screenshots from character customization from the E3 floor.

pretty sure these are leaked from beta and not taken during E3.

from the post they came from ... "All of us here are currently still basking in the glow of the blissful presentations from the Big 3 at E3.  So when our resident Star Wars geeks stumbled upon this gem, they understandably went into a nerdgasm-induced coma.  So I’m here to deliver unto you folks screenshots of the character creation screens from the SWTOR beta."

otherwise ... why block out the character name?

[Evildrider]

Aww I wish I could recreate my fat Bothan Jedi from SWG.   

[Murgos]

http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/tatooine-developer-walkthrough

Hi quality vid of the quest part of the Tatooine demo.  If you click the down arrow you can dl it in Hi-Def.

[Rasix]

otherwise ... why block out the character name?

If you want to get super paranoid about it, some of us use a rather predictable pattern of character names.  If you saw a character with name "Rasix McFthirteen" (no idea if they allow last names), you might have some ideas on who's in the beta.

[schild]

Is this in this thread yet? Don't care:



Whole beta is 40GB. Lololololololol. (Yes, I'm aware that shows a 18GB chunk.)

From Reddit:

18.2GB just for that one section of the download, I already downloaded 10GB of videos right before that. When you're installing it asks you to have 42GB of free space.

[Rasix]

Grrr.

[schild]

Oh, I didn't get in. Not sure Bat Country as a guild would either since I've called the team everything short of a pack of chimps on nearly every page in this thread.

There's nothing not hilarious about this though.

[Lucas]

http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/tatooine-developer-walkthrough

Hi quality vid of the quest part of the Tatooine demo.  If you click the down arrow you can dl it in Hi-Def.

Well, I really really enjoyed this walkthrough. If all the game (and each class storyline, beside the sidequest grinds) is like this, definitely sign me in, boring mmo combat or not.

[Fordel]

40 gigs 

[Threash]

Ok, this is not going to be a digital purchase.

[Velorath]

Mass Effect 2 with all the DLC comes in at around 14.5GB I think, so I can't really say that 40GB for an MMO with an equally heavy focus on VO surprises me.

[amiable]

My wife just got into the beta and she spent all of last night furiously cursing the downloader/installer.  I sat in the corner and glowered at her.

[Lucas]

I wonder if they shoot off some invites "across the pond" too, considering that about 4 weeks ago they sent out a mail to us poor europeans saying that game testing would start soon.

Regarding the size of the client, damnit, just do it UO 1997 style and ship a couple DVDs to each person you invite  :P

[Hawkbit]

Wouldn't that be more like 10 DVDs?  Or do dual layer DVDs hold 8.6?  LOL either way.  40gig client...

[Fordel]

It wasn't THAT long ago that my biggest partition was 40 gigs. 

[MuffinMan]

Didn't think having a 60gb SSD would screw me over this quickly. I can usually keep a couple games installed at a time on it, guess this will go straight to the other drive.

[luckton]

Scaling of technology.  We live in a day where even an eMachine comes with a 750GB drive.  40G is not asking a lot on it's own.  Canadians and AT&T users will probably hate getting the digital copy though  

[Sky]

Yay corporate greed getting in the way of steam pre-loading. Now I get to take the chance of waiting days for an amazon.com delivery or driving 20 miles to best buy and hoping they have a couple in stock on launch day. Thanks, EA.

Unless somehow they're going to suddenly and magically become competent and have a couple weeks of pre-load so their servers don't get destroyed by people downloading something with five hundred bajillion hours of voice overs. I'm sure that's it.

[Malakili]

Scaling of technology.  We live in a day where even an eMachine comes with a 750GB drive.  40G is not asking a lot on it's own.  Canadians and AT&T users will probably hate getting the digital copy though  

Is there any guess on how much of this is audio, just for the lulz?

[01101010]

Wouldn't that be more like 10 DVDs?  Or do dual layer DVDs hold 8.6?  LOL either way.  40gig client...

I recall undergrad and having my friend saying he had a cracked copy of Wolfenstein 3d - would always get some error on disc 7 or 8 and have to reload the whole god damn thing again. What is new is old again   

[UnSub]

And the kind of people who scramble to (and end up actually playing) in MMO betas are usually a bunch of jaded neckbeards who are looking for a form of robot-jesus that takes their previous favorite MMO (usually EQ or one of the games that WoW trounced) and makes it 'better' because "people will gobble a game with "depth" and a "huge world" etc., etc.

I see this as a reason why open betas are so important, actually. It gives the non-neckbeard a chance to log in and see the game and provide feedback. In my experience (from the player side) a very different group of people show up in open betas than do in closed betas.

I completely accept that the SWOR servers on launch day are going to be pounded harder than a first-time porn starlet who says, "Well, I guess I could give anal a try...", but skipping the open beta due to 'the interference of competitors' is like a company not taking their new car out onto the open road in case someone says something bad about it. You need something approaching real world testing prior to a title entering the real world. I don't know how BioWare is running their closed beta tests, but WAR stands as a case where closed beta responses can be distorted because players aren't actually playing the full game, just concentrated sections.

If a competitor wants to disrupt SWOR in an illicit fashion - and they don't, because that's a lawsuit of epic proportions - they'll find a way of doing it open beta or not. No open beta really means the majority have to buy the box to play.

Also: 40GB is bigger than my monthly download plan.

[Paelos]

We're gonna need a bigger boat.

[Tarami]

Scaling of technology.  We live in a day where even an eMachine comes with a 750GB drive.  40G is not asking a lot on it's own.  Canadians and AT&T users will probably hate getting the digital copy though  

Is there any guess on how much of this is audio, just for the lulz?

Well, if we assume the rest is 20ish gigabytes given other MMOs (LotRO is 15, after four years of expansions,) that leaves 20... which, encoded as, say, 128 kbps MP3 which should be fine for this, makes for 340 hours of voice-over.

As a comparison, the unabridged "A Game of Thrones" audiobook clocks in at 33 hours, based on an 800 page book.

Sooo... 8000 pages of dialogue?

[Rasix]

My WoW folder weighs in at 29 GB.     That's all expansions included. 

[Montague]

Scaling of technology.  We live in a day where even an eMachine comes with a 750GB drive.  40G is not asking a lot on it's own.  Canadians and AT&T users will probably hate getting the digital copy though  

Is there any guess on how much of this is audio, just for the lulz?

Well, if we assume the rest is 20ish gigabytes given other MMOs (LotRO is 15, after four years of expansions,) that leaves 20... which, encoded as, say, 128 kbps MP3 which should be fine for this, makes for 340 hours of voice-over.

As a comparison, the unabridged "A Game of Thrones" audiobook clocks in at 33 hours, based on an 800 page book.

Sooo... 8000 pages of dialogue?

Rough napkin math: Daniel Erickson said at E3 that SWTOR had 60 novels worth of dialogue. The average genre novel has about 80,000 words, so 4.8 million. Audiobooks are generally read at 150 words per minute so that would translate to about 32000 minutes, or 533.33 hours of spoken dialogue. Give or take.

[Draegan]

nm Didn't read the next page!

[01101010]

Rough napkin math: Daniel Erickson said at E3 that SWTOR had 60 novels worth of dialogue. The average genre novel has about 80,000 words, so 4.8 million. Audiobooks are generally read at 150 words per minute so that would translate to about 32000 minutes, or 533.33 hours of spoken dialogue. Give or take.

Even if that is +/- 200 off, that is  

As it stands now, some quests I read thru, others I skip. I can't imagine how long a quest will take to start when you choose to listen to the whole dialog let alone go and do. And I would just have to sit here and listen to it all. So if those figures are even close, and I play roughly 10 hours a week, how many months sub are they guaranteed to get outta me if I wanted to hear 90% of the dialog?

[Draegan]

It's like trying to see and read everything at the Smithsonian.

[Samprimary]

Rough napkin math: Daniel Erickson said at E3 that SWTOR had 60 novels worth of dialogue.

30 novels of that is "ha ha, i don't like you, prepare to die in this way!"