The Elder Scrolls Online

[Hawkbit]

I read somewhere a few weeks ago (and can't locate the source) that they believe selling only "a fraction" of the copies they did for Skyrim will get them TESO production costs back.  It wasn't specified what that fraction value was but they seem confident they'll go profitable from box sales. 

I wish I could find that source.

I'd wager at this point most major MMOs have a business plan in place before launch to transition to F2P. 

[Paelos]

Skyrim sold 20 million copes plus. Unless that fraction is 10%, they ain't touching that.

[Miasma]

Do we know what Bethesda proper is working on right now?  If it's the next fallout instead of skyrim they would have time to let the ESO... fallout, blowover.

I'm sorry but that pun would have haunted me had I not used it.

Also, I'm buying the game regardless.  I know enough other people playing that it will be fun for long enough to get my money's worth.

[Tannhauser]

Fallout: Boston I've heard.

[Samprimary]

Fallout: Boston I've heard.

Mattapan?

[Stormwaltz]

I for one welcome our mutant Southie overlords.

[Nebu]

I for one welcome our mutant Southie overlords.

Do you like apples? 

[Tannhauser]

[Lakov_Sanite]

I gotta use mah snipah rifle on dat mutaant ovah dere.

[Riggswolfe]

Well, I got another beta invite. This one allows me to play with the perks of the Imperial Edition. I am not sure whether this is testing that edition out before release or a desperate attempt to sell more copies of said Imperial edition. I did notice that the pre-order now has "play any race in any alliance. (I think before only Imperials could be in any alliance) " So...basically....you can be a Dark Elf in any alliance, a Nord in any alliance, etc. There goes the 'lore' behind each alliance.

[Threash]

No, that was always there for preorders.

[Signe]

IGN sent emails that they have beta keys.  I'm sure other places have them too.  It's probably pretty easy to get one now if you want.  I have an extra one if anyone wants it.

[Nevermore]

I wonder if the key I had for the last beta will still work for this one.  I guess I'll find out this weekend.  I'm mostly just curious to see if there's any improvement on the animation/combat front.

[Paelos]

IGN sent emails that they have beta keys.  I'm sure other places have them too.  It's probably pretty easy to get one now if you want.  I have an extra one if anyone wants it.

They are begging people to try it.

[Tannhauser]

I wonder if the key I had for the last beta will still work for this one.  I guess I'll find out this weekend.  I'm mostly just curious to see if there's any improvement on the animation/combat front.

I got an email today about the beta.  Your key should work.  Also combat and the starting area have been revamped.  You can even test the Imperial race, you know the race that's too good for the average subscriber.

[Lucas]

Do we know what Bethesda proper is working on right now?  If it's the next fallout instead of skyrim they would have time to let the ESO... fallout, blowover.

I'm sorry but that pun would have haunted me had I not used it.

Also, I'm buying the game regardless.  I know enough other people playing that it will be fun for long enough to get my money's worth.

Regarding the Elder Scrolls series, I can't find a quote, but I remember a developer who said, with reference to Skyrim, that its development cycle started shortly after Oblivion, basically. I imagine the next "standalone" chapter is already well in pre-production. Given the huge success of Skyrim, it's a no brainer, really, no matter how the MMOG will fare.

[Falconeer]

The most important change for me is that they enable collision detection AT LEAST in PvE. I don't think that will magically make combat more engaging, but it's something. This game is a bag full of disappointment though, no miracle patch is gonna save it. Eventually, only years of content and improvements will be able to make it into a nice, sweet F2P title worth considering for a run with friends in late 2015.

[Lucas]

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/03/13/limited-edition-heros-guides-to-the-elder-scrolls-online

http://store.bethsoft.com/media/the-heros-guides-to-the-elder-scrolls-online.html

I must admit that if this (meaning, this particular merchandise) was done by "Bethesda proper" for the launch of a single-player chapter, I might have purchased it (and yes, this is different and not different at the same time, I know it).

[Riggswolfe]

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/03/13/limited-edition-heros-guides-to-the-elder-scrolls-online

http://store.bethsoft.com/media/the-heros-guides-to-the-elder-scrolls-online.html

I must admit that if this (meaning, this particular merchandise) was done by "Bethesda proper" for the launch of a single-player chapter, I might have purchased it (and yes, this is different and not different at the same time, I know it).

Can I get them without buying the game?

[Lucas]

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/03/13/limited-edition-heros-guides-to-the-elder-scrolls-online

http://store.bethsoft.com/media/the-heros-guides-to-the-elder-scrolls-online.html

I must admit that if this (meaning, this particular merchandise) was done by "Bethesda proper" for the launch of a single-player chapter, I might have purchased it (and yes, this is different and not different at the same time, I know it).

Can I get them without buying the game?

Looking at the store page I linked...yeah, seems so, it lists only the  books/guides.

[Mattemeo]

It's always a good sign when you download/install the game and reboot the patcher after a known fault to be asked if you want to migrate to the EU megaserver based on your location... and when you decline, it asks you if you really don't want to migrate to the EU megaserver and you decline again... so the launcher sets itself as 'The Elder Scrolls Online - EU' anyway and attempts to download all 22gigs worth of the game all over again and you have to manually switch to the NA megaserver yourself to patch normally. Quite why you'd need two seperate clients to play on either server cluster is beyond me, let alone why the Launcher is incapable of accepting a straight answer twice. Beta is beta and all that, but these are pretty egregious and front-loaded fuckups.

[KallDrexx]

It's always a good sign when you download/install the game and reboot the patcher after a known fault to be asked if you want to migrate to the EU megaserver based on your location... and when you decline, it asks you if you really don't want to migrate to the EU megaserver and you decline again... so the launcher sets itself as 'The Elder Scrolls Online - EU' anyway and attempts to download all 22gigs worth of the game all over again and you have to manually switch to the NA megaserver yourself to patch normally. Quite why you'd need two seperate clients to play on either server cluster is beyond me, let alone why the Launcher is incapable of accepting a straight answer twice. Beta is beta and all that, but these are pretty egregious and front-loaded fuckups.

Maybe they are taking the cue from DAOC and haveing European servers several versions behind   

[Ingmar]

Or maybe regional censorship something something? That is odd.

[KallDrexx]

Apparently the update process is pretty dumb

The Elder Scrolls Online beta client requires 27 GB on the computer's hard drive. At least 60 GB are needed to perform the download and installation operations, and furthermore, a computer needs about 15% of its hard drive space to be empty to run properly.

[HaemishM]

 

[Paelos]

 

[WayAbvPar]

How long until the 'oh, it also deletes the Boot.ini file on your hard drive' post?

[Tannhauser]

Who's playing, how is the newbie update? My laptop is in the shop.

[tmp]

The 15% free space sounds fishy as it ran for me pretty well without it, but 60 gb for installation looks about right.

It also likes to leave ~30gb of trash stuff in its directory after you uninstall it, too.

[Threash]

Who's playing, how is the newbie update? My laptop is in the shop.

The newbie update is basically skipping the newbie island after the tutorial.  Which is an improvement.

[Cadaverine]

Tried an Imperial Templar this time.  Made it to level 3, and quit when I had to go kill some assassins on a boat, and there was a dozen plus people milling around waiting to kill it as soon as it spawned.  I'll just stick to playing Oblivion, and Skyrim.

[Venkman]

You didn't want to spawn camp or wait for the players to create their own rotation?!

Lightweight.*

 

* In all seriousness, fuck that old school shit 10 years ago like it should be.

[Kageru]

Since both of these sound like flops what's the next big hope on the MMO horizon? It's a sad situation when EQ:Next is the best hope for a decent MMO (and SOE will find a way to fail).

[Modern Angel]

Bearing in mind that I actually like TESO, I haven't felt the savior of MMO buzz from anything since AOC and WAR launching. I felt like those launches took a lot of wind out of everyone's sails and that everything since then has been "just another game" style buzz. Which can still be solid buzz, just not the sort of thing we used to see.

[Lantyssa]

Since both of these sound like flops what's the next big hope on the MMO horizon? It's a sad situation when EQ:Next is the best hope for a decent MMO (and SOE will find a way to fail).

I'm thinking Star Citizen.

Right now it's EQ Next, though I'm not getting my hopes up.  I can't think of anything else that's been announced.  As long as the only thing being put out attempts to be bigger and better than the last MMO instead of just a solid game it will continue that way.