Sucker Punch

[ghost]

Wait, I thought someone was going to explain how there was a usenet group to talk about how good Battlefield Earth was/is.  I hope there is one.

[Chimpy]

Wait, I thought someone was going to explain how there was a usenet group to talk about how good Battlefield Earth was/is.  I hope there is one.

WUA is secretly the chairman of the Battlefield Earth Movie Appreciation Society of North America, true story!

[WindupAtheist]

Well I was, but right now I'm all about a little science fiction flick that seems to have slipped under everyone's radar. It's actually pretty old, but it has the same high average user rating as Serenity, and if user ratings mean anything then I figure it's probably pretty good. The Smurf They Call Astrosmurf has all the makings of a forgotten classic.

Then there's this super hero thing. Man when it comes to user ratings it scores 0.7 higher than the first Spider-Man, 0.3 higher than the first X-Men, and even 0.1 higher than Batman Begins! So you know it has to be fucking awesome. It's a VHS tape of two episodes of Captain Planet.

 

[Ironwood]

 

[Sir T]

Captain Planet, he's our hero
Gonna take pollution down to zero

He's our powers magnified
And he's fighting on the planet's side

Captain Planet, he's our hero
Gonna take pollution down to zero

Gonna help him put asunder
Bad guys who like to loot and plunder

"You'll pay for this Captain Planet!"

We're the Planeteers
You can be one too
'Cause saving our planet is the thing to do!

Looting and polluting is not the way
Hear what Captain Planet has to say!

"The Power is Yours!"

[Bunk]

Wait, I thought someone was going to explain how there was a usenet group to talk about how good Battlefield Earth was/is.  I hope there is one.

WUA is secretly the chairman of the Battlefield Earth Movie Appreciation Society of North America, true story!

*Ahem*

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People try and find meaning in the most fuckstupid things. Its a natural progression of the "QWTF WAS THAT ABOUT?? I can't have just watched a 2 hour directors excuse for a wank movie!"

Honestly, I was expecting a wank film when I went to see this. My oppinion after watching it, is that if you want to wank off to the posters, or just the battle sequences taken by themselves - go ahead, they were sexy as hell. If you actually watched this whole movie through and still wanted to wank off, I have to think there is something a little wrong with you. This movie alternates between uber hot sexy excitement, and scenes designed to remid you that the previous scene took place inside a young girl's head while she was being exploited and or abused.

As to finding meaning - it's something I like to do. I'm not looking for philisophical enlightment from this story, I just want to see if I can figure out what the writer was going for.

[WindupAtheist]

Speaking of wank films, I present the most user-adored thing I've found on Rotten Tomatoes. Okay I'm done with this tangent now.

[01101010]

Speaking of wank films, I present the most user-adored thing I've found on Rotten Tomatoes. Okay I'm done with this tangent now.

[Paelos]

Speaking of wank films, I present the most user-adored thing I've found on Rotten Tomatoes. Okay I'm done with this tangent now.

 

[Sir T]

[WindupAtheist]

Yeah I love how you can have raunchy whores in a movie (in general, haven't seen this one) and as long as they do karate it's all good and empowering and shit.

[Samwise]

I just love how you can have raunchy whores in a movie.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I love raunchy whores.

[Paelos]

Whores.

[Ratman_tf]

I kinda wanna see Sucker Punch in the theater now. It sounds at least mildly interesting, even if it is bad. I'll prolly wait till DVD though.

[Johny Cee]

Yeah I love how you can have raunchy whores in a movie (in general, haven't seen this one) and as long as they do karate it's all good and empowering and shit.

Isn't this why Joss Whedon is so popular?

[Paelos]

Are you implying that Joss Whedon is a raunchy whore?

[Teleku]

Just saw this in at IMAX.  Going to have to say fuck you to all the critics.  The film was actually pretty good.  Not perfect, and I agree with most in this thread that a better editing job could have made it a great film, but still a good film.  The music, visuals, and fight scenes were pretty top notch all the way though, and I dug the story.  There really is a lot of extra meaning behind what happened and its fun to try and interpret it.  The movie also had some strong emotional impact.  It was a good roller coaster style movie.

I can see how some people might be turned off by the film and not enjoy it, and thats fine.  But I seriously don't get the huge amount of criticism I've seen.

[Merusk]

Critics know what you should like better than you do.  You're a bad person for thinking otherwise.

[Surlyboi]

I'd empower the shit outta that.

[01101010]

Just saw this in at IMAX.  Going to have to say fuck you to all the critics.  The film was actually pretty good.  Not perfect, and I agree with most in this thread that a better editing job could have made it a great film, but still a good film.  The music, visuals, and fight scenes were pretty top notch all the way though, and I dug the story.  There really is a lot of extra meaning behind what happened and its fun to try and interpret it.  The movie also had some strong emotional impact.  It was a good roller coaster style movie.

I can see how some people might be turned off by the film and not enjoy it, and thats fine.  But I seriously don't get the huge amount of criticism I've seen.

I hardly ever let critics dictate whether or not I jump off the fence for a movie. They are not me and in fact, that a critic slams a movie makes me want to see it even more. Sadly, masses do follow critics and make movies into more than they actually are. Case in point, MSNBC (yeah, I know... ) actually is picking Arthur as a best bet.

[WindupAtheist]

I hardly ever let critics dictate whether or not I jump off the fence for a movie. They are not me and in fact, that a critic slams a movie makes me want to see it even more. Sadly, masses do follow critics and make movies into more than they actually are.

As coincidence would have it, the second Transformers and the second Chipmunks movie both scored the exact same 20% on Rotten Tomatoes that Sucker Punch did. Chipmunks did two hundred million bucks domestic, four hundred worldwide. Transformers doubled both of those figures. Critics mean jack shit in terms of what a movie does financially. The studios still neglect to screen a movie for critics when they know it's a real shitbag, but that's probably more out of reflex and wishful thinking than anything else at this point. Word of mouth circulates too quickly these days.

Critics know what you should like better than you do.  You're a bad person for thinking otherwise.

Fine, fine, critics don't mean shit. Box office doesn't mean shit. User ratings certainly don't mean shit. Everyone is a special snowflake and there are no meaningful criteria for slagging on anything. I don't really care. I haven't seen this movie, can't imagine that I ever will, and as much as I love vulturing over flops you'll never catch me trying to speak to the genuine merits of something I haven't actually seen.

I just LURRRRRVE it when one of these fanboy-driven pictures takes it in the ass. I love it in a ridiculous, petty way. I mean I enjoy watching the box office as a spectator sport anyway, and whenever the whole internet/fanboy culture gets kicked in the nuts and reminded that nobody cares what it thinks, that's just a sweet bonus. "Ninja pirates fighting robot dinosaurs, what else could a movie need?!" I dunno, maybe some fucking Gungans. Bahahahaha.

[LK]

Considering the image that the marketing and discussion of this film has generated, I'm just stoked there was something there that didn't insult my intelligence. I should actually have guessed I might find something enjoyable from an original, one-shot, isolated I.P., non-exploitable story. However most films pander to stupid and the commercial, as WUA implied.

It's like how I always enjoy the one-shot comics from Marvel and DC (Old Man Logan, Elseworlds, etc.) with a definite beginning and end because the writers are able to actually write good non-franchise forwarding stories outside the main continuity. Familiar characters with an actual god damn character arc.

(One exception is Punisher: MAX, but that's because Frank Castle is just that damn interesting a character / story-telling device for an author to use when doing a story about mortality, law, justice, etc. without the rest of the Marvel U. It didn't hurt that Garth Ennis is damn good at what he does.)

[Paelos]

"Ninja pirates fighting robot dinosaurs, what else could a movie need?!" I dunno, maybe some fucking Gungans. Bahahahaha.

Good times. 

[Jeff Kelly]

I just came back from a screening of this movie. I now have the urge to shower for the next week and scrub myself with steel wool.

The whole film was like a long creepy leering look at underage flesh, just like the stepdad had for his two daughters. If somewhere in the movie you have to actually mention the age of your hero just to make sure that nobody get's the impression she might be a preteen that gets molested and abused on screen (and figuratively undressed by your peeping tom camera) then you have crossed several lines already and you know it.

Without the underage porn and 'creepy uncle that watches you undress' vibe this would just have been a bad movie. So it's just so much more. The vacant stare and utter robot-like 'acting' of half of the female cast didn't help. The actress playing baby doll had a stare as empty and devoid of any emotions as if she were a real victim of molestation and abuse.

The whole experience was seriously creepy and off-putting. I think I need a whole helping of cute kittens to get that out of my system.

[LK]

The actress playing baby doll had a stare as empty and devoid of any emotions as if she were a real victim of molestation and abuse.

[Jeff Kelly]

Yeah I know that I probably went off the rails a little there. The whole film felt really creepy to me though. And that look was NOT intentional.

[LK]

Red Letter Media did a review of Sucker Punch. I agree with some of their criticisms. As much as I took out of the film (or at least tried to take out of it), I was pretty bored in certain parts and was waiting for the end of the film while watching it. I also saw how the action sequences did very, very little to advance the story.

So I kinda get the big picture but the execution is far from perfect.

[Samwise]

Red Letter Media did a review of Sucker Punch. I agree with some of their criticisms.

I think that was easily the most times I have heard the word "fuckhole" in the span of a minute.

[WindupAtheist]

I wanted a Plinkett review, not two nerds sitting there talking.

[Slyfeind]

I just saw it and thought it was amazing. I think as guys, it's impossible for us to imagine how it can be empowering, but every chick I've talked to about it says it was, so I just take their word for it.

And one more thing.

Heh.

Seriously though, I can understand why people wouldn't like it, because it was advertised as one thing but delivered something else. Tron Legacy had the same thing going for it. I liked that too. (And with that in mind, I think I get just as much schadenfreude from Tron-haters as I do Sucker-Punch-haters now.  )

[DraconianOne]

I just saw it and thought it was amazing. .... every chick I've talked to ....

I can see the issues here.

[Slyfeind]

I just saw it and thought it was amazing. .... every chick I've talked to ....

I can see the issues here.

Your comment makes no sense.

[Abagadro]

I do believe he is insinuating that you don't actually have many women to talk to. 

[Slyfeind]

Or sad that he doesn't have any women to talk to.