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schild
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Is there a market for the non-miniature components of these boardgames? I'd pledge for some of the CMON boardgames if I could sell off the card components for even a modest amount.
i have no idea but i doubt it do you just paint the minis?
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jgsugden
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Is there a market for the non-miniature components of these boardgames? I'd pledge for some of the CMON boardgames if I could sell off the card components for even a modest amount.
A slow moving and cheap market. If you spent $150 on the Rising Sun Kickstarter to get the game and expansion, you could likely sell the rules, cardboard pieces, etc... for ~$20 - eventually. I am making 'Travel' versions of a few of my games for taking on trips. I can see someone that owns the game wanting the thin parts for a second copy of the game they can use without the minis.
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BobtheSomething
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Is there a market for the non-miniature components of these boardgames? I'd pledge for some of the CMON boardgames if I could sell off the card components for even a modest amount.
A slow moving and cheap market. If you spent $150 on the Rising Sun Kickstarter to get the game and expansion, you could likely sell the rules, cardboard pieces, etc... for ~$20 - eventually. I am making 'Travel' versions of a few of my games for taking on trips. I can see someone that owns the game wanting the thin parts for a second copy of the game they can use without the minis. I would actually be interested in selling off the Rising Sun rules, board and cards. I'd sell it for less than $20 even, as long as shipping is covered.
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BobtheSomething
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Is there a market for the non-miniature components of these boardgames? I'd pledge for some of the CMON boardgames if I could sell off the card components for even a modest amount.
i have no idea but i doubt it do you just paint the minis? I certainly think about painting the minis... But, generally I will use the minis for other games, like Frostgrave or something like that. We prefer to play co op boardgames like Shadows of Brimstone, and we'll use other games' miniatures because they are usually superior to the ones that came in the box. I have no use for the rule sets for competitive games or complicated games.
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Teleku
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That’s an interesting demographic for these games. I know multiple people who kickstart these miniature heavy games just to gain things for their DnD/PnP/Whatever games. When I was actually playing 5E with a group of people in Moscow, I got Swords and Sorcery, and to be honest, the Conan Board game (you got a shit ton of miniatures for the price) for similar reasons. I unfortunately haven’t touched pen and paper rpg’s since the moscow group broke up, so I kind of need to get people into the games. But you are not alone in the miniature only kickstarter field. I’m hoping if I can find a reliable Thai painter to paint a lot of my shit for a reasonable price, so it wont be all for naught.
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schild
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Fun Again is going out of business. Their server already crashed. Huge sale.
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jgsugden
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Fun Again is going out of business. Their server already crashed. Huge sale.
Yeah - I casually tried to pick up 2 games... I finally got the first in my cart after 45 minutes. The second wasn't available, and by the time I figured that out, the first game was gone.
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Rendakor
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I spent a few hours fighting it, trying to get Scythe, but was never able to make it to checkout; once it asked for my shipping choice it shit the bed after that.
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Goldenmean
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That's disappointing. They were my go to online retailer. Anyone have suggestions for a replacement that is not 1) Coolstuffinc, which uses terrible non-biodegradable packing materials or 2) Miniature's Market, which tends to run out of stock super quickly and has cluttered new release lists?
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Teleku
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Was able to snag one of the Scythe expansions and some others.
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Soln
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I use CSI. There are reliable and stupid cheap.
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Teleku
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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schild
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what
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schild
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that is stupid fucking cheap
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Teleku
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I’ll probably just let him do a trial run on my prologue survivors and white lion to see how he actually does.
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« Last Edit: March 01, 2018, 09:58:42 PM by Teleku »
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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Goldenmean
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I use CSI. There are reliable and stupid cheap.
Yeah, I used to, but got sick of overflowing my trash can with styrofoam peanuts every week </first world problems>
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Bunk
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Fun Again is going out of business. Their server already crashed. Huge sale.
AARG. 20 miutes hunting through the dreggs of what is left - to reach the checkout and find out they don't ship out of the US. Oh well.
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Fun Again is going out of business. Their server already crashed. Huge sale.
This sucks. They were always a little expensive for an online company, but they often had things that were rare or had things earlier than other companies.
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Goldenmean
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This sucks. They were always a little expensive for an online company, but they often had things that were rare or had things earlier than other companies.
Yeah, I don't know any other store that was as good about getting games from Essen.
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Sky
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that is stupid fucking cheap
Red flags all over, but I don't know the market here, let alone over there. Looks like shit painting, I'd prime black and hit them with a zenithal white before letting someone just slap some base coats and wash on them. Ask on the night market, might be able to find someone on there or at least do some info gathering. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1287754827958340/
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Teleku
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I'm going to come by the shop first to look at his stuff, and if it does look good, test him on the starting survivors first to see if he fucks them up.
Why do you say it looks like shit painting? Most of the shots look pretty pro level to me. Mind you, I'm well aware its hard to judge his work from photos and it could be shit in reality. But so far seems like a good prospect.
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« Last Edit: March 03, 2018, 03:11:22 AM by Teleku »
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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lamaros
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I played some 18CZ today, to continue my 18xx trend. I don't think I can go back to other boardgames*
* Unless constrained by time, a need to drink alcohol, or play with family.
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Sky
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Why do you say it looks like shit painting? Most of the shots look pretty pro level to me. Mind you, I'm well aware its hard to judge his work from photos and it could be shit in reality. But so far seems like a good prospect.
There is some competent low intermediate or talented beginner level freehand work with the script. Those are what an actual professional would call 'low tabletop' (thus the low price, I'd imagine). Very basic color blocking, minimal or no shading or highlights. It does look like clean paintwork, so if you just want painted minis at a low price, and can trust the guy not to disappear with your stuff, it's probably worth a shot. Mine look a bajillion times better, but I've finished a grand total of one, so..... "Pro-painted" is a red-flag term amongst professional painters, a running joke on ebay listings. They seldom are professionally painted. edited to add: I'm wicked snobby about mini painting and don't think I've very good at it, because I am friends with folks like Scott Hockley (who literally wrote the guides on painting Kingdom Death minis) and Jessica Rich (who has won multiple international competitions with Kingdom Death models). So there's my bias :D
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schild
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ok
not to be a fucking total dick
but being arrogant about mini-painting is a really fucking strange look
it's a subgenre of a subgenre of a subgenre of nerddom
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Teleku
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Note, the guy never described himself as a pro-painter, I did. Because the work he presented looked at that level. As I said, I'll see how his stuff looks when I come by in person, but the phrasing is mine, not his.
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Looks fine to me, and I guess you get what you pay for.
He's not paying enough to get actual professional painting done by people who win awards and shit - just wants competently-painted minis, without having to dump so much money or (more valuable at this point) time into doing it himself.
They may not be perfect god-tier paint jobs...but they look good enough.
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Bought and played Sagrada a few times. It looks stunning, and I enjoy the game. It feels to me in the same vein as the Splendor or Castles of Burgundy type games where you are doing something for your little area and whatever the other guys/gals are doing really doesn't matter all that much. So it won't be fun for some folks, but it's got a relaxing feel that I dig. Definitely a multiplayer solitaire game. Ends up looking nice, though. Also, good for small people, although can be a little frustrating with very young players. Probably 8-9 is where you can start this one, I think.
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Bunk
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Really? I found that when we played there was still a fair amount of paying attention to your opponent's boards. Trying to figure out what your opponent wants to take can make a huge difference on the order of your drafts. Mind you, we are a little over the top when it comes to playing games competitively.
Its a good, quick game, that still requires some thought to play well.
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ghost
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Yeah, you could be dickish in the draft, but sometimes that will hurt you more than your opponent. It may come up 2-3 times per game that you can take something they want. Certainly there's no direct interaction though.
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In my experience the single most important thing in winning at Sagrada is working out which colour your opponent has as a private goal and then drafting any 5s and 6s in their colour.
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2017 BoardGameGeek Winners & Runners Up
Board Game of the Year Winner - Gloomhaven Runner Up - Azul Runner Up - The 7th Continent
2-Player Game Winner - Codenames Duet Runner Up - Caverna: Cave vs Cave Runner Up - The Fox in the Forest
Artwork & Presentation Winner - Photosynthesis Runner Up - Azul Runner Up - Sagrada
Card Game Winner - Century: Spice Road Runner Up - Clank! In! Space! Runner Up - Ethnos
Cooperative Game Winner - Gloomhaven Runner Up - The 7th Continent Runner Up - Pandemic Legacy: Season 2
Expansion Winner - Scythe: The Wind Gambit Runner Up - Terraforming Mars: Hellas & Elysium Runner Up - Terraforming Mars: Venus Next
Family Game Winner - Azul Runner Up - Sagrada Runner Up - Century: Spice Road
Innovative Winner - Gloomhaven Runner Up - The 7th Continent Runner Up - Magic Maze
Party Game Winner - Werewords Runner Up - Spyfall 2 Runner Up - Tortuga 1667
Print & Play Winner - My Little Scythe Runner Up - A4 Quest Runner Up - Doctor Who: Solitaire Story Game (Second edition)
Solo Game Winner - Gloomhaven Runner Up - The 7th Continent Runner Up - Nemo's War (second edition)
Strategy Game Winner - Gloomhaven Runner Up - Clans of Caledonia Runner Up - Azul
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Wargame Winner - 878: Vikings – Invasions of England Runner Up - Time of Crisis Runner Up - Pendragon: The Fall of Roman Britain
Best Podcast Winner - Rahdo Talks Through Runner Up - Ludology Runner Up - Heavy Cardboard
Best Board Game App Winner - Through the Ages Runner Up - Onirim Runner Up - Race for the Galaxy I guess I should actually play Gloomhaven at some point.
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No surprise that Gloomhaven was going to sweep it. I had hoped that Spirit Island would place in cooperative at least. I had forgotten the hype train for 7th Continent was that strong.
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schild
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Thematic game should've gone to cave evil warcults
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Goldenmean
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Thematic game should've gone to cave evil warcults
Might have helped if it had actually released in 2017... or if more than a couple dozen people had rated it... or if it had been a completely different game.
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schild
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boardgame years bleed together
i just find anything fantasy or tangentially fantasy to be a complete failure of theme as it's the easiest thing imaginable
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