Captain America: The Winter Soldier

[Samwise]

Just saw this.  It was entertaining.  I think I offended the comic nerds I was seeing it with when I said "wait, is that what happened in the comic too?  Wow, that's really dumb."

[Velorath]

Very little of what happened in the comic book happened in the movie.

[Abagadro]

Just came back. Liked it quite a bit.  My favorite easter egg is on a certain tombstone at the end so look at it closely as it is a very brief shot.

[Samwise]

Yeah, that tombstone was my favorite joke in the movie too.   

[Raguel]

I missed the joke :/

I liked the movie. I wasn't quite what I'd hope for, but overall I thought it was a good movie.

[Ironwood]

Stop doing that.

[Ghambit]

The movie is definitely loaded with subtlety, which for me was my only complaint.  By the time something started to register in my mind, the scene was over and something else was taking my attention.  It's probably the most lore-dependent (and divisive) of all the Marvel movies.

If you dont get the subtlety, the movie turns into a simple action-flick.  Albeit a very very good one.  Actually, it's probably the most actiony of all the Marvel films.  Even the music was suitably A-Teamish.

[eldaec]

If by 'loaded with subtlety' you mean 'loaded with more nerd culture references than a whole season of the big bang theory' then I agree. But I wouldn't call it subtle.

Compared to the other marvel films this was aimed more squarely at the teenage nerd and overgrown manchild demographics. I liked it for that, but it was also why the GF found it tiresome and formulaic.

[Ghambit]

Yah, that's kinda what I mean by subtle.  Though reason I said subtle is because like I said, the references were quick.  They didnt beat you over the head with it; was more like machine-gun fire all over the movie.  Ditto the formulaic-ness if you didnt pick it up though.

Movie was made to bolster MAoS and vice versa quite obviously.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Movie was made to bolster MAoS and vice versa quite obviously.

Eh......

[Merusk]

[/s]=1396719525].  Ditto the formulaic-ness if you didnt pick it up didn't read comics in the 90s

Don't use the word subtle when this is what you meant and admitted as such. 

[Ghambit]

Movie was made to bolster MAoS and vice versa quite obviously.

Eh......

Eh what?  You think Marvel et. al. didnt factor that into their biz plan?  Dont be daft.

[Lakov_Sanite]

If you think the makers of the movie give two shits about the series you are woefully mistaken about how these things work, the movie is looking to make more money then the series ever will.  The show of course was made to bolster the movies and keep them fresh in peoples minds, unfortunately it's been doing a terrible job of it.

That said I have no doubt the movie will help bolster the show and give them the opportunity to start fresh and it will be interesting to see where season two goes.

[Khaldun]

My wife doesn't know any of the references but she still liked it a lot. It's a pretty well-paced action film with some good sequences and emotional hooks.

I also think it more or less walks up to Man of Steel and kicks it in the junk in terms of showing you how to make a character who is basically a boy scout at heart still be dramatically interesting without having to make him a grimdark 'it's not a battle if you don't kill a whole city' character. The best scene in that regard is


The biggest Easter Egg imho was

[RhyssaFireheart]

Saw it last night with the husband.  He basically went along because he knew I wanted to see it (and it was his turn to let me pick) and he enjoyed it without knowing anything about the character/lore other than seeing Avengers.  Neither of us saw the first movie, either.

I agree that they did a good job of making Rogers a boy scout without having him be pretentious and over-bearing about it.  He did good things because that was what he did, full stop.  

I thought the action scenes and fights were all pretty damn good, actually.  Like, nice choreography and plausibility for amped up characters beating each other up, and Falcon's flight wings didn't come off as outlandish, either.

Heh, forgot to mention that I enjoyed the movie a lot and the two credits scenes were good.

[Ironwood]

First film was good.  You should take a look.

[Velorath]

One thing I'll add is that the two Cap movies seem more cohesive than most of the other Marvel movies in the way the second movie brings back a lot of stuff from the first, and also does a lot to set up the next movie (they managed to successfully set up the Winter Soldier and introduce Falcon, Agent 13, and Crossbones). The Iron Man movies don't really have much of a narrative arc that goes across the three of them, and while the end of Thor 2 looks to set up Thor 3, the whole plot with Malekith didn't really have much to do with any sort of greater story arc between the movies.

[MediumHigh]

This knocks it out the park and than some. I mostly blame this movie and Caps universe in general being well within Hollywoods ballpark and the writing, action, and the plot shows.

[Tannhauser]

Really enjoyed this BUT I think I still like Cap 1 better.  WW2 is a fascination of mine.  Having said that, I thought the action scenes were done very well with a good storyline.  When I got into comics Cap and Falcons were a team so it was cool to see them here.  Loved Falc's old red and white costume!  I know it's Caps film, but I wish we had JUST a bit more on Black Widow.  Evans was good, hell everyone was good, but....Redford phoned it in.  Yeah I said it.


Also a big THANK YOU to the MCU for using practical effects whenever possible.  Big thanks as well for the look of Winter Soldier, nice costume along with Cap's. It felt like Cap's version of 'Dark Knight Rises' with the (mostly) gritty street combat. 

The time flew by and I was very entertained.  Second extra scene was a waste of time though.  Marvel is still kicking ass.  If GotG bombs it will be its own fault.

[HaemishM]

Saw it. Loved it. Thought it was actually a better Marvel movie than Avengers, in that the plot was tighter and made more sense. Falcon is just fucking awesome. Stay through all the credits, all the way to the end even though the final post-credits thing isn't as important as the first.

[Ghambit]

How does Falcon's suit actually work?  Some kind of mind-machine interface that articulates his wings and engines?

[Abagadro]

A wizard did it.

[MahrinSkel]

How does Falcon's suit actually work?  Some kind of mind-machine interface that articulates his wings and engines?

In a world that includes Iron Man and Thor, you boggle on a winged jetpack?

--Dave

[HaemishM]

^ That. ^

Seriously, how do repulsors work, or giant fucking turbines that drive the Helicarriers? Or how does Cap know exactly where his shield will bounce when he throws it?

Falcon's suit works by FUCK YOU, that's how. It's powered by pure goddamn awesome.

[jgsugden]

The name dropping was very cool.  The second I get the BR for this movie, I'm going to pop it open to those comnputer screens showing all the names and see how many 'potentials' are out there that we know from the comics.  Was Luke Cage, Matt Murdock, etc... on it?  What about some of the villains? 

[tazelbain]

Loved everything about this movie including Redford. Thought he did swarmy politician quite well.

[HaemishM]

My only disappointment about this movie was that

[jgsugden]

My only disappointment about this movie was that

[Khaldun]

Actually, I was kind of glad they didn't do that,
Screen caps of the targeting so far show:

[RhyssaFireheart]

My only disappointment about this movie was that

Wouldn't that have been too cliched though?  He shouldn't have been the head of HYDRA and it does give something for Fury to do when he's off tramping around Europe.  And for now, since the upcoming movies don't seem like they'll address it, looking for HYDRA and dealing with the Winter Soldier are the possibly setups for CA3 if/when that is ever made.

And Redford did a perfect smarmy politician.  

Oh, someone elsewhere pointed out that Shandling's senator character was also the one trying to get a hold of the Ironman armor, so that was a nice little tie between the movies.

[Khaldun]

As an aside, the years have NOT been kind to Shandling.

[shiznitz]

It is not the years that have done that to his face.

[Khaldun]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

[jgsugden]

[Ironwood]

This movie was good.