Chris Roberts Back in your wallet - STAR CITIZEN

[jakonovski]

The towels are and will probably be the best part of SC.

[schild]

I almost bought the towels just so I could have a piece of this virtual stillbirth.

[tmp]

Towels.

I... guess they're in The Guide?

This seems like a missed opportunity. Only one towel, and not a separate version for each virtual ship type you own?

[Signe]

I would buy that towel if it were signed by Douglas Adams.  And had a puppy wrapped up inside it. 



Speaking of puppies.... Imgur is hiring mobile engineers.  They're in San Fransisco.  It looks like a nice place to work. 

[Typhon]

I almost bought the towels just so I could have a piece of this virtual stillbirth.

This is never coming to an end.  No don't get me wrong, a playable, fun game will never be released.  But so what?  As long as they have a merchandise shop and virtual ships making so much cash why would they need to launch?

[Paelos]

I almost bought the towels just so I could have a piece of this virtual stillbirth.

This is never coming to an end.  No don't get me wrong, a playable, fun game will never be released.  But so what?  As long as they have a merchandise shop and virtual ships making so much cash why would they need to launch?

They can't stall forever. Lawyers will get involved eventually if there's a several million dollar kitty at stake.

[Falconeer]

Why do you all think it won't ever get released? Launching a shitty game isn't hard these days. It will never meet the expectations, and the pitchfork phase will be hilarious to watch from the stands, but how could it not get released? Even when it'll be obvious it sucks there will always be some worshipers with a heavy wallet, so why in the world would they not try and launch it anyway at some point?

[Paelos]

Releasing a turd with 15% of the features doesn't count as a release. That's taking a dump on your fans.

They'll try of course, but with the amount of overhead he's piling up it's making the Curt Schilling payroll look reasonable.

[Hoax]

Why do you all think it won't ever get released? Launching a shitty game isn't hard these days. It will never meet the expectations, and the pitchfork phase will be hilarious to watch from the stands, but how could it not get released? Even when it'll be obvious it sucks there will always be some worshipers with a heavy wallet, so why in the world would they not try and launch it anyway at some point?

Right now the incentive is for them to delay and promise. As long as they can do that they can make money. As long as they are making money releasing something that will make people freak out and stop giving them money is a bad business decision.

[Samprimary]

This game will be released. It will be decent but weird. People who got in for $30 will be pretty happy. People who put in thousands of dollars will be demented bizarro shits over every aspect of how space sim jesus didn't turn out how they impossibly expected but will soon separate into two camps of embittered burnouts and stockholm syndrome hangers-on with incredible powers of cognitive dissonance to excuse their investments.

Err, I mean, "investments."

[Samprimary]

although and i hate to fucking admit it people who are seeing the light and cashing out on this shitshow are getting like 300% of their money back on the grey market

[Paelos]

although and i hate to fucking admit it people who are seeing the light and cashing out on this shitshow are getting like 300% of their money back on the grey market

There's always a good secondary market for a ponzi scheme on the way up.

[UnSub]

although and i hate to fucking admit it people who are seeing the light and cashing out on this shitshow are getting like 300% of their money back on the grey market

As the saying goes: it's not time in the market that makes you money, it's timing the market. 

Especially timing those sales to the day before SC makes clear how easy / hard it is to get those ships in game.

[apocrypha]

http://www.incgamers.com/2014/08/play-star-citizen-and-arena-commander-free-until-5-septemer

Promo code that supposedly lets you play for free until 5th Sept. Haven't tested it myself, not got time this week to take advantage of it.

[schild]

I get 300MB down, would I be able to download the client by September 5th?

It's what, 9TB? 8.5TB of which is an uncompressed audio file of Chris Roberts masturbating into a 1/8th scale ISS figurine?

[Lucas]

Today, CIG should release Arena Commander v. 0.9:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14144-Arena-Commander-V09-Status-Update

It will contain (full patch notes later today):

- Co-op Vanduul Swarm (co-op play against AI)
- Multiplayer racing mode (in-fiction "Murray Cup". This should be very cool)
- Private game modes (so play only with your friends/group)
- Updated visuals on all Hangars, with the inclusion of the all new "Asteroid" hangar
- web based leaderboards based on all game modes

Regarding the specific flying mechanics, this patch is important because it will introduce 6 DoF flying, so, among other things, you'll be able to strafe without resorting to the so called "decoupled" mode (but you will still have the possibility of switching between various modes: coupled/decoupled/comstab on&off/G-force control on&off). They're also increasing the relative speed of ships, adding new sound effects and visual feedback, again in relation to the speed of your sheep, err, ship.

While I think they'll always keep another stance on "flying" compared to E:D (just like it happened twenty years ago), we should see some actual steps toward the E:D "feel", although Yaw will be definitely alot more prominent in SC as a whole (and I personally prefer it this way as long as they limit "turreting", something that hopefully will be less noticeable after this patch).

No full key/joystick customization yet, although this patch will introduce a lot of profiles for the most common peripherals (previously, they only had mouse/keyboard, Rhino, Thrustmaster Warthog, console controller).

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Other stuff coming today:

- M50 (the main in-fiction racing ship) brochure and commercial
- Maybe a new letter for the chairman for the $53 million funding reached
- Cake for everyone (everyone who pay them some more, that is :D)

[Lucas]

Aaand, Arena Commander v. 0.9 has just been released. Here are the full details (there is also a link to the full patch notes):

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14143-Arena-Commander-V09-Released

Link also includes the in-engine trailer for the Origin M50 racing ship.

[Mrbloodworth]

Roberts Space Industries Constellation Commercial

Co op Vandull swarm with TrackIR in Arena commander

Star Citizen - Insane Race - m50

[schild]

$50,000,000+ and the first actual gameplay I've seen is shitty WipeOut.

 

[KallDrexx]

There's a lot ot hate and laugh about with Star Citizen, but lack of gameplay videos is not it.

There's tons of videos on youtube both by players and devs showing space combat.

[schild]

I said that "I've seen," I figured it was pretty clear I wouldn't be out hunting for it. Is there any footage of actual dogfights between multiple players from anyone not a developer?

[Maven]

You know that throwing that qualifier to explain your statement doesn't make your original statement very strong or noteworthy, right?

First I was going to mock you about being unable to Google it for yourself and requesting someone else to do it -- but then I did it anyway, god damn you schild and your social engineering.

Anyway, this looks like what you're looking for, but there does seem to be a preponderance of Developer-Only videos.

[schild]

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

That is single-player.

[Mrbloodworth]

Is there any footage of actual dogfights between multiple players from anyone not a developer?

Yes, has been since it was added.

Code:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Star+citizen+PvP

Twitch is also littered with them, and one of the videos above, is Co-op VS swam. I Just found the combo of HOTAS and TrackIR really fun to watch.

[Maven]

Well, with all due respect, look it up yourself then. I don't have the time for that research, and I didn't see why anyone should do it for you. Other people are busy with their lives, too.

[Mrbloodworth]

$50,000,000+ and the first actual gameplay I've seen is shitty WipeOut.

 

You say this as if all the money to date was spent on it.

[Samwise]

I found this.  Looks like pretty standard arena deathmatch type stuff -- no multi-player ships, nothing persistent or simmy.

[Mrbloodworth]

Modes of play:

- Free flight
- Single player Vanduul swarm
- Co-op Vanduul swarm
- Death match
- Capture the core ( Capture the flag, Is PvP )
- Murry cup

[Lucas]

Update on the Retaliator (finishing touches on its "greybox" phase): it's the first Heavy Bomber spaceship that was announced during the KS; its military variant will be featured in the single-player campaign. Details are quite amazing (be sure to watch it in hi-res) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc-7Luzbxxg

[Malakili]

All I got from that video is that door opening animations don't work yet.

[Xuri]

All I got from that video is "This video is private."

[Lucas]

All I got from that video is "This video is private."

Try the following link; looks like they changed the background music (from Clint Mansell's piece to a in-house one).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw18M19BMSI&channel=RobertsSpaceInd

[tmp]

Ugh it's like watching the "I don't care 5k polys is pushing the limits, I need at least 20k on my rivets alone" people all over again.

[Samwise]

None of the gameplay elements that they've implemented so far use any of those ship interiors, do they?  If they had a video showing combat in that environment and it looked fun, all the shiny polys would be a nice bit of icing on the cake.  As it is I don't understand what I'm supposed to be excited about.  Why don't I feel anything?

[tmp]

If I remember right they showed a 'gameplay' video a while back which featured multi-crew ship, and it had people move around inside of the ship to the control stations and such while enemies were flying outside, shooting etc. No clue if anything of that is actually implemented though, or when it might be.

In other news, apparently they've figured out a business even better than selling virtual spaceships is selling virtual virtual spaceships