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Yegolev
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The only good thing I can say about that film is that the cast and crew seemed to have fun making it.
Also, I had fun watching it. So there's that. Same with TRON, it had lots of pretty lights. |
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Ratman_tf
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Oh god, the hyperbole....
Eh. I've said my piece in the Star Trek thread. |
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Ironwood
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Wife and I watched this last night.
She fell asleep while I was appalled.
Without substance, charm or point.
An Awful Movie.
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LK
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I guess the point was a commentary on responsibility or I.P. exploitation, depending on your perspective.
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Ironwood
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Oh, Excellent, I'll rewatch it then, since an IP argument was JUST what I wanted to see in a TRON sequel...  |
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Arthur_Parker
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It was very, very pretty but the plot was terrible, I thought it started to get interesting about 60 seconds before it ended. Pity.
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Prospero
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I also watched this last night. I can't figure out why this wasn't strangled in the cradle. The plot was insipid and the editing was on par with a 12 year old playing with iMovie. I cannot believe this sack of shit made enough money to warrant a third movie.
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Furiously
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Olivia Wilde in skin tight clothes?
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Ironwood
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Except she wasn't and they weren't and her hairdo was fucking stupid and, frankly, she looked like a tall froggie in the film.
Fuck me, if you wanted eye Candy, the Siren was a much better.
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Yegolev
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2/10 WOULD NOT INGEST
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I'd argue that it ever got interesting past the light bikes.
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question.
They called it The Prayer, its answer was law
Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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Ironwood
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What actually happened beyond the light bikes ? A boat ride is pretty much it.  |
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Lakov_Sanite
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And then Tron2 came and shat on my dog.
Really, it wasn't the greatest movie ever but it's a sequal to tron.....tron. I eagerly await your scathing criticisms of Krull 2.
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Ironwood
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Well, I can say straight away that it won't have Lysette Anthony scantily clad and is, therefore, epic fail before it starts.
You know what Tron 2 could have done with ?
Tron.
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Ratman_tf
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Well, I can say straight away that it won't have Lysette Anthony scantily clad and is, therefore, epic fail before it starts.
You know what Tron 2 could have done with ?
Tron.
I know. They should have called it something like Tron Legacy. |
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Ironwood
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...and it would still have been better with some Tron.
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HaemishM
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Kid's movie, you grumpy Scottish bastard. |
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Ironwood
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No, it fucking wasn't.
Don't talk utter shite. You think the kids are following the Zen crap that Flynn was spouting ? You think they remotely understood what the fuck his son was doing with the company and what was fucking stupid about it ? You think they gave two tugs of a dead dogs cock about some race of 'super AI's' that could heal on the outside world or whatever fucking shite got spouted ?
Kids movie my fucking arsehole.
Also, if that's your argument, you think kids wouldn't want more Tron ? WHERE THE FUCK WAS TRON ? WHAT WAS WITH RENAMING HIM AND NEVER SHOWING A FACE AND THEN HAVING AN OFFCAMERA REDEMPTION WHERE HE BASICALLY DOES A SWANDIVE INTO THE SEA ?
It was all cock.
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DraconianOne
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There was an incarnation of the script by Richard Jeffries which featured Tron a lot more. His introduction: Seriously upgraded, over-clocked, armed for trouble. The friendly hero we once knew has been re-programmed into a ruthless cyber-ninja. The script was pretty shit all told some elements carried over into the released film. Didn't feature the bland, insipid son-of-Flynn boy wonder though so that's a major plus. |
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Riggswolfe
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Also, if that's your argument, you think kids wouldn't want more Tron ? WHERE THE FUCK WAS TRON ? WHAT WAS WITH RENAMING HIM AND NEVER SHOWING A FACE AND THEN HAVING AN OFFCAMERA REDEMPTION WHERE HE BASICALLY DOES A SWANDIVE INTO THE SEA ?
Well never showing his face and having a new name was for the "Tron's still alive?" moment. It wasn't hard to guess who "Renzler" was but that was the point. As for his offcamera redemption I think you must have fallen asleep as well. His redemption was very much on-screen and made perfect sense in the context of when it happened. |
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Ironwood
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Identity of Rinzler obvious from the minute they showed the Tron Flashback.
Redemption occurred when he heard the magic voices in his head and then crashed his wee plane into Enemy wee plane before getting his rod nicked and falling into the sea.
Give it up. This isn't just me being me : It was a seriously bad film and an utterly pointless exercise.
I'd be interested in the perfect sense in context that you saw.
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Lakov_Sanite
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Nobody under 30 even knows who Tron was.
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Ratman_tf
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Give it up. This isn't just me being me : It was a seriously bad film and an utterly pointless exercise.
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HaemishM
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I thought it was about as good as the first movie. So not great, a little silly, doesn't make a whole fuckload of sense if you're over 12 and it was pretty. I wasn't expecting much.
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Merusk
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Nobody under 30 even knows who Tron was.
^^. It's a Disney movie meant to jumpstart another property and sell more toys. That it was Tron was just because they had this 30 year old franchise sitting around that geeks were demanding be made into movies. Geeks who would go see it and geeks who had kids who would also go see it. It was ok for a movie aimed at tweaking the 10-17 year old demographic. Expecting more was just showing your vulnerable side and asking to be kicked in it. I fell victim too. However, after the series of disappointments that's been served up over the last decade in the name of attracting the next gen, I'm no longer as pissed as I once was when it happens. |
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Ratman_tf
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As I understand the story, Tron is one of those slow boilers. It did ok in the theaters, but garnered it's cult following and continues to provide a certain amount of revenue 30 years later. Part of the impetus for ressurecting Tron into a franchise is to "seed" another cult film.
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Sand
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Give it up. This isn't just me being me : It was a seriously bad film and an utterly pointless exercise.
I'd be interested in the perfect sense in context that you saw.
I said this back on page one and was told I simply didnt understand the underlying subtly of its philosophy and awesomeness. I fell like Tron, I have been redeemed! |
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Mattemeo
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I fell like Tron, I have been redeemed!
I wouldn't call finding someone else to grump with after 13 pages 'redemption'. |
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HaemishM
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I also wouldn't take anyone seriously when discussing the "subtlety" of the Tron series of films. Fuck, the first one was about as subtle as a goddamn brickbat to the cranium, and the philosophy was mostly "DAMN THE MONEY MAKING MAN WHO WANTS TO RUN MY COMPUTER GAMES OR SOMETHING."
The first movie made no fucking sense as anything other than a young adult adventure story with computers. It's main draw was the revolutionary for the time visual style which has had a huge impact on science-fiction movies and literature since. The second one made about as much sense, was really unsubtle and silly and was enjoyable if you aren't looking through the lens of 30 years of expectations for Tron Jesus.
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bhodi
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No lie.
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It was all worth it to see a fucking light robe. That was awesome!
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Lakov_Sanite
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It was all worth it to see a fucking light robe. That was awesome!
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Ironwood
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It was all worth it to see a fucking light robe. That was awesome!
Yeah. I'll agree with that. It was the Constantine moment. |
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Slyfeind
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it was about as good as the first movie. Yeah, this. The only reason I can think of for people to hate the sequel is that they thought the first one was some kinda work of art. IT WASN'T. Holy crap, next people are going to complain that Sorcerer's Apprentice didn't take itself seriously enough. |
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Arthur_Parker
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it was about as good as the first movie. Yeah, this. The only reason I can think of for people to hate the sequel is that they thought the first one was some kinda work of art. IT WASN'T. Holy crap, next people are going to complain that Sorcerer's Apprentice didn't take itself seriously enough. I'm not sure why there's such a fuss about saying a movie with a bad plot has a bad plot. Anyway, I think the comments on the 1st movie are true to a large extent. But that ignores the fact that Tron was important because of the arcade and video games it spawned and the influence it had, it was largely irrelevant that I didn't actually see Tron till years later. It still had a better plot though because someone wanted to tell a story, legacy seems to have been made just because there's a market for it. |
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Ironwood
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Yeah, that.
If you look at, errr, about page 3 of this thread, I think, you'll see my views on the orignal Tron - which was a good fluff throwaway film that aged surprisingly well and Elena enjoyed. It was Fun.
This one wasn't fun. It tried too hard with too little and was, well, boring.
Also, No Lacey Underalls.
Boo.
(Thanks Arthur.)
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Pennilenko
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I really enjoyed watching this movie, It was fun, I did however remember to shave the shit out of my neck before i went to go see it...
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