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Topic: The Ultimate Battle - Best Game By Year (Read 57956 times)
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Rendakor
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FFT was certainly the best SRPG ever.
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schild
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I feel like Disgaea 2 is probably my favorite but I'm not going to besmirch FFT or any opinion of it being the best.
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Sky
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Fucking console gamers. It's a little deeper than that. A lot of us vote for the best of a genre / best version of a game. Baldur's Gate isn't the best Baldur's Gate style CRPG. Unreal isn't the best Unreal. Ocarina of Time isn't the best Zelda. It's not shocking FFT won. Planescape: Torment will *probably* win 1999. This tracks with my reading of the list. I was thinking Thief was great, but Thief 2 was the height of the series. Tribes was good, but Tribes 2 was great. Also, Half Life just sucks and always has :D
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Strazos
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I actually voted for both FFT and BG, among other things.
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schild
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Planescape takes down 1999 handily. Second place was an interesting 3-way tie though. Except Everquest. Everyone who voted for EQ is suspect.
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HaemishM
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You really cannot underestimate the impact Everquest had on gaming, positive and negative. Mostly negative but still. And yes, I voted for it, but you've suspected me for years.
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Ard
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He didn't say the game was suspect, only the people who voted for it
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Velorath
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You really cannot underestimate the impact Everquest had on gaming, positive and negative. Mostly negative but still. And yes, I voted for it, but you've suspected me for years. This isn't Time magazine's Person of the Year though, we're actually trying to come up with the best game.
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Rendakor
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What Vel said. If a game influenced my life or my personal gaming tastes, then I might vote for it, but I'm not going to vote for something just because it was popular.
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Sky
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By earlier criteria, WoW would be the mmo to get best game by year.
Though if the actual criteria is best game, no mmo will win because they're all garbage from a gameplay standpoint. Few genres died so hard.
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What do you mean by "earlier criteria"?
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schild
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There's no earlier criteria that says every genre must have a best game. MMOGs stand little chance of winning any of these polls.
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Rendakor
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I'm certainly going to vote for WoW, since I played the shit out of it for years. If any MMO has a chance at winning, it's WoW.
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schild
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WoW came out the same year as Orange Box. So. A shorter but objectively, infinitely superior experience. Hell, lots of us played TF2 way more than WoW.
Sorry, not Orange box. WoW came out the same year as Half-Life 2. Also an objectively better experience. As a reminder, in 2004, f13 gave game of the year to Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines: Colon: Bug Mess.
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« Last Edit: December 03, 2018, 08:02:23 PM by schild »
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Rendakor
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I've never played Half Life (1 or 2) or Vampire, so I'm still voting for WoW. Technically I'm voting for 2008's WotLK-era WoW, but we're rolling all expansions into the base game so 2004 gets it.
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Sky
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It was literally ten posts before I mentioned it. Jesus christ you guys.
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Velorath
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To say that people vote for some games because they're the best in their genre/series is not to say it's the only criteria, or even the most important one.
I'm sure there are dating sims out there that could be considered the best of their genre, but most people here still wouldn't vote for any of them (well some of you guys did play Hatoful Boyfriend a bit I think so maybe that ends up on the 2011 list).
Beyond that, if you were on Discord you could actually see us talking about these games and why we're voting the way we do. It's hard to condense all that down into this thread. Plus you'd be able to vote for stuff yourself.
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HaemishM
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What Vel said. If a game influenced my life or my personal gaming tastes, then I might vote for it, but I'm not going to vote for something just because it was popular.
Everquest had a HYUGE influence on my life and personal gaming tastes, as well as on the industry as a whole. It wasn't about popularity. Its success as a 3d MMOG led to most of the AAA publishers trying to get in and outdo that success. I'd vote for WoW for the same reason.
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Sky
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To say that people vote for some games because they're the best in their genre/series is not to say it's the only criteria, or even the most important one.
I'm sure there are dating sims out there that could be considered the best of their genre, but most people here still wouldn't vote for any of them (well some of you guys did play Hatoful Boyfriend a bit I think so maybe that ends up on the 2011 list).
Beyond that, if you were on Discord you could actually see us talking about these games and why we're voting the way we do. It's hard to condense all that down into this thread. Plus you'd be able to vote for stuff yourself.
I mean, it's more fun being consequence-free and just bitching, MURCA GRATE AGIN BAM
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Sky
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Also the invite expired, I blame the liberal media.
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Rendakor
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I didn't play Hatoful Boyfriend but I might vote for Katawa Shoujo.
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schild
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Yeah. Also, this was 2000, not 2001.
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Sky
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Thief 2? Sacrifice?
Sacrifice still stands as some of the best spell effects of all time, I wish someone would integrate that into a modern game. The top end spells like Volcano and Tornado? Madness. Fun multiplayer, too.
For that list I'd say BG2 or THPS2.
edited to add: looking at a list now, NOLF was also pretty great
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« Last Edit: December 12, 2018, 06:48:41 AM by Sky »
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Strazos
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And if you'd pop into chat, you could ensure some of them make the list! I'd forgotten about NOLF, and while I loved it, if I'm being honest with myself...there's no way it touches A B or C.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Sky
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And if you'd pop into chat, you could ensure some of them make the list! Also the invite expired, I blame the liberal media.
:D
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schild
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Legit the first year where I don't even think anyone gave a shit what won.
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Sky
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Meeeeh
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Bunk
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Pretty much. I'd say the right game one though. Vice City was the sole reason why I bought a PS2.
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Teleku
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GTA3 was genre defining. That alone doesn't put it in the same league as many of the games we've voted on for the last few years, but it was a pretty amazing console experience at the time. A whole lot of companies have basically been iterating its original formula for the last two decades.
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ezrast
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In a sane world, Smash Melee would have singlehandedly forced the entire incestuous genre of shitty fighting games to reinvent itself. Alas we don't live in that world, but it's still probably the only game on the list that has an active community today, eighteen years later.
I didn't vote though so *shrug*
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schild
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Street Fighter, many of the old variants, still have a huge scene. MK3 as well. Killer Instinct's is small, but real. Also, DOA.
Basically, what?
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Velorath
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I think he meant on the list of games on the poll.
Edit: Which I guess still wouldn't make sense because people still play DAOC and there are people running PSO servers out there as well.
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ezrast
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I did (and should have said *most* active - I could be underestimating DAoC's subscriber base, I guess), but Schild's point is that having an active scene in the fighting game community doesn't indicate a game's influence or non-shittiness, which is fair.
Melee was still the most interesting thing to happen to the genre for, like, a decade in either direction.
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Falconeer
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In the scene of what? Brawlers? If that's what you meant, for sure. Fighting games? No.
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Teleku
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I never liked any of the Smash Bro's games. They were playable, but never really derived much when playing them compared to almost any other fighter.
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