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Title: EQ2
Post by: Murgos on August 08, 2005, 07:33:23 AM
So, since I'm at work and have a cubic butt-load of programming tasks to do I thought I would come here and post about some of my impressions with playing EQ2 over the weekend.

First thing I want to talk about is the economy at level 13.  It has vastly improved over the first month of the game.  At level 13 I am entirely kitted out in store bought orange con chain, a nice shield and two orange con weapons (a 2-h slash and a 1h bash) all of which will last me until at least level 20 AND I have over 1 gp in the bank.  All just from doing quests (I've done about 70 so far, with less than 10 hrs played) and only killing mobs in the course of those quests.  My recollection of my first trip through the teens is much more severe, I remember a lot of scrimping and saving to get armor and weapons and spells and just generally not being able to afford anything that I would be able to use for any long period of time.

At first when I looked at prices on the merchant boards I was a bit worried, everything seemed to be inordinately expensive but now that all my equipment through level 20 is pretty much taken care of I can see why the prices are what they are.  Imbued player crafted items for my level are a couple of gp each, considering thier quality and that anything I buy is just bonus and not really required to be competative this seems fairly reasonable to me. YMMV.

The game looks great, I really can't get over how much smoother it looks and plays, on 'balanced' settings the detailed textures on things like walls, the ground and especially armor all really look excellent.  Unfortunately, the character models still pretty much look like ass, there should be a new set of character models (for the Korean launch) coming down the pipeline sometime in the next couple of months though so we will see how that goes.

Combat is, so far, fun and fairly quick.  Not as fast as CoH but comparable to WoW playing as a non-rogue.  My crusader is quite capable of taking on multiple white and yellow con mobs at once and beating them down in short order using a varity of spells and abilities, my scout class (predator) from my initial run was the same way until about level 18 so I'm going to leave the jury out until I see how things go around the level 20 point where mobs get much tougher.

I haven't really tried grouping much except for a couple of minutes with Cheddar's mage but we spent more time tripping over our feet than actually fighting stuff.  My recollection from previously was that grouping was where EQ2 shined anyways so I doubt if that experience has really changed all that much.

I would like to get a guild going simply because there is a whole extra portion of the game that you miss out on by not being guilded and that is status collection.  While guilded almost everything you do results in a personal status award which you can use to buy (special status related) things or get discounts.  There are also whole sequnces of guild only city orientated quests (called city writs) that you can do to raise your guild experience level, which unlocks yet more status items for purchase.  The status items are not really mandatory for the game; better equipment stat-wise drops from mobs out in the game world or can be created by players.  Status purchases are the cool little extras that make the game enjoyable, like special titles and cool little gee-gaws to pretty up your apartment (like swords to hang over the fireplace).

I'd like to see what the rest of you guys think about the newb experience in EQ 2 as it stands now.  Myself, I'm pretty happy with it, it doesn't seem so much like work any more and was really just fun running around and exploring a big playground.

And now I will go back to my regularly scheduled activity of trying to turn some doofus's nested and repeated if else statements into functional, maintainable code.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 08, 2005, 09:32:25 AM
I am going to write a review after one week, but I will sum up my impression thus far as such: "Everything I hate about Everquest seems to have been ripped out and tossed out the window.  The couple things I did like were improved upon and made shiny.  I am a happy noob."  For some reason it reminds me of playing NWN and other offline RPG's, what with the voice overs and such plus the way quests are handled.  So far I am feeling the stirrings of enjoyment; the game is easy enough to track, but complex enough that you have to think before switching spells/equipment.  I like that.

Also a guild sounds like a good idea.  Count me in!

PS. To anyone else that wants to try things out along with us other noobs:  Wal Mart has the game for 20 bucks (comes with a free month).  So far everyone in our diminishing group is adhering to the no spoilers mein.  Feel free to message me on the boards or via my email (stefanslaght <at> gmail.com) if you have any questions or want to join us. 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: UD_Delt on August 08, 2005, 10:26:34 AM
If you all need general advice and don't want to visit spoiler sites I can attempt to help you out without providing too much information. I have a good knowledge of adventuring w/ a 48 Swashbuckler, 22 Conjurer, and 19 Warrior (Guardian). I also have very good understanding of tradeskills w/ 50 Weaponsmith, 50 Alchemist, 49 Jeweler, 49 Woodworker, 42 Provisioner.

A difficult part of EQ2 is the number of quests that require a specific mob or mob type. I found that without spoiler sites I would often outlevel the quest, by generlal grouping or doing other quests, before ever finding that mob. I guess in general that's a good thing and it means there is almost too much content but I personally didn't like having to go back and delete old quests that I just didn't have time to do before leveling.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Sauced on August 08, 2005, 10:38:30 AM
I rolled up a Priest over the weekend, got to 10 and went Cleric, so feel free to add Sauced to the list of peeps to look for when you're out questing and what not.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Furiously on August 08, 2005, 10:42:56 AM
It really is a great game up to level 20ish, where it becomes EQ1.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Murgos on August 08, 2005, 11:47:32 AM
50 Weaponsmith, 50 Alchemist, 49 Jeweler, 49 Woodworker, 42 Provisioner.

Carpal tunnel therapy pretty cheap these days?

Seriously man thats some clickin right there.  Is that all on one character or do you have to use different characters for each Artisian skillset?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: shiznitz on August 08, 2005, 11:51:34 AM
I have noticed a bit more n00bs in the game. Antonica is no longer deserted. However, these may be alts since T2 resource prices have shot up (4s for tubers! MONEY!) so maybe there are a bunch of alts with fat money purses churning tradeskills.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: UD_Delt on August 08, 2005, 11:58:16 AM
That's 5 different characters. Basically leveled up to support my adventurer with what he needed over the last year. I started playing a week after release.

I'm a lazy crafter though. I don't do the whole clicking buffs thing unless I'm doing rare combines or actively crafting. The vast majority of those levels come from playing poker on the laptop when I just glance over every 2-3 minutes and click a button and let the game do it's thing without my influence. It's also helpful having a large guild feeding you whatever harvests you need whenever you need them.

With the addition of the cross-over skills crafting also became much quicker to level. At each x0 (10,20,30, etc...) level you get tons of new combines. With new combines comes discovery experience and discovery experience means fast leveling. If I'm actively involved getting to level 25 only takes 4-5 hours now. Of course that 4-5 hours is spread across 2-3 weeks in order to rebuild vitality.



Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Murgos on August 08, 2005, 12:04:04 PM
What are cross-over skills?  Do you get to do recipies from other branches now or are you still entirely dependent on the whims of some other crafter?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: UD_Delt on August 08, 2005, 12:44:25 PM
What are cross-over skills?  Do you get to do recipies from other branches now or are you still entirely dependent on the whims of some other crafter?

Cross over skills mean you can make any subcombine in the game regardless of your actual class. You can still only do finished combines of your actual class ie... an Armorer is the only one who can make Armor, an alchemist is the only one who can make potions. But now anyone can make inks, steel sheets, liquids or what have you. Refines still only cost one fuel (liquids, metal bars, lumber, etc...) but the actual subcombines will cost double fuel if not native to your class.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Yegolev on August 09, 2005, 11:51:25 AM
It really is a great game up to level 20ish, where it becomes EQ1.

Thanks for slapping me to my senses.  Those other guys can go to hell for making me want to buy EQ2.  You go to hell and you die!


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Soukyan on August 09, 2005, 11:57:06 AM
It really is a great game up to level 20ish, where it becomes EQ1.

Thanks for slapping me to my senses.  Those other guys can go to hell for making me want to buy EQ2.  You go to hell and you die!

Ah, but getting up to level 20 or so should give you a month's worth of playing fun. Come on. 20 bucks and a free month. You really can't go wrong.

Of course, you won't see me there, but that's not because I lack the desire. ;)


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 09, 2005, 11:58:37 AM
You could just play the free 7 day Refuse Isle trial over and over.  It'll be every bit as exciting!


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Soukyan on August 09, 2005, 12:00:14 PM
You could just play the free 7 day Refuse Isle trial over and over.  It'll be every bit as exciting!

Effing brilliant, that is.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 09, 2005, 01:53:47 PM
I am officially a level 12 Druid now.  Went hunting with Schild for a bit today, he is around 11 or so now.  Anyone know what we need to do to form a guild?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Sauced on August 09, 2005, 01:59:46 PM
A group of 6 and 60 silver, I believe.

Got to 11 cleric last night.  What's your char name, Cheddar?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 09, 2005, 02:19:36 PM
A group of 6 and 60 silver, I believe.

Got to 11 cleric last night.  What's your char name, Cheddar?

Deoj.  Schild is, well Schild.  Everyone elses name escapes me at the moment (Stray and Murgos both started also).  I know Schild promised to put down the elf pr0n and play with us tonight though.  Watch out though he is an RP fool.  I will be back on tonight around 11pm or so.  Also rumor has it that one of the other admins purchased the game and will be starting soon; let the speculation as to whom it is begin!   :wink:


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 09, 2005, 04:21:28 PM
S-Child is Schild, Sauced is Sauced, Altan is Stray, Teucer is Murgos and Deoj is you.  That's the recent ones.  The ones who have been playing for a while don't count because they're uber.

I watch you all.  Closely.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: stray on August 09, 2005, 04:26:54 PM
I changed my name. Then quit.  :-) You're not watching close enough.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 09, 2005, 04:28:44 PM
S-Child is Schild, Sauced is Sauced, Altan is Stray, Teucer is Murgos and Deoj is you.  That's the recent ones.  The ones who have been playing for a while don't count because they're uber.

I watch you all.  Closely.

Holy shit that is a little scary.  Where are the obligatory boobies?  You are slipping. 

And Stray, you quitting for good or is this a temporary development?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 09, 2005, 04:37:57 PM
Yes, I remember that you quit, Stray... but you are so up and down, you make my head go round.  You are very hard to keep an eye on. 

For Cheddar: 

(http://www.jekyl.com/jekyl/graphics/packerfan.jpg)
 
Don't think of her as old.  Think of her as a finely aged emmentaler.



Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: stray on August 09, 2005, 04:38:56 PM
Yeah, I think I'm out, man. Not necessarily because I'm disgusted with the game itself (which is a miracle really), but because of the aforementioned ATI issues (http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tech_support&message.id=92549) I'm having. The solutions (if they can be called that) aren't really worth the trouble to me.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 09, 2005, 04:44:09 PM
I dl'd the Isle of Bile trial.   :-)  I've been standing in the same place for hours with no real motivation to move.  Earlier I re-found my hate for the horrible crafting set up which is what stopped me dead in my tracks.  I said stuff to S-Child, who ignored me, and watched Murgos log in but I rudely snubbed him and didn't say hello.  Some guy asked me to move because I was standing on something he wanted to click and I emoted rude gesture at him.

I'm having a kind of lazy day.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 09, 2005, 06:21:46 PM
Man I love me some older leather skins, thanks babe!  Experienced woman for the win?  Anyhow I would say it gets better Signe.  It does.  Maybe.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Sauced on August 10, 2005, 09:21:44 AM
That was fun last night.  I installed TS this morning, just have to dig out the old microphone from the basement.  I think the last time I used it was for Camelot RVR in the old Roger Wilco days.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Fargull on August 10, 2005, 09:29:15 AM
I have actually taken the hesitant step into EQII... even with Rasix's comment.  Anyway, I rolled up a priest, but have not made it off newbie island yet.  Will post my name tonight as I don't remember it.  Anything I should aim at? 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 10, 2005, 09:36:16 AM
I have actually taken the hesitant step into EQII... even with Rasix's comment.  Anyway, I rolled up a priest, but have not made it off newbie island yet.  Will post my name tonight as I don't remember it.  Anything I should aim at? 

Fill up on those nifty noob bags.  Unlike the ones you buy once you get off the island, these ones weigh nothing.  We look forward to seeing you on the mainland!


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Murgos on August 10, 2005, 10:34:46 AM
That was fun last night.  I installed TS this morning, just have to dig out the old microphone from the basement.  I think the last time I used it was for Camelot RVR in the old Roger Wilco days.
Crap, were going to have to use code to talk about you now.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Sauced on August 10, 2005, 10:58:31 AM
Crap, were going to have to use code to talk about you now.

That's true, and I'm really sorry about that.  But at least now I'll know why Schild goes afk every 5 minutes.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 10, 2005, 10:59:37 AM
I fucking hate Gnolls. 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Soukyan on August 10, 2005, 11:01:06 AM
I fucking hate Gnolls. 


How... random. ;)


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 10, 2005, 11:11:46 AM
Oh!  I read that inside out.  I thought he said he hated fucking gnolls... which is fair enough.

My eyes fool me like this all the time.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Ezdaar on August 10, 2005, 06:01:45 PM
Dammit now I want to resub.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 10, 2005, 06:02:16 PM
Go ahead, we need more for a tiny guild. But remember, we're playing VERY casually.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Ezdaar on August 10, 2005, 06:24:27 PM
I'm about as casual as you'll find. I'll probably reup when I find the DVD in the unpacking mess.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 10, 2005, 06:36:21 PM
Neatos. It's like fritos, but an adjective rather than a tasty snack.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Fargull on August 10, 2005, 07:10:47 PM
Alrighty,

Dwarven Priest named Mato.  Will start tossing hello's out when I get off of newbie ville.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 10, 2005, 07:14:33 PM
Welcome to zee "game."


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 10, 2005, 07:20:05 PM
For those of you just tuning in, here's a roster:

Steamfont Server:
Schild - Schild
Cheddar - Daoj
Murgos - Teucer
Sauced - Sauced
Stray - Altan, me thinks. But I haven't seen him on in a day or two. A birdy tells me he's going to break down, buy Madden and resub to Shadowbane.

Edit: And Fargull of course - Mato.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 10, 2005, 07:30:22 PM
For those of you just tuning in, here's a roster:

Steamfont Server:
Schild - Schild - Scout
Cheddar - Daoj - Priest/Druid
Murgos - Teucer
Sauced - Sauced Priest/Cleric
Stray - Altan, me thinks. But I haven't seen him on in a day or two. A birdy tells me he's going to break down, buy Madden and resub to Shadowbane.

Edit: And Fargull of course - Mato.

Added classes to your statement.  Really any class will fit our playstyle, but it is a good thing to know for people leaning either way.  I also have a level 10 mage I can slip back into if needed.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Fargull on August 10, 2005, 09:22:52 PM
When I hit 10, I will go Shaman just to keep the priest / thing interesting.  No fing clue about shamans, but what the hey.  Got off the island and finished my citizen quest (that is one boring follow the yellow line quest) and am 8th.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Soukyan on August 11, 2005, 04:53:50 AM
How casual is "VERY" casual, schild?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Murgos on August 11, 2005, 06:13:03 AM
How casual is "VERY" casual, schild?
I was the only one on from 8 to about 9:30 (est) last night and all I did was run around and look for quests.

And because it's not on the list.

Teucer Fighter/Crusader, eventually, Paladin.

edit:  We could probably use another tank (since during the week I won't play past 11ish est, prime time for the west coasters) or a mage.  We don't have any mages now.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Miasma on August 11, 2005, 06:39:52 AM
Did they ever add the ability to share money between your own characters through the bank?  That always drove me crazy, even EQ1 had that.  You either had to have someone you trusted or swap items through the shared slot and sell them.  Or, failing that, can you at least send yourself money with the new mail system they added?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Murgos on August 11, 2005, 06:58:46 AM
Did they ever add the ability to share money between your own characters through the bank?  That always drove me crazy, even EQ1 had that.  You either had to have someone you trusted or swap items through the shared slot and sell them.  Or, failing that, can you at least send yourself money with the new mail system they added?
Don't know haven't tried it.  I have a character in freeport that I will try and mail something to (pretty sure you can't just hand money over) and will let you know tomorrow.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: UD_Delt on August 11, 2005, 07:28:44 AM
You can only share things between characters of the same alignment. IE... good -> good.

You can share items through the bank vault and you can transfer coing through the email system. Annoying thing is it takes about 30 minutes for emails with attachments to show up so plan ahead when you want to shift cash. Alternately, if you want to exchange it fast the fuels from the tradeskill instances retain full value. So, just buy a couple of stacks of the 9s fuels and put those in the shared bank for your other characters to sell.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 09:27:08 AM
How far along is everyone?  I know myself and Schild hit 15 yesterday, and we finally got that jammy bastard some decent armor.  I was not able to get on last night due to technical difficulties, but after ghetto rigging some wiring and what not I am once again riding the INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY.  Its ghetto fabulous at my house right now (I also have some guys rebuilding my stairs so there is wood and shit everywhere outside. fun times). 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Murgos on August 12, 2005, 09:40:24 AM
I'm about a third of the way into 16.

How far did Schockeye get last night?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 12, 2005, 09:44:34 AM
I am level 5!!!  (but my free trial ran out)   :-P

Quote
How far did Schockeye get last night?

I heard only second base but... oh wait.  I think you're referring to something else.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 09:57:47 AM
I am level 5!!!  (but my free trial ran out)   :-P


20 dollars Signe, 20 dollars.  I mean shit thats less than what WUA makes from a single John.  Think about it.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Rasix on August 12, 2005, 09:59:40 AM
Shockeye... for shame...  :mob:


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 12, 2005, 10:11:19 AM
I have an unopened box of EQ2 around here some place, although I can't actually find it in all this mess.  It would seem wrong, however, to open it just to play the game.  I'd need a much stronger reason than that to void the key.



Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 10:12:40 AM
Why do women have to be so difficult?  And you guys wonder why I only date transvestites!


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Sauced on August 12, 2005, 10:21:46 AM
I'm about halfway through 13.  Didn't get on last night either.  You 2 got to 15 Wed. night?  Jesus.  What happened to casual?  Not that it took more than an hour or anything, of course.

And Shockeye's on board?  I figured he wouldn't be able to resist when he was hanging out in the TS channel talking shit the other night.



Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 10:27:44 AM
I'm about halfway through 13.  Didn't get on last night either.  You 2 got to 15 Wed. night?  Jesus.  What happened to casual?  Not that it took more than an hour or anything, of course.

And Shockeye's on board?  I figured he wouldn't be able to resist when he was hanging out in the TS channel talking shit the other night.



I found a nifty area where I can kill things 4 levels above me.  This definitely helped expediate matters (I think it took an hour for Schild to go from 14 to 15).  I am looking forward to hitting the sewers again soon; perhaps tonight if we can get a couple people together.  Nice thing is they have some mentor system - so even if people fall behind in levels they can join in the fun.  I am surprised Shockeye finally got the damn box open.  I figured it would be another week or so before he installed.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 11:10:38 AM
Just hit level 16.  Huzzah.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Fargull on August 12, 2005, 11:17:24 AM
Mato joined the spiffy ranks of full shamman hood last night and is currently 10.6 level.  I now have the nifty power to dump molasses on the enemy and taunt them.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 11:20:05 AM
Mato joined the spiffy ranks of full shamman hood last night and is currently 10.6 level.  I now have the nifty power to dump molasses on the enemy and taunt them.

I just found a shiny weapon that Shamans can use, though it may be better for Schild to utilize it.  Blackened Ornate Spear - Dual wield, +4 agi +7 Health +4 power, damage rating of 4.8.  I have various other shinies and will flip through them to see if any are good for Shamans. 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 12, 2005, 11:22:48 AM
Me likey.

Edit: BUt I can't play for an hour or so.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 11:31:45 AM
I found an undead boss, and I have to kill him.  Tonight.  I am going to do some house work and stuff for a couple hours, I should be back around 5pm at the latest.  I will be logged in though, just semi AFK, so message me or get your lazy asses in team speak if you need something from me.  Damn sponges!


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Fargull on August 12, 2005, 11:49:53 AM
Don't sweat the shiney's.  I generally am able to get in game around 9ish CST and can play till midnight.  Will try to swing Teamspeak, but my damn system can cause it to go fonky and I have to shut it down.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Toast on August 12, 2005, 01:05:23 PM
You people are crazy. This thread is making me want to start up again, even though I really didn't like the game. Sick.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Margalis on August 12, 2005, 01:33:54 PM
So do you people generally like it? WoW did nothing for me, partly because I *like* grouping.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 01:49:14 PM
So do you people generally like it? WoW did nothing for me, partly because I *like* grouping.

Yes.  I am having a blast, and will probably remain subscribed after the free month is over.  There is solo play and group play, both viable from what I have seen thus far.  Both require different focuses, and it is the fun.  I am constantly amazed as things go on.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Shockeye on August 12, 2005, 02:03:32 PM
I got level 3. I'm not impressed. The world is pretty but uninteresting. I prefer WoW.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 02:27:05 PM
Best way to enjoy yourself is not come in with preconceived notions.  As Murgos pointed out, isnt level 3 attained just by talking to the first person once you hit noob island?

please do not ban me sir I respect and admire your manliness


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: stray on August 12, 2005, 02:29:09 PM
As Murgos pointed out, isnt level 3 attained just by talking to the first person once you hit noob island?

Haha, come on Shock, even I held on for longer than that.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: HaemishM on August 12, 2005, 04:04:54 PM
Five levels is too much?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 12, 2005, 04:10:03 PM
Nah, Shockeye just has MMORPG Sand in his vagina. He misses his nightelf.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: HaemishM on August 12, 2005, 04:33:05 PM
Shouldn't that be mangina then?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: stray on August 12, 2005, 04:46:25 PM
I'm pathetic....Just went and bought a new card....I'll hop on later, so I can lvl up to 20 and then quit.

Btw, I've got like 4 AGP cards lying around now. Anybody want (NEED)?

FX 5200
Ti4200
Radeon 7500
Radeon 9550
 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 04:47:34 PM
You sir are a good man.  Kudos!


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 12, 2005, 06:01:37 PM
Is that Geforce a 256 meg one? Are any of them? My card is ass.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: stray on August 12, 2005, 06:28:22 PM
Is that Geforce a 256 meg one? Are any of them? My card is ass.

The 9550 is 256, but it's the one I've had EQ2 problems with (it's not the hardware, it's just SOE/ATI not getting off their asses). Not a bad card, but it's probably still considered lower midrange. It'll run HL2/Farcry/Doom 3 well, and BF2 decently. With older engines like UT2003/4, it's a breeze.

The FX5200 is 128. Pretty much ass for BF2, but can actually run HL2 "OK". Still good for UT as well.

The Ti4200 and the 7500 are 64. Basically what would be "budget" nowadays. Decent for two or three year old games like BF1 and less intensive stuff like Strategy games or DVD viewing.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 12, 2005, 06:45:00 PM
Yea, I wanted a 256 for BF2 and HL2. You selling or donating? PM me.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 12, 2005, 10:07:30 PM
If anyone else is around, we could really use one more person in game at Qeynos to start zee guild.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 12, 2005, 10:40:51 PM
Bat Country has now been formed.  Some say it means love, others think it is about mind altering substances.  I believe it is about aural infatuation.  We all have our opinions.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Shockeye on August 13, 2005, 01:57:40 AM
I'm up to level 6 and level 8 in tradeskills.

Still not impressed.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 13, 2005, 02:01:41 AM
Still not impressed.

That's ok. EQ2 isn't impressed with you either.

...ya bastard


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 13, 2005, 08:51:42 AM
I may pick this up today, depending on if the back alley surgeon finishes removing my kidney or not.

http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&expansionOID=-536879914&prodBlockOID=537039720

Just sharing the info in case anyone else is interested in doing an upgrade.  I am so tired of being the slow tard of the group.





edit. I know I left myself open with that last comment, but like the transvestite comment I assume it will be passed up.  :heart:


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 13, 2005, 09:14:54 AM
Are you the little girl in your avatar?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 13, 2005, 09:18:46 AM
Are you the little girl in your avatar?

No. That is my daughter.  But I cry like one every so often.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 13, 2005, 09:21:59 AM
She's adorable.

And your crying like a little girl is pathe cute, you great nancy boy, you!


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 13, 2005, 09:31:01 AM
Yeah she is adorable, as is my youngest.  They are living proof that looks skip a generation.  Of course it does not help that I am a Mr. Mom since getting out of the military.  Sheesh cooking, cleaning, ect.  Thats womens work!



Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Murgos on August 13, 2005, 09:57:45 AM
I may pick this up today, depending on if the back alley surgeon finishes removing my kidney or not.

url (http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&expansionOID=-536879914&prodBlockOID=537039720)

Just sharing the info in case anyone else is interested in doing an upgrade.  I am so tired of being the slow tard of the group.





edit. I know I left myself open with that last comment, but like the transvestite comment I assume it will be passed up.  :heart:

Why hassle with that mail in rebate to get 512 MB ram for $45.00 (really $75) )when you can buy it from NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145026) for $49.99?  If you order now you will have it by wednesday, probably.  Even better 1 GB Corsair matched set for ~$43 a stick. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440)


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 13, 2005, 12:26:53 PM
Good deal on the corsair, but I have 2 slots so it really would not get me ahead.  Really I am making (made) an impulse buy which is not justifiable at this point since I am living on my savings.  Also today is Saturday.  Wensday is like 4 days away, a veritable eternity for the intarweb.  I want to be competitive and I want it NOW. 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 13, 2005, 12:27:47 PM
God bless you, gamer.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 13, 2005, 12:42:41 PM
God I truly am a foolish man.  If I had waited one day the RAM I purchased would of been 50 dollars less.  But waiting 24 hours is not acceptable.  God this is almost better than Christmas.  People, I may possibly have the bug, and from EQ2 none the less. 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Shockeye on August 13, 2005, 12:59:53 PM
Get a therapist.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 13, 2005, 01:03:59 PM
Get a therapist.

u r a meany lol. 4 real


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Shockeye on August 13, 2005, 01:11:07 PM
Yes, I'm mean.

Instead of taking damage and making crappy shit in tradeskills, I just found out I can use skills while crafting to mitigate negative shit.

EQ2 != intuitive.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 13, 2005, 01:52:02 PM
That part was pretty intuitive, I mean, there's that whole knowledge tab just for crafting where you can mouse over and see exactly what each skill negates. But I know, reading and all that.  :roll: They should have done it with pictograms. A guy tossing water on a large "heat flow" or something.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Shockeye on August 13, 2005, 02:04:44 PM
Bah. I miss my elf.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 13, 2005, 02:14:43 PM
You can play your elf, but only if you equip one of these:

(http://ven000m.ru/defaces/panterasport.com/ven000m.jpg)


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 13, 2005, 07:59:24 PM
The RAM was worth EVERY single penny.  I am at 17.5 levels now; tonight I begin my crafting experience.  Evidently @ 14 craft skill I can begin constructing us Adept III scrolls.  HOO DAWG!


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Margalis on August 14, 2005, 05:19:21 PM
So, is this game actually fun or what? WoW did nothing for me at all. It does seem like EQ2 is making improvements 10x faster than WoW.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 14, 2005, 05:54:30 PM
So, is this game actually fun or what? WoW did nothing for me at all. It does seem like EQ2 is making improvements 10x faster than WoW.

It's a different experience. I want to say it's like EQ, but it's really not (not up to level 16 at least). The crafting is tedious, but the economic system is second only to SW:G (imo). I'll admit it. I'm liking it. It's about 400x better than it was in beta. They're doing a lot of things correctly and I look forward to the combat changes.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 14, 2005, 06:51:26 PM
It's kind of boring, but not mind numbingly boring like it was in beta.  Maybe the next patch/update/expansion/adventure pack will improve it even further. Crafting is still a horror, though.  It's hard to stay awake long enough to live through the process.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: schild on August 14, 2005, 07:07:00 PM
Crafting is still a horror, though.  It's hard to stay awake long enough to live through the process.

That's called ADD. Not AD&D. But ADD. At least you don't have to make 4,000 cement blocks to level a la SW:G. Here it seems that 10 items (with crafting vitality) will get you a crafting level as long as you're making stuff of white or better (experience wise). I like going around collecting up the resources and shit. It's the closest thing to treasure hunting that any of these games provide.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 14, 2005, 07:38:31 PM
Schild I love the new avatar!  Signe I liked the old avatar, though after your comment earlier your new one amuses me.  I prefer the older one though. 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Murgos on August 15, 2005, 06:09:44 AM
It's kind of boring, but not mind numbingly boring like it was in beta.  Maybe the next patch/update/expansion/adventure pack will improve it even further. Crafting is still a horror, though.  It's hard to stay awake long enough to live through the process.

Frankly the crafting bores me to tears, get off newbie isle and start doing some of the quests around Qeynos, IMO much more interesting.  They are not high art or anything but most of them are spoken (so you can be amused by the bad voice acting) and a few are fairly humorous.

So far I've found quests tacked to trees (literally, it was a wanted poster that poofed after I clicked it), under wood piles, in graves, behind paintings, off bookshelves (and books) and of course from NPC's everywhere.  Lots of them are multi-part, the ones you can purchase from the guild of mages library are pretty cool because they all have lots of back ground information on them.

Hunting around for quests has been the most fun I've had in an MMOG since the first month of CoH.  Oh and collections?  Luv.  Pure Luv.  I'll run through a camp of high red cons to grab a '?'.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Sauced on August 15, 2005, 09:31:59 AM
Up to 16.5 here.  Cheddar - keep crafting!  The Heritage and Armor Quests at 20 are right around the corner, and I'd hate to miss out.  I'll do some more catching up tonight.

The only thing I'm worried about right now is the "nerf" coming to Clerics.  The reactives currently add hate to whoever is getting whacked (and subsequently healed), not the cleric who cast the spell.  I need to get to 20 so I can wear plate before that fix goes live.  As it stands, it's too easy to just keep Soothing Sermon up at all times, and then have pretty much no healing to do whatsoever.

Hit the century mark in completed quests this morning.  I'd probably level faster if I didn't get all OCD when my backlog of green and blue quests hits the 20+ mark.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 15, 2005, 10:22:25 AM
Up to 16.5 here.  Cheddar - keep crafting!  The Heritage and Armor Quests at 20 are right around the corner, and I'd hate to miss out.  I'll do some more catching up tonight.

The only thing I'm worried about right now is the "nerf" coming to Clerics.  The reactives currently add hate to whoever is getting whacked (and subsequently healed), not the cleric who cast the spell.  I need to get to 20 so I can wear plate before that fix goes live.  As it stands, it's too easy to just keep Soothing Sermon up at all times, and then have pretty much no healing to do whatsoever.

Hit the century mark in completed quests this morning.  I'd probably level faster if I didn't get all OCD when my backlog of green and blue quests hits the 20+ mark.

I am actually finding the crafting relaxing - especially once you hit a rythm.  The problem for me is the cost.  I have already had to go hunting for cash just to support my catassing needs.  Oh yeah hit level 12 in crafting, though I did not spend much time doing it last night.  It is nice seeing some of the others  start playing, though Signe is very negative.  She is bringing my happy karma down  :-(


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Fargull on August 15, 2005, 10:48:46 AM
Couple of points.

Crafting is actually pretty easy.  The incidents that arrise that require the use of a cafting technique are currently limited to three per line.  So, open a hot bar and drop those three into it and go to town.  Secondary, Cheddar is right, bloody crafted food and drink is the bomb.  Pain in the ass about higher rec's is that sometimes you have to use different tier crafted components until you reach the top tier in the crafting of that item.  Probably sounds like greek and it is till you do it.

Anyway.  EQII has been pretty fun after you get through the bullshit kiddie march to 11 or 12th level and start adventuring in Anitonica.  Of course, I have not catassed to above 20th and thus that portion of the game is still blank.  The general feel is a little better flow that the original game.  As with all things EQ, the world feels better designed than WOW.  The game play is about the same between the two, but more polish with EQII so far.



Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Rasix on August 15, 2005, 10:59:50 AM
It is nice seeing some of the others  start playing, though Signe is very negative.  She is bringing my happy karma down  :-(

Her negativity is much needed.  Elation at playing EQ2 is a sure sign of a dangerous chemical imbalance.  Think of her as restoring your chi to its proper alignment.

Luckily two things are keeping me back from playing this.  The installer said this game is too much to handle for my laptop (on which WoW runs smooth as silk) and they somehow expect me to pay for the box after the trial is up.  Back to finishing old single player games and playing SNES games on my PSP.  WoW has already kinda reburned itself out with me. 

Still, glad people are enjoying this.  From all accounts this game isn't a giant cucumber in your bum anymore, but more like a shape charge timed to detonate around level 20.  From anyone that's played beta is the combat still kinda dull solo and are Qeynos and Freeport still somewhat comically bad in their portrayal of good and evil?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 15, 2005, 12:12:49 PM
Signe sorry for waxing idiotic in guild chat today.  EQ2 crafting is making me go peculiar; but goddamnit I kinda like it.  Its like sticking staples into your penis.  Shit did I just say that?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Miasma on August 16, 2005, 08:12:42 AM
I re-subbed and made an Iksar summoner on Steamfont named Stopgap.  I think I might betray because Freeport is so hard on the eyes.  Does anyone know if I can still join the guild if I'm from the opposite city?

The game seems a lot better than before.  I can solo more easily, there are fewer bugs, the quests can be organized by zone, and most importantly they finally caved in and allowed offline selling so I have some cash.  Tradeskills are still very boring but they are a nice break.  Newbies can now make a little cash by harvesting and selling.

I'm taking the "focus on quests, not levels" route that others have mentioned, so far it is a lot more fun.  If I run out of quests in the 20's though I'm in trouble.

Oh, and I won't make the same mistake of reading the official EQ2 forums, nothing saps my morale like thousands of people screaming about how bad things are.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 16, 2005, 09:00:14 AM
Yes you should be able to.  I may roll up an evil character as well.  Crafting has officially pissed me off.  Plus I can play as a rat or troll... man evil is cool.  Of course I will betray, but ya know.  Evil.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Fargull on August 16, 2005, 10:17:27 AM
Chedder,

HA!

Honestly though, making food and drink is the bomb.  I can now make drinks that last two plus hours.  I am hoping to get the food to the same point.  I can also make chests for the bank, though that is a PAINFUL process that is not fun, but am willing to do for the guild.

Now.  Dumb question, but how the FUCK do I sell shit to other players.  Driving me NUTS.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Miasma on August 16, 2005, 10:28:04 AM
First you buy a market board from a vendor, you will have to find one that sells them (there should be one in the same area as your house).  Then you place it in your home and double click on it to start listing stuff.  You used to have to stay in your house to sell anything but now you can put items in your vault (there is a button when you double click to get out) and sell from there offline or while playing.

The market board is also handy to see what is for sale from your own home, although you can't buy through it.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Gorky on August 16, 2005, 10:29:53 AM
This is how:

1. Open your house vault from inside your house
2. drop a couple of containers
3. open those containers and drop all your sellables in them
4. purchase a market board from a standard merchant (cost ~60c) and place it inside your house
5. use the market board and click on the vault tab
6. price all the items
7. close the window
8. wait
9. Profit!

PS: ensure all your items are listed as up for sale before logging out, sometimes items seem to get 'unlisted' by themselves

PPS: Easy way to make some cash: harvest roots from the Tier 2 zones and put them up for sale in stacks, looks like all the 'powercrafting' toons buy them for some serious coinage on established servers. On Najena where I play they sell for 10-20s each! thats insane

Also Tier 2 spell scrolls for popular classes (primary spells like DDs, Heals etc can sell for a lot, around 4g on Najena)

Get the biggest bags you can affor ASAP, makes a ton of difference.

A valuable hint to get a quick 8 slot bag for Qeynosians... talk to shady chars in starcrest commune, and listen to what they say carefully  :wink:


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Sauced on August 16, 2005, 01:25:27 PM
Yes you should be able to.  I may roll up an evil character as well.  Crafting has officially pissed me off.  Plus I can play as a rat or troll... man evil is cool.  Of course I will betray, but ya know.  Evil.

I'll be interested in your impressions of the Freeport side of things.  I had just started a Rat priest on another server about a week before this whole Bat Country mess got started, and it felt really slow.  Getting out into the Commonlands didn't feel like nearly as much of an "opening up" of the game as getting to Antonica.  And the city design, not a big fan.

I need to start using better food and water, definately.  Relying on Summon is already started to add some downtime.  Got over 2g in the bank, and I'm gonna need every cent of it to get plate in a few levels.  Hopefully I can find some quests other than the campfest AQs to get some decent armor.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 16, 2005, 01:47:17 PM
Yes you should be able to.  I may roll up an evil character as well.  Crafting has officially pissed me off.  Plus I can play as a rat or troll... man evil is cool.  Of course I will betray, but ya know.  Evil.

I'll be interested in your impressions of the Freeport side of things.  I had just started a Rat priest on another server about a week before this whole Bat Country mess got started, and it felt really slow.  Getting out into the Commonlands didn't feel like nearly as much of an "opening up" of the game as getting to Antonica.  And the city design, not a big fan.

I need to start using better food and water, definately.  Relying on Summon is already started to add some downtime.  Got over 2g in the bank, and I'm gonna need every cent of it to get plate in a few levels.  Hopefully I can find some quests other than the campfest AQs to get some decent armor.

Freeport blows.  It really feels like it was an afterthought; just my general opinion.  I cannot wait to get out of this shithole lemme tell ya.  But being a rat is cool - SONIC VISION FOR THE WIN!!!!111


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Fargull on August 16, 2005, 02:38:16 PM
Thanks for the info on selling.  Was making me batshit insane.

I actually enjoy the newbie monster zones in freeport much more than the shit we get in quenos... though I think crafting in quenos newbie wise is easier.

Cheddar,

Rat and Gnome.  Just makes me chuckle.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 16, 2005, 03:17:58 PM
Dude, gnomes and rats rule.  I mean what should I be?  Elf? wearing nothing but underwear with their doodles all hanging out for everyone to see.  Dwarf?  Yeah an alcoholic with eating disorders is the life for me!  Human?  I already play one on TV.  Erudite?  Get some sun you fucking hippies.  Halfling?  I guess those are ok, but hairy feet are the suck. 

Have I mentioned SONIC VISION yet?  Its cool! 


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Shockeye on August 16, 2005, 03:20:45 PM
Frog.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 16, 2005, 03:29:23 PM
Frog.

I would have suggested Prozac... licking frogs might just make him nuttier.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 16, 2005, 03:35:23 PM
Frog.

I would have suggested Prozac... licking frogs might just make him nuttier.

What?


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Fargull on August 16, 2005, 06:21:28 PM
Frog.

I would have suggested Prozac... licking frogs might just make him nuttier.

I think Shockeye was meaning Cheddar should be french, or is french, or something.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Shockeye on August 16, 2005, 06:22:30 PM
Frog.

I would have suggested Prozac... licking frogs might just make him nuttier.

I think Shockeye was meaning Cheddar should be french, or is french, or something.

Stinky cheeses and all that.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Signe on August 16, 2005, 08:01:25 PM
He is English cheese from Somerset.

(http://www.wisdairy.com/cheeseinfo/cheesechart-photos/cheddar-large.jpg)

Mmmm...  he is lovely and hardly stinks at all.



Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Cheddar on August 16, 2005, 09:07:59 PM
You people make me cry.


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: tazelbain on August 17, 2005, 06:55:35 AM
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/images/1030-02.jpg)


Title: Re: EQ2
Post by: Hoax on August 17, 2005, 04:45:44 PM
Are you guys seriously playing this game?  I mean it still doesn't even have /pvp on servers right?  I hate WoW but damn not so much as to give SOE money for anything other then PS.