(UO expansion) You'll all scoff, but I'm still going to jizz.

[hal]

Lant, very nicely said

[hal]

Its happened before. I'm playing wow again. entire roster well 2 servers worth of toons. every thing alliance can make. And I'm really grooving on warriors and rogues until I get to lvl 20, well 18 ish. Then I find I cant bear to play anything but priest, druid and pally. I dearly love co-op play in a supporting role. This is not a suprise I was a cleric main in eq. But the snap of my attention from the leveling levels to the first instance is very telling. And is great fun to me. This probally means something deep that I am way to much of a moron to appreciate but whatever.

[stray]

She didn't like CoV because of its influence on CoH and the promotion of PvP in both games.

Much like Numtini, I prefer a cooperative experience over a competitive one.  It is fairly common, although many of the competitive types do not seem to really understand it.

I can enjoy cooperative experiences too. I'm neither here or there. A game is a game. [edit] So long as it's a game.


Anyways, I really don't understand how she could feel so displeased with the PvP content to the point that she'd want to cancel her account -- simply because she didn't prefer a competitive experience (sorry for the long sentence). I don't find that to be a very good reason at all. The bulk of the game (at least 90%) is still "cooperative PvE". Buying CoV wasn't going to roadblock her preferred method of gameplay.

[Glazius]

The sad thing is I see people like her on the CoH forums all the time, whining about how they want the badges you get from exploring, fighting monsters, and completing objectives in a PvP zone (oh and the special powers too kthx) but think it's a terrible design flaw that they have to expose themselves to PvP to get any of them.

What if those zones didn't have PVP but instead had random purple mobs that could only be won by using a random obscure tactic, combo or just sheer dumb luck. Would her supposed aversion to that indicate fear and cowardice as well?

You think you're pulling that out of your ass, but you're not.

Those mobs are called "giant monsters", and they show up in most of the zones of CoV and select zones of CoH, and there are still badges there. Two giant monsters actually show up as ambushes. (And let me tell you, you haven't lived until you exit a warehouse, hear in team chat "wasn't there supposed to be an ambush here" and then 50 feet of scrapyard robot jumps up onto the overpass. Good times.)

If anybody quit CoX just because of the potential of being run right the hell over by a giant monsters, then yes, that's fear and/or cowardice beyond the call of all rationality, because giant monsters have about as much relevance to the badge grind as do other players in a PvP zone. The only difference is that giant monsters don't hunt you down at the hospital if you whine about them killing you.

--GF

[Slyfeind]

She didn't like CoV because of its influence on CoH and the promotion of PvP in both games.

Much like Numtini, I prefer a cooperative experience over a competitive one.  It is fairly common, although many of the competitive types do not seem to really understand it.

Most of em are still upset over the Trammel/Felucca split. Me, I'm still laughing about it.

Seriously though, I think they take the competition outside of the game. I used to think they were just trying to get more sheep to prey on, and thus convince more people to support their playstyle. I don't think that's the case anymore. They have to pwn you IRL too, and the place they bring the fight is on the message boards. Kinda goes along with the recent debate over whether the forums and chat are part of the game.

[Arnold]

UO was the first MMOG a lot of us ever played and for some reason we always stay passionate about our very first game even if we've stopped playing it years ago.

I was perfectly happy playing on SP.  Everyone on that server wanted to be there.  But we kept getting code bleed from the Trammel servers, and finally, they just up and changed the game completely.

I'd probably still be happily playing the game, on SP, if they hadn't done those things.

[Reg]

I think the thing that annoys me most about games that patch in PvP after the fact is that it inevitably leads to a massive rebalancing/nerfing of the existing PvE skills to accomodate it.

[tkinnun0]

The only difference is that giant monsters don't hunt you down at the hospital if you whine about them killing you.

That is the difference. The giant monster is there for your group have a good time, but the PVPer is there to make you lose.

[WindupAtheist]

Many thanks to whoever de-fagged my thread.  Rasix, I assume it was you.

/bow

[Rasix]

Yar.  I just don't think I could have yelled SHUT UP loud enough through the internet.

[WindupAtheist]

Just thought I'd bump this to blab about the Halloween event that started today.

Typing "trick or treat" will bring up a targeting cursor, and selecting a friendly NPC will usually get them to say something polite as they deposit some candy into your inventory.  Usually.  Every once in a while the NPC will yell "Trick!" and something strange will happen.  Some of the more interesting ones include...

*  Being instantly blown into giblets, with bodyparts left lying on the ground.  You don't lose any insurance money to this particular form of death, however, which makes it pretty much trivial.

*  Being polymorphed into a monster.  No special gameplay effect, you're just turned into a randomly chosen creature for about ten minutes.

*  Having to fight your evil twin.  An NPC duplicate of your character will appear, complete with all your stats, skills, and equipment, and immediately attack.  I thought this in particular was really cool.

In addition, grim reapers have been spawning in certain cemeteries.  They have ridiculous amounts of HP, good melee, a couple of unique wide-area debuffs on top of all the necromancy spells, and can drop artifacts.  They switch targets frequently, but when they're locked onto someone they'll follow that person to the ends of the earth.  They'll even follow you across the world if you cast recall to escape.  Naturally everyone who gets targeted recalls to Britain bank, and chaos ensues.

The last couple of in-game events, this and the ophidian invasion I referenced earlier in this thread, have been really good for a change.

[Driakos]

*  Being instantly blown into giblets, with bodyparts left lying on the ground.  You don't lose any insurance money to this particular form of death, however, which makes it pretty much trivial.

*  Being polymorphed into a monster.  No special gameplay effect, you're just turned into a randomly chosen creature for about ten minutes.

*  Having to fight your evil twin.  An NPC duplicate of your character will appear, complete with all your stats, skills, and equipment, and immediately attack.  I thought this in particular was really cool.

There is also one which will make your character scream, then trail/spurt blood for the next 10-20 steps.  No actual damage taken.

[WindupAtheist]

I was on Europa at 3am last night, meaning 8 or 9am local server time, and Brit bank was still a warzone.  A crowd of people was there fighting one or two grim reapers at a time, while people continuously gated between cemeteries looking for more.

Oh, and there's a very uncommon "trick" where you go invisible for a few minutes and can't reveal yourself, even by talking or casting.  Which means that every once in a while some guy in Felucca starts getting hit with spells and has no idea where they're coming from.  lol

[Tmon]

Oh, and there's a very uncommon "trick" where you go invisible for a few minutes and can't reveal yourself, even by talking or casting.  Which means that every once in a while some guy in Felucca starts getting hit with spells and has no idea where they're coming from.

That sounds like the first month of release.  What's next the trick that turns you into a ghost and lets you rez inside someone's house?

[WindupAtheist]

Given that it's a VERY uncommon trick, that it lasts for only a short time when it happens, and that this entire event is going away in a couple of days, I'm willing to let a few things slide.  A would-be PK would have to spam "trick or treat" literally all day just for a couple of minutes of inviso-ganking.

[shiznitz]

Given that it's a VERY uncommon trick, that it lasts for only a short time when it happens, and that this entire event is going away in a couple of days, I'm willing to let a few things slide.  A would-be PK would have to spam "trick or treat" literally all day just for a couple of minutes of inviso-ganking.

People camped rubicite armor for a month in EQ1. Being able to invisiibly kill people is 100x more fun. I would die laughing as my victim fell to the ground spamming "WTF!?" and I was never a PKer in UO.

[WindupAtheist]

Halloween event is over, and I never heard any hue and cry over the invisibility thing.  /shrug

In other news, Tweety is the new UO community rep.  Lawl.

[schild]

That thread has the worst goddamn sig images I've ever seen. And I've visited places like Gaia Online and Cyworld before.

[Reg]

God. They made Wilki a designer? Yuck.

[Nonentity]

That thread has the worst goddamn sig images I've ever seen. And I've visited places like Gaia Online and Cyworld before.

Holy crap, it's like they followed the 'Fantasy Montage Signature' technique to the T.

These people are soldiers in the army of badly photoshopping text onto even worse images.

[HaemishM]

Halloween event is over, and I never heard any hue and cry over the invisibility thing.  /shrug

In other news, Tweety is the new UO community rep.  Lawl.

Who'd she piss off to get stuck with that job?

[Simond]

It's almost a shame Lum left for NCSoft - imagine him as the UO CS rep. :-D

[WindupAtheist]

I notice now that someone named Jeremy Dalberg is actually the one taking over Wilki's role of Community Coordinator, while Tweety is referred to as Director of Community.  Is she splitting her time between DAoC and UO now?

[tazelbain]

This must be playing havoc with her duties as a fairy.

[Yegolev]

Halloween event is over, and I never heard any hue and cry over the invisibility thing.  /shrug

I would not have pegged the current UO playerbase as complainers.  Not ones to be taken seriously, anyway.

That thread has the worst goddamn sig images I've ever seen. And I've visited places like Gaia Online and Cyworld before.

And yet they all look vastly better than UO.

[WindupAtheist]

Speaking of sigs, Tweety has this as hers on Stratics:

Sanya M. Thomas
Director of Community Relations
(That isn't as dirty as it sounds.)
EA Mythic
http://www.camelotherald.com
http://www.warhammerherald.com
UO link coming soon(TM)

At which point one of the Stratics monkeys discovered this:

Registrant:
Mythic Entertainment
4035 Ridge Top Rd, Suite 800
Fairfax, VA 22030-7403
US

Domain Name: UOHERALD.COM

And Tweety replied thusly:

I wasn't going to say anything until we got further along, at least until I saw a draft. It's going to be pretty bare bones at first, too, with none of the stats the Camelot Herald has. UO.com is years old, and layers on layers of junk code. It will take months to excavate it all. The purpose of the UO Herald to start with is to make a place that puts up signed communicating the news of the moment, to start doing community news features, and to start a feedback system. So keep your expectations looooooooooow.

So Mythic is the all-in-one EA MMO division, with WAR as it's flagship title, and DAoC and a cleaned up UO filling out the roster.  At this point I consider a Station Pass sort of deal to be almost certain.

[Slyfeind]

In other news, Tweety is the new UO community rep.  Lawl.

Holy crap.  Truly UO is so old that it has become new again!

[HaemishM]

So Mythic is the all-in-one EA MMO division, with WAR as it's flagship title, and DAoC and a cleaned up UO filling out the roster.  At this point I consider a Station Pass sort of deal to be almost certain.

Amazingly enough, a station pass with those three games might not be a bad thing at all.

[WindupAtheist]

In other news, there's been another duper/cheater/whatever purge.  This one supposedly followed a great deal of observation and planning on who to go after, so while they only nailed 400 accounts, the effect has been very visible.  They didn't just nail a bunch of secondary accounts used to cheat, they paid attention and took down the primary accounts belonging to the cheaters.  Several very high-profile merchants on Europa were summarily banned, their shops standing stripped of vendors when the shards came back up.

I haven't checked this personally, but the noise I've heard is that a couple hundred auctions were quickly removed from a Europa-specific auction site, and that the eBay price of gold has gone up signifigantly.

[WayAbvPar]

So Mythic is the all-in-one EA MMO division, with WAR as it's flagship title, and DAoC and a cleaned up UO filling out the roster.  At this point I consider a Station Pass sort of deal to be almost certain.

Amazingly enough, a station pass with those three games might not be a bad thing at all.

Yeah, I might actually cough up a few bucks for that. Only if they eliminate spriggans from DAOC though.

[sinij]

In other news, there's been another duper/cheater/whatever purge.  This one supposedly followed a great deal of observation and planning on who to go after, so while they only nailed 400 accounts, the effect has been very visible.  They didn't just nail a bunch of secondary accounts used to cheat, they paid attention and took down the primary accounts belonging to the cheaters.  Several very high-profile merchants on Europa were summarily banned, their shops standing stripped of vendors when the shards came back up.

I haven't checked this personally, but the noise I've heard is that a couple hundred auctions were quickly removed from a Europa-specific auction site, and that the eBay price of gold has gone up signifigantly.

They are breaking up with tradition of nearly randomly banning wrong people. It was to the point of comedy how dupers always got away and wrong people always got banned in all UO 'purges'. Now if they got 'classic' server going, perhaps with new 3D client, they might get some people playing UO again.

[Yegolev]

Amazingly enough, a station pass with [WAR, DAoC, UO] might not be a bad thing at all.

Almost worth $10 per month!

[HaemishM]

Amazingly enough, a station pass with [WAR, DAoC, UO] might not be a bad thing at all.

Almost worth $10 per month!

I'd go with $15 a month, which essentially means you get DAoC and UO for free.

[WindupAtheist]

Now if they got 'classic' server going, perhaps with new 3D client, they might get some people playing UO again.

Doesn't Mythic already run "classic servers" for Camelot?  I could see them doing something similar here.  At least eventually.

[caladein]

I don't know, I paid $22 for just SWG and MxO for maybe half a year. Although I wouldn't do it myself, I'd file paying $20 for War/UO/DAoC as "not insane".