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Topic: "The Expanse" by Amazon [Formerly by Syfy] (Read 95249 times)
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Abagadro
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Khaldun
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I can see why, though--the deal is really bad for Syfy, because it's a very expensive show and the margins are thin for them. I hope Netflix or Amazon or Hulu pick it up.
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Ard
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Amazon seems likely. Theyve been pushing it hard since they acquired the streaming rights, and have the money to burn.
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Tale
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Although... Netflix streams it in the rest of the world (that's how I watch it in Australia, where it's not on Amazon - it also appears six months late and I can't legally watch it yet).
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jgsugden
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Amazon is eyeing a 4th Season pickup.
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2020 will be the year I gave up all hope.
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Abagadro
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Ha! You knew from the title they were going to do something like that but man they went all-in on the Delta-V.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
-H.L. Mencken
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SurfD
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Ha! You knew from the title they were going to do something like that but man they went all-in on the Delta-V.
Yep, having read the books, that episode title was a pretty awesome giveaway.
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Abagadro
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Woot, its official. Amazon picked it up. I forgive you Bezos for the extra 20 bucks you are tagging onto Prime.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
-H.L. Mencken
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Soln
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the opportunity for evil is just delicious
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I just started S1. It's terrific. Glad there's more to look forward to.
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Khaldun
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This has pretty much become my favorite SF episodic series.
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Abagadro
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Ya, its really good. The way they pulled off Abadon's Gate in only half a season was pretty impressive. Can't wait to see what they do from here with Amazon.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
-H.L. Mencken
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Soln
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the opportunity for evil is just delicious
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Im in S2. It's grand space opera, but the fact they give a shit about the characters and actually develop them is admirable.
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Khaldun
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I'll be curious to see if they get on and off Ilus relatively quickly, as Cibola Burn is maybe the slowest of the books in plot terms. But it's overall really critical to establishing the new status quo, so they'll have to think carefully about it.
At the end of the 3rd season finale, my wife was like, "Oh, now it's going to be Star Trek and Holden will be like Kirk, that's sort of disappointing". I was like, nope.
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Not to go off on too much of a tangent, but I was given the first three books as a trilogy and loved them. Then I learned there were several more with no apparent end in sight. Is it worth continuing on with the series or do we think it's going to end in frustration as these things often do?
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Bokonon
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Not to go off on too much of a tangent, but I was given the first three books as a trilogy and loved them. Then I learned there were several more with no apparent end in sight. Is it worth continuing on with the series or do we think it's going to end in frustration as these things often do?
It's a signed 9 book series, book 8 comes out this December, they have been releasing once a year the whole time (only delay was 6 months, from June to December, when the TV series started).
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Mandella
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I'mma skipping over most of the comments here since you guys are spoiling the hell out of future developments (curse you literate people who read the book first!), but I just wanted to jump in and say that this last season was science fiction perfection for me. They even got the ships turned around right to show them braking into orbit (something they screwed up a couple of times in second season). Tech stuff that looked right, lots of zero-g action, reasonable human reactions to things, good political backdrop, and I don't think they ever "reversed the polarity" once.
Glad they got the Amazon gig. Can't wait to see what they do with it.
And Amos is perfect:
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Khaldun
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The books hold up so far, in my humble opinion. There is very little sense of stalling or padding--each book moves the status quo forward significantly, sometimes startlingly so. The characters are also getting older and that is making a difference. The antagonists are mostly interesting, complex and generally somewhat sympathetic in some way. Won't go into the details. The major shoe that has still to drop is anything particularly detailed about the Ultimate Menace which has made its appearance for the first time in the last few episodes of this season.
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Bokonon
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And do they hold up?
I would say Cibola Burn (the 4th book), is the weakest of the bunch, though if you are a big enough fan of the series, it's still pretty good. The books (at least the first 4-5) were written (according to the authors) with specific themes in mind. Book 1: Space Opera + Noir Book 2: Space Opera + Tom Clancy Book 3: Space Opera + Haunted house Book 4: Space Opera + Western I think I read an article that book 5 was Space Opera + War and Peace, but there might have been some joking involved. I am up-to-date on the books and am looking forward to see how they conclude the series in Books 8/9. There are also novellas/short stories (4 or 5 I think), if you blow through the main books. At least 2 of the short stories have been turned into episodes/arcs in episodes.
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My view (stated in the book thread, of all places) is that the first book is the best but that the later ones are still readable and enjoyable, if a bit more padded out. Got to expect that if they're churning one out every year, though.
Not sure they can deliver on the undercurrent they're been teasing, but will keep reading and see.
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All three seasons of The Expanse have just gone live on Amazon Prime video (Amazon's cheap Netflix equivalent), after Bezos saved the series. Season 4 coming soon.
It's no longer a Syfy network show, but it is the best sci-fi show right now.
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I always forget how good this show is.
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I had not read the books (I've started now) and the TV show always leads to "holy shit" moments for me.
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Khaldun
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It's just such a good combination: a long-term narrative arc that's not afraid to unsettle the status quo and where you believe (for good reason) that almost anything could happen; some relatable, interesting characters; some smart thinking about the politics and sociology of human society in this setting; and some serious respect for the technological underpinnings of the show.
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Loved the books, loved the TV series. Keep em coming!!!
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SurfD
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Nine. More. Days.
Then it's time to lose an entire weekend binge watching the whole season :P
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Which reminds me I might need to, uh, Shiver Me Timbers, and get caught up on this. Have only seen the first two seasons, seeing as how they took it away from Netflix, the socialist bastards.
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The third season is the best so far. It's also interestingly structured a bit like a Walking Dead season - a new arc begins mid-season.
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They seem to have structured it so that cliffhangers can happen at the end of seasons so they aren't doing a season a book. Book 1 ended mid-season 2 and season 2 and 3 seems to have handled books 2 and 3. Not sure how the books are structured after that, but they aren't keeping themselves to a strict outline according to the books.
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Abagadro
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4th book is pretty self-contained story-wise so I don't expect a ton of cutting back and forth to different venues as much as previous seasons. I think they may likely do the full story arc for book 4 this season. The story of book 5 really doesn't mesh with book 4 well at all, the main players are literally not in the same systems across the 2 books.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
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Khaldun
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I suspect they'll do all of book 4 but start seeding book 5, if for no other reason than you don't get any Avasarala in book 4 except at the beginning (and maybe the end? I don't recall clearly.)
I also think they may take the time to introduce a certain Martian commander who is important later in the series.
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Abagadro
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Agreed. They will have to sprinkle some of that in there to prep as I don't see how they can even do all of book 5 in one season given the split perspectives unless they change up the structure, although that would kinda blow apart all the plot lines.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
-H.L. Mencken
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Agreed. They will have to sprinkle some of that in there to prep as I don't see how they can even do all of book 5 in one season given the split perspectives unless they change up the structure, although that would kinda blow apart all the plot lines.
I suspect they'll take care of a lot of the ground work for Book 5 with Bobbie's adventures on Mars this season as well as perhaps with the Belters. Depending on how they play things out they could spend the end of the season setting up Book 5
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Abagadro
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« Last Edit: December 07, 2019, 01:58:19 AM by Abagadro »
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
-H.L. Mencken
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