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I can't wait to play this game again. I'm probably never going to play it though. For me to come back the current devs need to take a hike and some additions:
1) New classes 2) New skills per weapon (collectible with achievements or exploration or other hidden content) 3) New weapons for each class
This living story thing, while fun, is not worth sticking around for and I never liked the zerginess of WvW to ever bother again. This game needs actual updates.
Plus side at least this part of the live story is not zergy at all so far. Mostly like your personal story for your class some running around and finding stuff and some personal instances. God though coming from wildstars to this I forgot how much crap gets thrown in GW2 that there are no telegraphs for kinda annoying to try to figure out what needs to be dodged and what doesn't.
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Sir T
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The actual storyline they are trying to tell looks potentially interesting but we will have to see. It doesn't help that I want to strangle some of the NPCs you are stuck with though.
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Kageru
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Yes, it is like the worst fan-fiction...
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Lantyssa
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Does it have a Mary Sue villain yet?
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Zetor
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Does Scarlet count?
IMO they should just retcon Tybalt and Sieran (along with any number of asura side characters, like the golem deathmatch announcer holowizard) and have them accompany the PC as he/she romps around Tyria kicking faces, saving stray kittens, discussing the finer details of the apple trade and whatnot. I'd buy that for a dollar, etc.
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Setanta
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Ypu had me at Tybalt.
I wonder if GRRM was writing for them: "Here, have a well-written, interesting character with decent back story and conversation... and now they die". Then they got Michael Bay in to do Scarlett: "Mary Sue... blows things up - add more fire, blow more shit up, more explosions, dialogue, blow shit up". Not sure who directed the Arah dragon fight, probably David Lynch or Woody Allen - you know there's a story there somewhere - but you just don't care.
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Lantyssa
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I'm guessing totally different writers between the two teams, but yes. It's a pretty dramatic difference.
I'd settle for a "they're not really dead" superhero rebirth if it got us better characters. (Note, the current writing team is not allowed to touch them if that happens.)
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Sjofn
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I don't remember who the hell Tybalt is.
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Rasix
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I don't remember who the hell Tybalt is.
Dead apple merchant. He'll be played by Sean Bean in the Guild Wars movie.
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Sir T
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I don't remember who the hell Tybalt is.
He's your mentor if you join the Order of whispers. He would love your apples! All 3 of the order mentors were great characters. Then you meet Trehearne... Urgh. The tragedy is that if you read Trehearne's dialogue its actually great, its just that the voice actor mangles it completely. I read it in my mind with Optimus primes voice and it would have been fabulous. Urgh.
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Sjofn
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Man, I still don't remember this Tybalt person at all. And I DID join the Order of Whispers! Twice, I think!
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Threash
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Tybalt was awesome. The only time the entire scarlet storyline had any impact at all was when the bitch made me fight Tybalt in that giant tower of hers.
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Sjofn
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Ohhhhh right, that guy. Man, I had completely forgotten about him. Honestly, the only characters I even sort of remember is your douchebag friend as a human noble and the charr you went joyriding with after getting shitfaced as a Norn.
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Simond
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I don't remember who the hell Tybalt is.
He's your mentor if you join the Order of whispers. He would love your apples! All 3 of the order mentors were great characters. Then you meet Trehearne... Urgh. The tragedy is that if you read Trehearne's dialogue its actually great, its just that the voice actor mangles it completely. I read it in my mind with Optimus primes voice and it would have been fabulous. Urgh. The majority of GW2 voice acting is...not exactly bad per se, but odd. It's like they did so many takes that the VAs got bored or fed up in the end, and then they used that one. And that's not even counting the multiple mispronunciations - seriously people, "quay" is "key", not "kway"!
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Modern Angel
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Golem being pronounced as Gollum drives me up the fucking wall. I bugged it like five times in the alpha to no avail.
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Lantyssa
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Kwaa is acceptable in American English. I didn't even know it could be pronounced Key.
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Ingmar
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"Quay" is "kway" in American English, yeah.
Most of the voice acting IS bad - often even when turned in by otherwise good voice actors. It gives me much more of an appreciation for what a good voice director does for a game, that's for sure.
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Zetor
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Terrible voice acting has been a staple for GW since Prophecies, though. My guildies STILL make fun of Rurik / Undead Lich (lol) / Togo / Danika / almost the entire Nightfall cast whenever GW1 comes up.
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Simond
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Kwaa is acceptable in American English. I didn't even know it could be pronounced Key.
Okay, chalk that one up to another case of "Americans can't speak proper like wot I do".
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What I find sort of funny is SUPER terrible voice acting is apparently a Norn racial trait.
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Rasix
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As well as any non-playable race.
Bear shaman Marga is hilariously bad.
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Nevermore
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Quaggan sad.
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Ingmar
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The placeholder text-to-speech engine in the TESO beta did a better job of voice acting than most of the scouts and vendors in this game.
That is not an exaggeration.
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Stokowski
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The move to "kway" in American English is a relatively recent development. (A case where ignorance slowly becomes embedded.) You can actually trace the historic shifts from "kee" to "kwey" to "kway".
Don't get me started how the game butchered "centaur" and "minotaur".
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Sir T
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Second chunk of the living story debuted today. I have to say, its a VAST improvement over the first part, with some actual half decent story telling and some very dangerous monsters being added to the mix. Expect to die a quite few times before you figure out how to deal with them. The new area is quite a bit of fun as well.
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Setanta
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I'm not sure that anything could be worse than part one. Biggest non-event ever. For a game that has beautiful graphics and had so much potential - the turd that is the living story is pathetic.
I'll still log in to check it out though.
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Modern Angel
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Yeah, yesterday's content is legit. The writers can't fucking write dialogue, which lets the thing down a bit at a very serious moment (no spoilers, but bad jokes with terrible voice acting at the most serious, history altering point of the story is a no no), but damn, the larger story unfolding in this episode is actually good.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Rasix
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I already got zee boot! I just checked. I did too! Then I looked at doing the first part of the living story and it's 200 gems because I didn't log on for a while (Wildstar then Divinity). So much motivation to play.
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Nevermore
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Wait, what? You have to spend gems to access the new content? So this is basically a paid expansion?
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Rasix
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I guess if you don't log in when it's the current living story iteration, gems are required to unlock it. So, I can do part 2 for free, but part 1 costs gems. This is truly, truly outrageous.
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Sir T
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Yes, if you log in during the 2 weeks that an episode is "active" you can do that episode for free, even if you don't actually do that story till later.
I wouldn't waste my money on episode 1. The highlight is girlylesbian telling a badly wounded and dying woman that she loves her dress and must get something in that colour, followed by me punching something. Though there is a fairly tough boss fight.
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Sjofn
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I can't remember how much gems are to know if 200 gems is a lot or not.
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