War

[Amarr HM]

I mildly disagree in that they could be overheating/mindlinked and yes slaves are good now though I think Halos will be the new way to go with fast ships. Go wild on their pods though please do.

[WayAbvPar]

So, go for the pods,

The pods, Boo! The pods!!

[Endie]

So this begs the question how did you know they had snakes fitted? Also snakes only give you 20% speed bonus now so I can't imagine anyone wearing them anymore, in fact podding someone with snakes you are probably doing them a favour.

Like Gou says, you could tell a high-grade snakes-wearer, especially if you are sitting at 200km in an eagle watching their hac/inty.  Sniping in big fleet fights, once you get used to it, you actually have the chance to watch quite a lot of info on your overview.

Anyway, among the many returning vacationers are a few important figures.  This one, for instance.

[Goumindong]

I mildly disagree in that they could be overheating/mindlinked and yes slaves are good now though I think Halos will be the new way to go with fast ships. Go wild on their pods though please do.

No, you can assume they are mindlinked. Once you hit a certain speed, mindlinked doesn't cut it. I know, i am a near maxed skirmish specialist. Pre QR once someone was hitting >12km they had to have some kind of non-t2 module or implant. 14-15 were rogues, 16+ was snakes, 20+ was snakes and faction.

As well, you don't [at least didn't until a few weeks ago] overload in a fleet fight unless you really had to get out. The last time i did it, i burned 80km on my abso before my mwd turned off.(saved my ass through). To top this all off, you couldn't overload during the period he was discussing.

[Amarr HM]

Right yeh I agree with that last point just saying it can be tricky to tell but maybe your powers of deduction are better than mine, also I'm usually the one trying to catch the bugger so I don't get time to know his exact max speed. If they are over a certain speed though (in the past) it was guaranteed they either have a faction MWD or snakes. Goons should pay 1m ISK for every -A- pod you kill.

[Pezzle]

Suas is back?

[Sparky]

Is he sober?

Also get him to record another song before goons burn him out again with their general terribleness please.

[Pax]

Oh dear. Now with 100% more Seleene chatporn.

[Amarr HM]

That's wayyy too TL:DR.

[Endie]

Suas is back?

Suas is back.  Hiid is back.  We're getting the old band back together.

Is he sober?

Thus far.  He is already rallying huge gatecamps withe the combined powers of awesomeness and his guitar.

Oh dear. Now with 100% more Seleene chatporn.

Heh.  And him deciding that he and his remaining chuckleheads (who got hammered in Curse then in Fountain) will join up as AAA pets to fight us?  Local chat will be awesome.

I'm intrigued, actually, by the decision of ET et al to ask him to join in: the bulk of AAA always hated MC before.

[Endie]

Sorry about the double post, but this image about our new EBay-funded enemies seemed pertinent:



Our logistics guys at the moment seem to be divided heavily between those of us repping up the damage from last night's Pearl-Harbour-style attack and those fueling JBs for the allies who are arriving to volunteer.  I already spent an evening sitting at hostile POSes with the tiny capfleet of one bunch who came down absolutely literally within hours of the announcement, before it even took effect.  If they'd been hotdropped they'd have been fucked, and I was absolutely terrified in my carrier, the whole time, especially when a hostile warped in to bubble us , but by fuck if they ever get invaded I'll be up there to repay the favour.  I suppose that's the difference between allies and pets.  We're going to come under massive pressure, and will lose systems, but I'm confident that we'll soak it up.

That said, I just plat-insured my carrier.  Though since it only cost about 480 mill or so I might be tempted to insurance-fraud it if it is still around in 11 weeks...

In other news, Operation Max Damage continues to pound the north into submission.  How will northern killboards hold up under the pressure of all those overwhelming capfleet victories?  I bet that Molle is wondering if he can get away with standing on the deck of an aircraft carrier, declaring "Mission Acomplished (we got good fights lolol)" and scampering back to Delve, tail between legs, to join in on the goon-pounding.

[TheWalrus]

Just finished propulsion jamming 4 and I'm excited to throw my body onto the flame. I'm mildly worried bout finding a jump clone however, because I'd hate to lose those +3s just fucking around.

[sanctuary]

I can't read the Kugu site from work, so this question may already be answered there. Is BDCI still a member of requiem? And for gods sake why did Seleene agree to the AAA contract? I'm assuming they're mercs but I could be wrong.

Who has control of Paragon Soul? and if not goons, are they getting involved?

[Pezzle]

Merc contract?  I have not read whatever is going on dramallama but if BDCI gets involved on the AAA side here and loses that might be the end of any credibility redemption?  May we live in interesting times.

[Pax]

If one wants to believe CAOD (lol yeah, right), Seleene has wanted to make out with Evil Thug before, but ET wasn't very receptive.

[Pezzle]

I really do not care what people do for a living.  The moment a pay subscription service gets dominated by currency sellers there is a serious problem.  If AAA sold out for cash, shame. 

We will just see what the future holds eh?

[Nerf]

I'm tired so I'll edit this in the morning, but heres the short of it thus far --

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape  http://f13.7mph.com/?a=home

Those kills are just the ones /I/ was on.  Final count was I believe 40 dead russians, 3 dead goons.  It was fucking clownshoes, and for the next 3.5 hours the  russians wouldn't even fucking log in or leave their posses.

[Endie]

Yep, things seem to be going pretty damn well so far.  We've been attacked in western and eastern Feyth as well as in Esoteria, our jump bridge network is severed in four places and we're facing huge gangs lurking threateningly in our space for long periods of the euro TZ.

But we had two sets of fleet engagements yesterday, against SE and allies in Esoteria, then against AAA in Feythabolis, and we won them both: the first handily enough, but the second convincingly.  More impressively, the first fleet was helped by our allies but the second, with which we thumped AAA around the block, was almost entrely Goonfleet in composition.  Maybe us having sixteen scorps to their one might have helped?  It's no wonder they hardly killed a thing.

There's a long way to go, and we all know we're going to have some welp days, lose systems and get hammered in capfleet fights, but the fact is that we defended our towers in their first Shock and Awe e-peen-waving weekend and now they have to defend some that we attacked.  The next indicator that things might just not be going quite to our enemies' plans will be when AAA and SE set each other blue and start combining forces in single fleets.

By the way, our enemies are discovering that bringing all your trash along for a Terrifying Fleet Of Death succumbs to the law of diminishing returns.  I could list many hilarious killlmails (the close-range rokhs with honour tanks were a delight) but two in particular are telling:

http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/262061

For one thing, what is missing from this interceptor fit?  Perhaps any form of tackling whatsoever?  He has an MWD II, but has then decided that zipping around the battlefield doing an occasional 30DPS to get on killmails and desperately hoping not to die is the extent of his role.  Thus, presumably, the damage control in a low slot.

Secondly, note that he is jammed, 2 minutes into a fleet fight.  As Graham said, "well by like 1 minute into the fight we had more scorpions than they had BSes so yea honestly im surprised there aren't fighters on that killmail".

And in the earlier fight, http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/261963

Yes, the heavy-missile-spewing fleet apoc of death.  Also, note the ewar looking desperately around for stuff to jam here: five falcons 

[Fordel]

I didn't even know Apoc's HAD missile slots.

[Goumindong]

But we had two sets of fleet engagements yesterday, against SE and allies in Esoteria, then against AAA in Feythabolis, and we won them both: the first handily enough, but the second convincingly.  More impressively, the first fleet was helped by our allies but the second, with which we thumped AAA around the block, was almost entrely Goonfleet in composition.  Maybe us having sixteen scorps to their one might have helped?  It's no wonder they hardly killed a thing.

You have to be fair though, they took a calculated risk.

We ran a jump freighter into the system, and they tried to kill it. I think they got about 5-6 of the escorts since stackless IO meant that it had no problem jumping into a system with 400 people and getting off the gate, Once our fleet got there, our 20+ dictors went to work and it was an absolute slaughter.

Unfortunately, Client lag was so bad for me i was unable to get on a single killmail, i was in the escort and the jump freighter was able to jump into system, align and warp before i loaded. I had less frames in the fight than they killed ships.

[Thrawn]

Unfortunately, Client lag was so bad for me i was unable to get on a single killmail, i was in the escort and the jump freighter was able to jump into system, align and warp before i loaded. I had less frames in the fight than they killed ships.

Client lag raped me as well,  I was one of the dictor-swarm members but I never got on a single killmail because my client lag was so bad.  Was pretty depressing since I can't afford to upgrade my PC atm so I might be stuck to just small fleets for now and avoiding the big fights. 

Was sure nice for morale to wipe out that -A- fleet so readily though.  We had a very impressive sub-cap fleet. 

*edit* I see they already reinforced VNG again though.

[Comstar]

I hsf the same issue: its a new bug. If you stay logged in for a while client lag gets very very bad, you get stutters etc. Logging out and in again apperntly fixes it.

[Goumindong]

I hsf the same issue: its a new bug. If you stay logged in for a while client lag gets very very bad, you get stutters etc. Logging out and in again apperntly fixes it.

I had crashed, restarted, got in gang and waped back and it was still bad. i changed my cache settings from normal to low, and that looks like it might have had a bit of an effect.

Also, we seem to be killing caps in 0oyz

edit: 3 caps

[Endie]

In news from other fronts, Bob in the north (after losing their fifth massive cap fight in a row) seem to be accepting that they're just not as good as the opposition at cap fights.  And maybe "lol we've already replaced them all" is wearing thin:

New deployments from 16/11 onwards

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We're parking the capitals for the next couple of weeks and switching out to griefing the crap out of the area. All your cap alts can be parked in obe once you get them out of e-o.

We're switching down to smaller ships. Order of the day is cloaky dictors, recons, stealth bombers. Your directors will have more detailed orders for various corp ops you'll be doing in the area but cloaky stuff will be your basic ship of griefage. Gonna give things a couple of weeks to die down while we camp down bridges and station systems and just piss them off en masse.

We're going to be tryin other new things as we go, remote reps for fleets, smartbomb gangs basically whatever wierd wacky wonderful rubbish we can think up at the time.

BoBs AO for this is tribute and it'll be us on our own. The allies have their own jobs so we can get back down to basics and sort you guys out before we have to worry about them flying ruptures and hurricanes in fleet with t1 220mm and crap.

Alliance scale griefage starts tomorrow. so get your gear together.

That's right: Bob are freed from the shackles of POS warfare    Gotta love the insult to their long-suffering pets there, too: that must build bonds.

[Sparky]

BoB have always treated their pets like shit, hell they coined the term "pets".  It's a mystery to me why anyone would put up with their shit.

[Jayce]

Now I understand where the widespread self-deprecation by new players/characters may come from.  There's nothing better than "Ruptures and Hurricanes" (and Rifters I might add) with 200mm guns "and crap" taking down 100x their isk value in "elite" ships flown by arrogant fucks that can't seem to win even with a mighty cap fleet or three.

[Sparky]

The irony is BoB aren't that great at subcap shit anyway.  They've forgotten how to do much more than blob up with caps and roll.

[Goumindong]

Now I understand where the widespread self-deprecation by new players/characters may come from.  There's nothing better than "Ruptures and Hurricanes" (and Rifters I might add) with 200mm guns "and crap" taking down 100x their isk value in "elite" ships flown by arrogant fucks that can't seem to win even with a mighty cap fleet or three.

Well, they should be fitting 650's and 720's

[Endie]

The irony is BoB aren't that great at subcap shit anyway.  They've forgotten how to do much more than blob up with caps and roll.

This is what struck me: they're going to try and do small-ship tactics within easy reach of Pandemic Legion?  Ell-Oh-Lell.

[JoeTF]

The irony is BoB aren't that great at subcap shit anyway.  They've forgotten how to do much more than blob up with caps and roll.

The irony is today.

BoB went to do lame, meaningless gatecamps and our pets (that were, uhm... ill-looked for being unable to organize anything bigger that 20 man ad-hoc gatecamp in Obe), ran very successful capital hotdrop, luring in and killing 100% of enemy cap fleet (no really, they killed them so fast that not a single one managed to control+q in time. And that's something!).

It's like the roles totally reversed.

[Phildo]

By your pets, do you mean Triumvirate?

[Goumindong]

By your pets, do you mean Triumvirate?

Is any of the old Tri in the new Tri? I know the illuminati[which was their only good combat corp iirc], went and joined PL, but that is all.

[lac]

Didn't d00m et al reform Tri after a failed attempt at an alliance with some ex-MC members?

BoB went to do lame, meaningless gatecamps and our pets (that were, uhm... ill-looked for being unable to organize anything bigger that 20 man ad-hoc gatecamp in Obe), ran very successful capital hotdrop, luring in and killing 100% of enemy cap fleet (no really, they killed them so fast that not a single one managed to control+q in time. And that's something!).

I suppose you referring to the 0utbreak massacre. I was wondering what had happened there.

[Phildo]

d00m and Coracoa Ardente are the core of the new TRI, along with one or two of the MC corps that were in The Requiem with them.  Requiem itself is a pale shell of its former (month-long) glory, or was last I heard.


Edit: grammar snake

[Slayerik]

By your pets, do you mean Triumvirate?

Is any of the old Tri in the new Tri? I know the illuminati[which was their only good combat corp iirc], went and joined PL, but that is all.

Who do you fly with again? I think that's a pretty unfair picture you paint ... then again I actually flew with them so I might just have a clue. But yeah, I am also friends with Wargoat and a few Illuminati pilots that are definetely skilled.