The Beginning of Something Good (Batman thread)

[Llava]

(For example, I think everyone in this thread who says Nicolson was in any way good as the joker needs to be shot in the head.  But that's just me.)

Perhaps not shot in the head, but I agree.  I didn't really care for his Joker.  Hammill's Joker is the definitive Joker.  Nicolson should take acting lessons from Hammill.  (How often do you get to say that sentence?)

[Nevermore]

The basic criteria are these:
Someone who can display manic energy
Someone who radiates unpredictability and a dangerous edge.
Someone who can derive pleasure and humor from sadism.
Someone who does something just because they can.

Tim Roth would work.

[Big Gulp]

Tim Roth would work.

I agree, and also it's been a while since I've seen him around.  He needs the work and would seem to fit in with their "Brits only, except the skanky ho who's a beard for a Scientologist" policy.

[Ironwood]

And yet it's the superior Batman film.

Just Sayin'

[Big Gulp]

And yet it's the superior Batman film.

Just Sayin'

No doubt.  You seem to think I give a rat's ass about which country gets the casting.  I couldn't care less about which country's spoiled celebrities get cast, I just want a good movie.

[stray]

And yet it's the superior Batman film.

Just Sayin'

Wait, I thought you were a Scot?

[Ironwood]

So ?  Just like Gulp, all I care about is a good movie too.

(oh, and I have a friend who was cast as an extra in it.  It'd be nice for her to get another cheque.)

[stray]

So ?  Just like Gulp, all I care about is a good movie too.

(oh, and I have a friend who was cast as an extra in it.  It'd be nice for her to get another cheque.)

Umm...OK. Swing and a miss.

Anyways...I don't care either way. More Brits I say, if that's what it takes.

[HaemishM]

I could see Del Toro doing it, especially after his turn in Sin City and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. He is a chameleon type actor. Spacey would be good, but I like someone who has shown more manic than menace.

The Joker DOES tell jokes, and he wanted to be a stand up comedian. Thus, I can see comedians being cast, especially comedians who aren't known as just "one-liner" types. I would hope that when/if they do the Joker, they don't try to overdo the rubber-faced makeup thing, like in Burton's Batman. I mean, it worked for that movie, but I don't think it'd work for this one.

And if Nolan does decide to do the sequel, I have no doubts about him making the Joker menacing, no matter who they get to play the part. The fact that he made an also-ran like the Scarecrow into a villain with actual menace.

[Sky]

The Joker DOES tell jokes, and he wanted to be a stand up comedian.

"Chillin' with the Jooooker, buuuudy! Let's get some griiiindage!"

Hey, the Weasel wants dearly to be a comedian and he's certainly scary enough.

[Shockeye]

The Joker DOES tell jokes, and he wanted to be a stand up comedian.

"Chillin' with the Jooooker, buuuudy! Let's get some griiiindage!"

Hey, the Weasel wants dearly to be a comedian and he's certainly scary enough.

Plus he can't act worth a crap.

[WayAbvPar]

FWIW, I thought that Cillian Murphy would have been a good Joker. In fact, I thought that was who he was going to end up being when I first saw him onscreen. His cheekbones are perfect for a big ol' Joker smile.

[Fargull]

I still say James Marsters, but for a secondary.

Vincent D'Onofrio would kick seven kinds of ass.

[stray]

Yes he could...Truly the most underappreciated actor around. I mean what the hell, he's working on like the billionth Law and Order spinoff or something now, right? That's a shame.

I don't know James Marsters because I haven't watched Buffy before. But I'm just going to be a shithead and say "Hell no". 

[Ironwood]

Most of these suggestions want to make me scream 'Not Thin Enough!!'

But I've got Bollands Joker in my head.

[stray]

Yeah, I'd agree about physicality being important and all that, but Donofrio is an exception. He can play just about anything.

As far as skinny actors go, I just don't know enough about Adrien Brody to think whether he could do it or not. Everything I've seen him in he's been, he's come off as quiet and inhibited....But he definitely looks the part more than anyone else suggested.

It's a damn a shame that they didn't cast Liotta when he was young though. If anyone here has seen Something Wild, then they'll see what I'm saying. He IS the Joker, trait for trait.

[Llava]

Friend of mine suggested Jude Law.

I think he's too young looking.

[Avatard]

Friend of mine suggested Jude Law.

I think he's too young looking.

But how does his dick measure up?

[Llava]

Friend of mine suggested Jude Law.

I think he's too young looking.

But how does his dick measure up?

Is there a joke there?  Randomly bringing up genetalia isn't, on its own, funny.  Is there some nuance or subtlety to your inquiry that I'm missing?  I mean, feel free to just make joking replies, by all means, but I'm just not seeing the joke here.

[Avatard]

Is there a joke there?  Randomly bringing up genetalia isn't, on its own, funny.  Is there some nuance or subtlety to your inquiry that I'm missing?  I mean, feel free to just make joking replies, by all means, but I'm just not seeing the joke here.

Go see the joke.

[Llava]

Oh.

Okay.

Looked average to me for non-erect, especially considering that has little bearing on its size when erect.  But hey, it's a tabloid that goes around snapping naked pictures of people and claiming it's a celebrity, guess I shouldn't expect much.  <shrug>

(Incoming jokes about how if I think that looks average, then my dick must be small.  Clever!)

[Fargull]

Friend of mine suggested Jude Law.

I think he's too young looking.

Have you seen Road to Perdition.  I think he could do it.  However, I still like Marsters better and Vincent more.

[Ironwood]

I agree.  He was a very well played total Pyscho in RtP and it came across well.  Indeed, the whole 'smile for the camera' thing is something that the Joker himself has done.

However, does he have the energy and mania required ?  I wonder.

[Sky]

The guy who played Agent Smith in the Matrix could pull off a good Joker, I bet.

Or maybe Snoop Dogg.

[Furiously]

Mathew Broderick.

[HaemishM]

The guy who played Agent Smith in the Matrix could pull off a good Joker, I bet.

Or maybe Snoop Dogg.

Your account was hijacked by a studio exec, wasn't it?

[WayAbvPar]

The guy who played Agent Smith in the Matrix could pull off a good Joker, I bet.

Or maybe Snoop Dogg.

Your account was hijacked by a studio exec, wasn't it?

Mocha. In my nose.

[Sky]

C'mon, man. Snoop in a hot purple pinstripe pimpsuit and green dreads? He's the Joker...he's a smoker...

[HaemishM]

He's a midnight toker.

[Llava]

I could see Del Toro doing it

Personally, for Del Toro, I see

[Ironwood]

Ahh, Tommy-Lee Jones.  Another person totally unsuited to a Batman villian.

[Sky]

He's a midnight toker.

I knew you'd buy-in!