WotLK spoilerfication

[Register]

For all of the hunters who aren't happy topping the damage meters, some new pet abilities have been found in the alpha.

- Nether Shock rank 1: 30 focus, 20 yard range, 6 second cooldown. "Instantly lashes an enemy for 17 to 19 Shadow damage. Also interrupts spellcasting and prevents any spell in that school from being cast for 1 sec."

I don't think that hunters will get a pet with earth shock - the nerf cries will be earth-shattering.

[Hutch]

For all of the hunters who aren't happy topping the damage meters, some new pet abilities have been found in the alpha.

- Pin rank 1: 80 Focus, channeled, 20 second cooldown. "Pins the target in place, and squeezes for 20 damage over 12 sec."
- Tendom Rip rank 1: 25 focus, Next melee, 20 second cooldown. "Damages an enemy for 3 to 5 and reduces movement speed by 25% for 8 sec."
- Bad Attitude rank 1: 25 focus, 3 minute cooldown. "Snap back for 5 damage at any target that strikes you for the next 2 min."

These sound like things they could give to my crocolisk pet. (oh please oh please)

However, I agree that immob/slow on a pet will probably not pass muster with the pvp kidz.

I'd just be happy with a focus dump. Maybe take that "smack" power and call it Tail Swipe or something.

[Chimpy]

Tall striders actually are pretty decent for powers at this time now that they got dash. They are decent all around pets having a special ability is nice but there are some pet types that have zip for abilities not even bite and dash.

They are good farming/levelling pets because of their high HP, but their have lower than ave DPS and no focus dump. I think Blizzard is damning us all for my old guild leader putting an ode to the pink tallstrider into Vanguard as a roaming world boss (Deathfang) when he was a content designer for Sigil.

[photek]

The best pets for leveling are Cats or Ravagers. Top damage and Dash. Leveling as BM I would also possibly get a Boar / Bear at higher levels for tanking and just go autoshoot / steady shot, no needing for mend pet at higher levels as mobs wont scratch them and you can go on 24/7.

[Simond]

Back to WotLK spoilers, latest alpha patch apparently went live (according to the usual sources) and has a bunch of spell & talent changes, Stormwind harbour about 90% complete, new zep towers outside Org/UC...and a new deathknight mount.

[Fordel]

Shaman and Rogue Talents are up.

http://wotlk.wikidot.com/


Healfury ftw?

[Fabricated]

No way, those rogue talents are a ton of horseshit. Holy fuck are those way way way overpowered.

[Ironwood]

Um.  Not so much.

I'd be happy to discuss your views tho !

[Merusk]

Nice abilities for the rogues there.  They sound pretty damn cool, if real. Makes me wonder what the other classes will get.

[Ironwood]

Most of them are already up.  Eagerly awaiting Hunter stuff tho.

[Merusk]

Meh.. Hunter stuff will be craptacular as always.  I expect nothing like cool like "<type> arrow" or insta pet rez, or multiple-pets but instead more shot rotations centered around the easily balanced Steady Shot and a nerf to beast mastery to make Marks look more appealing.  They still won't have clue one for making Survival = to the other two for pvp or pve, or give hunters a REALLY good reason to be taken over another DPS class. 

I've given up on my Alliance hunter, quit my raiding guild and moved to Horde-side on Zul'jin.  Got my warlock up to 53 in the last 3 weeks.    10-man 'everything' in WOTLK means no more dealing with the added 40+ asshats needed to keep running 25-mans regularly.

I DO miss my epics and my 10k gold stash, though.

[lesion]

I can't look at the rogue talents again because I will wet myself with the power of ten storm drains.

[Merusk]

Is the talent site back up?  It was down this morning when I tried to look.

[Fordel]

Still down as far as I can see.

[lesion]

That is another reason why I can't look at rogue talents again. My pants remain safe...for now.

[Fordel]

Shadow Dance, I'm not sure HOW its overpowered, but I know it is   

[Merusk]

Shadow dance only lasts 9 secs and the stealth pop is every 3s, so its not too horrible.  The changes seem aimed at giving rogues a strong chance against warriors though, so once more the question becomes, "what counters a rogue?"  Is Blizzard abandoning RPS-style pvp design finallly, or is another class being buffed up to be the anti-rogue since supported warriors are nearly the anti-everything.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Shadow dance only lasts 9 secs and the stealth pop is every 3s, so its not too horrible.  The changes seem aimed at giving rogues a strong chance against warriors though, so once more the question becomes, "what counters a rogue?"  Is Blizzard abandoning RPS-style pvp design finallly, or is another class being buffed up to be the anti-rogue since supported warriors are nearly the anti-everything.

i could be wrong but i would guess that the "return to stealth" will also add a cloak of shadows style debuff wipe with every time it ticks

[Ragnoros]

Words can not express my love for the new talent Murder Spree.

I'm sorry but the Rogue talents blow the Warrior talents OUT OF THE FUCKING WATER.

Might have to finally get my rogue to 70. They have so much more control over a fight. Warriors are just spamstring and pray for crits.

[lamaros]

All this wotlk info chasing has had a bad side for me, my acc got hacked last night.

Thankfully the response from Blizzard has been excellent. I reported it only a couple of hours ago and already most/all of the items have been restored to me. The only thing I'm waiting on now is some gold.

[Xeyi]

All this wotlk info chasing has had a bad side for me, my acc got hacked last night.

Thankfully the response from Blizzard has been excellent. I reported it only a couple of hours ago and already most/all of the items have been restored to me. The only thing I'm waiting on now is some gold.

That does seem amazingly fast, hopefully it's an indicator that they've got their act together in this area rather than it being a one off.  Some of my guildmates have had to wait weeks to get items back in the past.

[Fabricated]

All this wotlk info chasing has had a bad side for me, my acc got hacked last night.

Thankfully the response from Blizzard has been excellent. I reported it only a couple of hours ago and already most/all of the items have been restored to me. The only thing I'm waiting on now is some gold.

What the hell were you doing? Stop using IE, or start using noscript or adblock+ in Firefox. Or use Opera since no one knows it exists. :P

[Fordel]

Opera is when the fat Italian starts singing, rite? 

[Triforcer]

Just curious...why is it ok to post WOTLK alpha skills and discuss it, but bad to do the same with WAR?  Or are they actually releasing this alpha info?

[schild]

Just curious...why is it ok to post WOTLK alpha skills and discuss it, but bad to do the same with WAR?  Or are they actually releasing this alpha info?

This is a bad question.

[lamaros]

What the hell were you doing? Stop using IE, or start using noscript or adblock+ in Firefox. Or use Opera since no one knows it exists. :P

I use firefox. It might have been the flash thing that got me. I dunno.

[Simond]

Just curious...why is it ok to post WOTLK alpha skills and discuss it, but bad to do the same with WAR?  Or are they actually releasing this alpha info?

Because Blizzard hasn't stomped the hell out of the WotLK alpha wiki yet, so Blizzard probably doesn't mind that much if its being leaked (especially as a spoiler for AoC). I'd imagine once that wiki gets the Blactivizzard lawyers sicced onto it,  will return in full force.

[Lakov_Sanite]

What the hell were you doing? Stop using IE, or start using noscript or adblock+ in Firefox. Or use Opera since no one knows it exists. :P

I use firefox. It might have been the flash thing that got me. I dunno.

Let's not kid ourselves, it was the asian hermaphroditic porn you were surfing.

[Azazel]

Back to WotLK spoilers, latest alpha patch apparently went live (according to the usual sources) and has a bunch of spell & talent changes, Stormwind harbour about 90% complete, new zep towers outside Org/UC...and a new deathknight mount.

Stormwind Harbour - linked to the city proper? And where?

[Fordel]

The Harbor entrance is between the Holy District and the Park District. You follow down a few ramps to reach the shoreline.


http://wotlk.wikidot.com/images some pics there, isn't complete yet.

[Register]

Words can not express my love for the new talent Murder Spree.

I'm sorry but the Rogue talents blow the Warrior talents OUT OF THE FUCKING WATER.

Might have to finally get my rogue to 70. They have so much more control over a fight. Warriors are just spamstring and pray for crits.

Check out:
Sudden Death (new) - Your melee critical hits have a 10%/20/30% chance of allowing the use of Execute regardless of the target's health state.

Can imagine the screenshots, 3k MS, 2K white melee then 10K execute for death in 2 seconds - you dont want to be anywhere near a warrior with full rage bar...

[Fordel]

Unless you're a combat rogue

Name: Stay of Execution
Description: When you have less than 35% health, all damage taken is reduced by -15% and you are treated as if you are at full health.

 

[Register]

Unless you're a combat rogue

Name: Stay of Execution
Description: When you have less than 35% health, all damage taken is reduced by -15% and you are treated as if you are at full health.

 

Actually, I see Sudden Death as the counter to Stay of execution - with the Sudden Death proc you can execute regardless of the target's current health.

i.e.
Sudden Death (new) - Your melee critical hits have a 10%/20/30% chance of allowing the use of Execute regardless of the target's health state.

[Ironwood]

I think we can all agree that there's going to be blood by the bucketload.

Which is awesome.

[K9]

I think we can all agree that there's going to be blood by the bucketload.

Which is awesome.

Holy Priest blood by the looks of things, although the PvE talents are looking pretty good for healing. I haven't been shadow in ages but their talents seem decent, not quite as exciting as everyone else's though I'd say.