Malakili
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I don't really care how "dark" the movie is either way, but I do worry about reshoots of this type because you can end up with a movie that is tonally inconsistent, which has the potential to be pretty bad (see also: the most recent Fantastic Four).
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Furiously
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That and it's Disney so they're likely aiming for PG/ soft PG-13. The darkest movie has been Revenge of the Sith, and nothing is going to be darker than that with the slaughter of first graders and the onscreen murder of a 15/ 16 year-old. The Vader scene was described as "very dark and brutal" more befitting a hard PG-13 into R movie. No way that was going to fly. That said, yeah, there's reshoots. No big surprise, as has been pointed out with other movies they reshoot/ re-edit almost up until the day of release now. Think of it as Day-0 patches for games. Digital distribution has altered workflows such that deadlines are closer to release dates now. Humanity generally works to deadlines, we're short-sighted that way. When you have reshoots and a director saying he's never going to do a large movie again, it generally means bad things for the audience.
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Sir T
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But at least the picture shows that we will still have the most important element in all of star wars LENS FARES WILL BE IN THE MOVIE!! YAAAAAAAY!!!
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Margalis
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These days the media has a lot more knowledge of what is happening in film (and other mediums) and how the sausage is made, and can blow 'production problems' way out of proportion. To use a game example, there were constant reports of major production problems on Red Dead Redemption, but the game turned out good/great. I think it's a mistake to assume that reports of production problems, reshoots, etc, indicates real problems. Sometimes they do, but a lot of the time those sorts of issues are just part of the process. Again, to talk about games, I get annoyed when I read reports like "just 3 months from release X game was a total mess!" It sounds damning but that's just how game production often works. Being bad a few months before release isn't too indicative of anything. (Or, at least, certain types of bad aren't indicative of anything) Mad Max: Fury Road had huge production problems. It sounds like the movie isn't want they want tonally. It's not coming out until Christmas (?). Sounds like much ado about nothing to me. They aren't even in the test screening phase yet. Reshoot time! Sounds like test audiences didn't like the movie.
These aren't test audiences watching the movie, it's execs watching a rough cut. The difference being that test audiences come later in the process, and impose more of a time constraint on changes. To me this sounds like the system working. They filmed some stuff, now they're tweaking it. It will probably be pretty good when it is released (pretty good for a SW film anyway) and if we didn't know about the problems would be none the wiser.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Mac
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I read the words 'Young Han Solo Cameo" and now I am no longer interested in watching this.
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Thrawn
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I read the words 'Young Han Solo Cameo" and now I am no longer interested in watching this.
Yep.
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eldaec
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I read the words 'Young Han Solo Cameo" and now I am no longer interested in watching this.
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eldaec
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What I really don't get... surely the only people who give a shit about Han Solo are the people who would hate the idea of putting him in any more films?
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Evildrider
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What I really don't get... surely the only people who give a shit about Han Solo are the people who would hate the idea of putting him in any more films?
It's probably a tie in to the Han Solo movie. I don't know what people expected from Star Wars once they said they were going to be movies spread out along the timeline. Hell there is talk of a young Yoda movie.
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eldaec
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Young Yoda I have no issue with.
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Margalis
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Isn't this movie set right before ep IV? Why would Han Solo even be young in it?
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Ruvaldt
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Isn't this movie set right before ep IV? Why would Han Solo even be young in it?
Because he was pretty young in ep IV? Harrison Ford was 35 in that movie. Plus, the last time we saw Han Solo he was in his 70s so...young is a pretty good descriptor if it takes place before ep IV. He'll be the youngest that he's ever been depicted in film.
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Shannow
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I like it.
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Soln
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the opportunity for evil is just delicious
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Yup yup yup
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Abagadro
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Oh hell's ya. They even HK-47'd up the protocol droid.
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Sky
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I'm glad I lived to see Star Wars ripped from Lucas' shithold.
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Furiously
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That trailer looked a lot more interesting.
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Lucas
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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.
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Oh yes, big stamp of approval
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Trippy
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Looking more like The Dirty Dozen in SPPPAACCEEE which is good IMO.
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Megrim
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I still don't see any Bothans.
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Bothans were the second death star. Haven't we already covered that?
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Megrim
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Bothans were the second death star. Haven't we already covered that?
Oh right, yea. Shows how much of a shit I give. Pew pew, lasers, stern asian men.
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eldaec
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Anyway, for all you know the entire cast are Bothan.
The furry assumption has no basis in canon iirc.
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Bunk
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I thought we'd established that the plans were stolen by a brave Corellian freedom fighter named Manny Bothans?
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I think I'm mostly upset that they're not sticking with the plot of the first mission of Star Wars: Dark Forces.
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Raph
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Anyway, for all you know the entire cast are Bothan.
The furry assumption has no basis in canon iirc.
It used to, but doesn't as of the retcon. Trivia: the SWG Bothans were actually the official EU definition, that was the first time they'd been worked out in that much detail, and it was made official then.
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Draegan
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Not any more.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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Megrim
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The bit with the stormtroopers wading along the beach, could be straight out of a Seth Rogen movie. I would watch this movie with that music.
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Venkman
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Japanese trailer. Mostly the same. Except where it's not. And there's an interesting reveal in the not.
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