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Reply #70 on: July 31, 2015, 12:31:41 PM


If I read that right, as well as telling you how to stop torrenting patches, the MS link in that also tells you how to turn off auto update if you want. Just set your internet connection to 'metered connection' and you're good.

This might be bloodworth news idk.
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Reply #71 on: July 31, 2015, 12:46:45 PM

You know, I have heard about this a lot. Is this just an issue of the code not containing a line to auto-reboot? I would be very skittish about rebooting as the install was running since that type of behavior is usually a no-no.

Fortunately, this is a test machine and I've got Windows 7 restore disks out the ass here.  If I accidentally brick it, it's lived a good life and I'll remember it fondly.
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Reply #72 on: July 31, 2015, 04:50:47 PM

I just manually updated to win 10 and it took me about 30 minutes. Strange...

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Reply #73 on: August 01, 2015, 06:22:51 AM

As a gamer my number one concern is that Windows 10 won't work well with some of my favorite games, including some MMOs I play. Have any of you had a chance to try gaming on it?

Windows 10 Games Compatibility List.

Edit: I have extensively checked the list for all of the games I play and I think I'm good to go.

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Reply #74 on: August 01, 2015, 10:06:52 AM

Btw, snapping to quadrants is fucking great.

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Reply #75 on: August 01, 2015, 03:45:12 PM

Huh. I didn't know about Windows + Left/Right Arrow. That's going to make things a lot easier on this ultra-wide.

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Reply #76 on: August 01, 2015, 04:36:15 PM

Going from win 7 to win 10 for free and it only took a couple minutes of giving a crap...Props to Microsoft on this one.
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Reply #77 on: August 01, 2015, 05:04:27 PM

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Reply #78 on: August 01, 2015, 05:41:30 PM

Can't wait for it to come out that Win10 is just a reskinned 7.  why so serious?

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Reply #79 on: August 01, 2015, 06:08:01 PM

If you didn't dig through 13 screens of privacy options, by default Windows 10 will apparently send every keystroke, every website, and all app usage data to Microsoft. Oh, and your location data, everything you say or write with an input device, and device details (software/hardware) and usage. It also assigns a unique ID to your device and user which is shared with advertisers, and shows ads in the start menu if not elsewhere too. Some of these things you cannot disable except in the Enterprise edition.

Amusingly enough, these things are much more invasive than what they accused Google of doing in their "Scroogle" ad campaign.

ExtremeTech article has details about the new anti-privacy defaults, along with a link to more screenshots. Or use your favorite search engineBing only to find more.
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Reply #80 on: August 01, 2015, 08:14:18 PM

They were also defaulted to "off" for the most part if you hit "customize my install" vs. being click-happy.

Finally got the upgrade done today. Aside from a few issues with drivers (yay Nvidia) and games (wtf Marvel heroes) it's been smooth.

I love the ability to have different backgrounds on each monitor.  The UI looks a lot crisper than it did in 7, even on the old monitor that's dying.

The OS starts up like a dog, though. I thought it was supposed to be faster, but it seems to be going slower than before. Any idea how to do a clean install since you don't get a key when you upgrade.

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Reply #81 on: August 01, 2015, 08:19:50 PM

What problems did you have with Marvel Heroes? Driver issues? I haven't played for any marathon sessions yet but I've run a few instances and it was fine for me.


There's a option to do a clean install in the settings. Just ask Cortana for Recovery settings and it should bring up the section. I have no idea how it works though, so maybe it's not what you need.

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Reply #82 on: August 01, 2015, 08:30:42 PM

My understanding is once you upgrade successfully to windows 10 and it shows as activated Microsoft stores a unique hash identifier of your system setup. So the hardware should stay activated if you ever need to reinstall. How that works in practice once you swap something I have no clue.

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-make-sure-your-free-copy-windows-10-activated

So theoretically you should be able to do a complete reinstall using the installer I linked above since you already upgraded without any issues.
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Reply #83 on: August 01, 2015, 09:42:55 PM

What problems did you have with Marvel Heroes? Driver issues? I haven't played for any marathon sessions yet but I've run a few instances and it was fine for me.


There's a option to do a clean install in the settings. Just ask Cortana for Recovery settings and it should bring up the section. I have no idea how it works though, so maybe it's not what you need.

Looks like it was two things. One, the patcher .exe requires you to flag it "run as admin." which is weird.  Two I had a corrupted patch install and kept getting the metafile error. Uninstall/ reinstall fixed that. Still needs to be run as admin.

My understanding is once you upgrade successfully to windows 10 and it shows as activated Microsoft stores a unique hash identifier of your system setup. So the hardware should stay activated if you ever need to reinstall. How that works in practice once you swap something I have no clue.

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-make-sure-your-free-copy-windows-10-activated

So theoretically you should be able to do a complete reinstall using the installer I linked above since you already upgraded without any issues.

Cool, thanks. I'm going to be swapping so my smaller SSD is the primary drive and couldn't prior to upgrade because it needed a key.  Lots of "should" in that article, though. I might just give it a shot without wiping out the install currently on my physical drive.

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Reply #84 on: August 01, 2015, 10:21:27 PM

Ahh the infamous meta file error. I see that one A LOT on the forums. Do you use the stand alone patcher or steam?

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Reply #85 on: August 02, 2015, 04:24:58 PM

I don't get having to install directx9 on a directx12 thingie... Seems like they should package all the shit everything needs with the system. VC++ stuff also needed to get downloaded.

Biggest pain was getting Nvidia drivers to work. Still not sure I have all my system devices working.

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Reply #86 on: August 03, 2015, 01:16:22 PM

You can put DX9 back on Win10?

I've had to change FFXIV to DX11 and for some reason that doesn't alt tab very well with my system.  It just shoots into this windowed mode instead of tabbing into another program.  Annoying as hell, but I can live with it.

Before Win10 it'd being in DX11 mode would just make the game completely unstable and alt tab would lock it up.   Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #87 on: August 03, 2015, 01:43:02 PM

I did register for the update but this thread isn't selling me on it.

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Reply #88 on: August 03, 2015, 02:17:56 PM

I upgraded at home and like it a lot now that I've got it going. Machine is definitely acting better now that I've got it cleaned-up a bit.

If you've got a 2nd device like a laptop, upgrade that then decide if you like it. I had an advantage in that I could test it on my work surface 3 first.

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Reply #89 on: August 03, 2015, 02:18:25 PM

They also didn't have the theme I was using for Windows 7.

 Tantrum

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Reply #90 on: August 03, 2015, 02:43:04 PM

After upgrading had some severe lag/response issues trying to play FM 15 but updated my Nvidia driver to a win 10 version and that fixed it. That was the only game I tried without upgrading my driver. No other issues so far and definitely loads things faster. Also upgraded my wife's low end cheap laptop from 8.1. This was the one I was most worried about having issues with but it actually runs noticeably better too. Overall I like it.
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Reply #91 on: August 03, 2015, 07:08:00 PM

Also upgraded my wife's low end cheap laptop from 8.1. This was the one I was most worried about having issues with but it actually runs noticeably better too. Overall I like it.

This was my big concern, and like you, our low end notebook on 8.1 is performing noticeably better.

I can't recommend the upgrade for all yet, but between the performance increase and the reduced navigation confusion, this has been positive so far.
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Reply #92 on: August 04, 2015, 05:22:35 AM

Took me about an hour to upgrade on my main PC. Only real problem so far is that my old monitor calibration device and the associated software don't seem to be working properly any more. That's quite a major problem for me unfortunately and since my calibrator is a discontinued product I suspect I'm just going to have to shell out for a new one.

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Reply #93 on: August 04, 2015, 08:43:11 AM

Oddly enough Chrome has been quite annoying since upgrading to Windows 10.  All plugins I had (flashblock, adblock, lastpass) had major rendering problems making them useless or very close to useless.  I got annoyed and switched to Firefox, but then got annoyed at how slow it is.  I then got annoyed that Edge doesn't allow plugins, which makes it useless to me.

I then uninstalled chrome and reinstalled it, and now Chrome is working well again (except for being extremely (extreeemmelllyyy) annoying recently about bad ssl certificates on localhost).

So, if you are having trouble with Chrome, might be good to reinstall it.
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Reply #94 on: August 04, 2015, 09:17:00 AM

I then got annoyed that Edge doesn't allow plugins, which makes it useless to me.

This. I mean really in this day and age, wtf is Microsoft doing? Explorer is a joke and they go and fuck up the next generation of their browser right out of the box.

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Reply #95 on: August 04, 2015, 09:17:45 AM

Microsoft. Internet browser. How could you expect them to do anything BUT fuck it up?

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Reply #96 on: August 04, 2015, 09:44:37 AM

For what it's worth they've said all along the first version wasn't going to have plugin support but that's the highest priority once it ships.   And honestly, Edge feels pretty good so far outside of no plugin support. 

Apparently Windows 10 wasn't supposed to ship until October originally, but then they decided to push it up to July to meet back to school leaving all hardware vendors (including their own Surface team) screwed.  That's why hololens was originally said to be "in the Windows 10 timeframe" and they mentioned a few times about Windows 10 launching with unique PC builds that take advantage of the new Windows 10 features that apparently has yet to materialize.
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Reply #97 on: August 04, 2015, 12:52:08 PM

Upgraded my arcade cab. Causes the front-end to crash when the screensaver turned on... so I just turned it off (the screen turns off after a little while anyway). Also had an issue with the desktop background randomly turning into mush, hasn't happened since I made the above fix.

So far the biggest annoyance is that Settings and Control Panel are both there, and are duplicative, and not 100% overlap. There's stuff you can only change in one or the other. For example, adding and removing programs via one or the other will show different lists (!).
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Reply #98 on: August 04, 2015, 03:23:14 PM

Pretty typical windows stuff.

Incidentally I bet progman (which is from windows 3.1) is still present in some form too.

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Reply #99 on: August 04, 2015, 10:50:25 PM

You can't change the download directory on edge....

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Reply #100 on: August 05, 2015, 07:38:10 AM

I'll never quite understand why they put out new apps that don't have basic functionality of past ones. Had to reassociate all my picture file types to the Windows 7 picture viewer. The new Photo app works great at first glance: reads my Canon RAWs automatically, responds quite well. Then I noticed if I'm scrolling through a folder and get to the end, it just stops, doesn't wrap around. Minor but annoying. Then I tried to open a picture to edit it...

No fricking right-click menu functionality. None. Wtf?

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Reply #101 on: August 05, 2015, 08:47:45 AM

No fricking right-click menu functionality. None. Wtf?

It's in the miracle patch.  why so serious?

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Reply #102 on: August 05, 2015, 09:04:59 AM

Having some more teething troubles. My tablet (a cheapo Linx 8) updated to win 10 fine, although it's a bit sluggish in use. To be fair it was sluggish with win 8.1 too. Anyway, the auto-rotate doesn't work any more, which is highly annoying. The searching I've done suggests it's a graphics driver problem, so I'll have to wait for Intel to sort it out.

Also, I use WMP to stream music to a network media player in the kitchen. Since installing Win 10 it lists all tracks in albums alphabetically rather than bu track number. It's OK on the desktop, it's just the streaming that's fuct.

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Reply #103 on: August 05, 2015, 09:24:25 AM

Past two days I am getting a weird reboot error. I set Windows to sleep after 1 hour and turn the monitor off after 30 minutes. It works 80% of the time. The other times, I hit my spacebar or click my mouse to wake it up just like I always do but it just stays in sleep mode. I have LEDs in my mouse that flicker when I click it so I know the mouse clicks are working to send a signal. I have to hit the reset button on the box to get anything to reboot which then boots, bios screen, windows loading screen, reboot by to bios screen, windows loading, logon screen. When I get to the desktop, my icons are all back to default positions.

It is not consistent so I have no idea what is tripping it up. For now, I am manually sleeping it which doesn't seem to error out.

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Reply #104 on: August 06, 2015, 01:39:48 PM

Edge is being a dick.  It will close itself when I click on different tabs.  First time, you can reopen it with the tabs remembered, second time you can go screw yourself because it's closing your shit.

This is really, really annoying.

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