Crowfall aka Play2Crush aka Shadowbane II aka Nostalgia Online

[KallDrexx]

My point was that the idea that was floated of having an mmo where the sole progression is akin to what people think of as attunement (using Zelda as an example) is a terrible idea that has many examples for why it will fall.

Leveling as a form of attunement can be debated, but it is irellevant to this discussion because it's not what people think of as attunement, and perception is everything.

[Bzalthek]

I'm ready for an MMO that just trolls the user base.  No levels, just periodic stat increases that are accompanied by a level up sound.  The numbers are hidden, no one knows how much a stat increases certain skills, and even if you parse that shit, each point in a stat yields different gains.  Even better, make the gain RNG.  You can even subdivide and micromanage skills.  Put a point into fireball?  Ok, you did that 10 times already?  Now you have to put points into fireball range, fireball diameter, fireball damage.  Ow, I think I just got cancer.

[HaemishM]

I would posit that the entirety of MMO development has been one long collective troll, but really it's just a litany of incompetence.

[angry.bob]

Now you have to put points into fireball range, fireball diameter, fireball damage.  Ow, I think I just got cancer.

If you're implying that reaching level 100 out of 100 and a bunch of people wouldn't have put all points into fireball attributes to have one, awesome spell you're crazy. Of course it would have to be designed in such a way that the blast diameter is larger than the range unless people dump tons of points into range.

[Paelos]

The ultimate troll would be that a completely maxxed out fireball spell that takes 2,000 hours to achieve actually has a blast radius so big it kills you on cast.

[Bzalthek]

Yeah, but that other guy put all his points into fire resistance!

[Samprimary]

The ultimate troll would be that a completely maxxed out fireball spell that takes 2,000 hours to achieve actually has a blast radius so big it kills you on cast.

A faction in the game is grinding out a single player to be their Big Bertha from Total Annihilation.

The enemy factions essentially have to destroy this character before he comes online and can begin shelling them from across the world map, or they will lose.

[Teleku]

I would play this hypothetical game you guys are designing.

[Paelos]

Meanwhile, you start with only one zone. You have to unlock other zones through a bunch of collection quests against other servers, and a raid event that will crash the server every time you start it.

The server that comes in last gets erased.

[Bzalthek]

I need 5 more points in poison resistance before I can go into the new zone without taking constant damage every tick from the atmosphere!

[schild]

Crowfall, because that's what they've been eating for a decade. Never has there been a more fitting name.

I would like all old people to immediately stop. What you ask? Everything.

[Nebu]

I would like all old people to immediately stop. What you ask? Everything.

No cancer meds for you!   

[WayAbvPar]

I would like all old people to immediately stop. What you ask? Everything.

No cancer meds for you!   

Meds are the problem. Give us the cure, you bastards!

The recent story about being able to track mDNA being transmitted cell to cell was pretty interesting...I wonder if that will be the key.

[Threash]

Hey look, an actual screenshot

[Gimfain]

City siege Concept

[sam, an eggplant]

I'm stag-man, all the way.

All these years and nobody thought to anthropomorphize deer in a RPG! It's a brave new world opening in front of us, gentlemen.

(Asian furgames do not count, please do not post counterexamples.)

[Tmon]

I see they have a hunger resistance stat, which implies that you'll have to spend time keeping yourself fed.  I can't see that being fun, but then I don't think I'm their target audience.

[sam, an eggplant]

It's a hint, they got the IP and are pivoting to make a Hunger Games MMORPG. Combat is deemphasized in favor of brooding, depression, high fashion, heavy-handed references to the French revolution, and romantic love triangles.

[Threash]

I want to be whatever the fat animal the sword is covering is.

[Hutch]

I see they have a hunger resistance stat, which implies that you'll have to spend time keeping yourself fed.  I can't see that being fun, but then I don't think I'm their target audience.

It depends. If you can buy food from a vendor, it's little more than a gold sink. If you have to farm and craft your food (or pay someone to do it) then it becomes a chore.

[Paelos]

I want to be whatever the fat animal the sword is covering is.

My guess is goat.

[Hutch]

Minotaur.

[Paelos]

I would prefer it be a turkey. A race of turkeys hasn't been done yet in a game has it?

[WayAbvPar]

Civ V has the Ottoman Empire.

[Paelos]

Civ V has the Ottoman Empire.

OH HO HO

[Ingmar]

I'm stag-man, all the way.

All these years and nobody thought to anthropomorphize deer in a RPG! It's a brave new world opening in front of us, gentlemen.

(Asian furgames do not count, please do not post counterexamples.)

DAOC did it first again. 

[Nevermore]

I'm ready for an MMO that just trolls the user base.  No levels, just periodic stat increases that are accompanied by a level up sound.  The numbers are hidden, no one knows how much a stat increases certain skills, and even if you parse that shit, each point in a stat yields different gains.  Even better, make the gain RNG.  You can even subdivide and micromanage skills.  Put a point into fireball?  Ok, you did that 10 times already?  Now you have to put points into fireball range, fireball diameter, fireball damage.  Ow, I think I just got cancer.

So Eve Online? 

[Bzalthek]

...

So Eve Online? 

Not quite.  I'm still convinced Eve Online is just a ploy by HR Block to farm out tax return filing.

[sam, an eggplant]

The best part of EVE online is reading the awesome stories about the intrigue, betrayal, and in-game drama it generates.

The worst part of EVE online is playing EVE online.

[Falconeer]

Hey look, an actual screenshot

Fuck that style. They probably found the only way to drive me off a hardcore PvP MMO.

[WayAbvPar]

Hey look, an actual screenshot

Fuck that style. They probably found the only way to drive me off a hardcore PvP MMO.

Agreed. That looks like Skylanders: The MMOG. My 6 year old would love it.

[Malakili]

Hey look, an actual screenshot

Fuck that style. They probably found the only way to drive me off a hardcore PvP MMO.

I'm actually quite the opposite.  That route tells me they aren't so wedded to "realism" that can't be achieved with a low budget anyway that they could actually have some sense as a development team.

Or maybe the game will just suck either way.  Yeah, it's probably this one.  I can't see a game called Crowfall doing well.

[Fordel]

I'm stag-man, all the way.

All these years and nobody thought to anthropomorphize deer in a RPG! It's a brave new world opening in front of us, gentlemen.

(Asian furgames do not count, please do not post counterexamples.)

DAOC did it first again. 

I like the art style just fine from the actual game.

[Threash]

I don't see anything wrong with their art style, it tells me they are planning for having tons of characters on screen while still having a pleasant style.

[Falconeer]

It's not wrong or right, it's a matter of personal taste. I *personally* DETEST & DESPISE what in the western hemisphere seems to be known as "cartoon style".