Chris Roberts Back in your wallet - STAR CITIZEN

[HaemishM]

The answer, obviously, is WUB WUB BWWWOOOOOOOOOWWWWW. 

[Mrbloodworth]

I haven't been following the in-game videos well enough to be able to make an educated guess -- is any of that video in-game footage?

(In-engine is not the same as in-game and you know it.)

It's all real time, not pre-renderd, using in game assets ( as they are currently ). Only parts are from whats in the current client, much of it is from various videos available, many of them, being live real time demos for various conventions.

This below, is 100% in engine, in game, live game-play from a build not available to users ATM ( Also feature multi-users ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-xvCg8CI9U

LevelCapGaming has quite a few videos on the subject, his "Star Citizen Arena Commander - Shut Up And Take My Money! " is all "in game" footage as you define it. Recorded himself, just an older version.

Then there is this: https://player.vimeo.com/video/97280931?autoplay=1

[Soulflame]

All I need to know is Mr B is backing this horse.

Full ahead to fail it is, then.

[Samwise]

I haven't been following the in-game videos well enough to be able to make an educated guess -- is any of that video in-game footage?

(In-engine is not the same as in-game and you know it.)

It's all real time, not pre-renderd, using in game assets ( as they are currently ).

Evidently not.   

[Ginaz]

Star Citizen poster deciding whether or not it should volunteer for some sort of Swedish "sexism rating".  Maybe add it as another stretch goal, at $80 million the game becomes gender neutral and free of revealing female space suits.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/202184/star-citizen-should-be-the-first-game-to-volunteer-for-a-sexism-rating

[schild]

Sexism rating? Gtfo.

no

fuck

[Lantyssa]

A what!?

[ezrast]

I'm a big fan of going on gender-equality-related derails in threads that serve no other appreciable purpose, and even I can't find any fucks to give.

[calapine]

A what!?

Sweden mulls 'sexist' video game labels

Future video games produced in Sweden could be labelled according to whether or not they promote gender equality, as part of a new project by gaming industry trade organisation Dataspelsbranchen.


Speaking to The Local, project manager Anton Albiin said it was unclear at this stage if all games produced in Sweden would be given a label, or if companies developing games that promoted equality would be given some kind of certification to use for their own marketing purposes.

He said that as well as analysing the content of the games, Dataspelsbranchen would also look at the processes used by different developers to promote gender equality and diversity, with a view to "helping others to learn from their innovation".

 

[schild]

That is stupid.

[rk47]

It begins.

[calapine]

That is stupid.

Yes, it is. Swedish friend of mine (himself not any right-wing or conservative) says part of the political establishment/discourse are almost comically PC. I should ask  for some examples and then post them in a more appropriate thread.

[Margalis]

I pledge to only buy games rated moderately sexist to extremely sexist.

[schild]

Tumblr Politics.

Tumblr Politik?

Not German, but as dumb as the shit they deal with.

[jakonovski]

Well to be fair you can't get more equal opportunity than taking the money and never delivering.

[Falconeer]

2013:

Swedish cinemas to stamp out sexism with Bechdel test rating on movies

Mind, it doesn't say that the movie is bad or that you shouldn't watch it. Some of the proponents pointed out that plenty of their favourite movies would not "pass" the test and that's fine. The rating simply informs vewers on what to expect when it comes to gender representation, in the long run inevitably pointing out the imbalance.

[Sir T]

"Why be biased? Hell, the sexes are equal with their erogenous zones blown sky high!" Batman returns.

[jakonovski]

To put my serious hat on: while Bechdel and such are fine, they are tools of movie critique, not warning labels. Implementing things of that nature alongside existing content ratings is problematic, because those ratings draw their influence and/or power from child protection legislation. In some countries they're enforced. In Finland for example giving a PEGI 18 game to a minor is a crime comparable to giving them alcohol or cigarettes.

  

[Kitsune]

The bechdel test is retarded.  I propose a new and better test.

The Kitsune Test

Is a woman:

1. A main character.
2. Badass.

2 is invalidated if the woman is only temporarily a badass in a transparent attempt to give her parity with a male character.

Ellen Ripley does not need to talk to a woman to be a fantastic role model.  Neither does Sarah Connor.  Nor Claire Underwood (while I wouldn't present her as a role model unless it's a role model for evil, nobody can claim that she's anything but terrifyingly strong.)

[rk47]

I don't like playing a woman. It's distracting.

[Margalis]

To put my serious hat on: while Bechdel and such are fine, they are tools of movie critique, not warning labels.

The strength of the Bechdel test is also only apparent when applied to movies statistically, not individual movies. Saying "the majority of movies don't have 2 female characters talking to each other not about men" is somewhat damning. Saying that specifically The Thing doesn't pass the test is idiotic.

[Kail]

It makes even less sense in games, given how little actual dialogue of any kind there is.  Maybe you could kind of shoehorn it in for "Cinematic Experience" games like The Last Of Us or Metal Gear Solid, but even there there it's more a question of "is the main character of this game a female" because like 98% of the dialogue is aimed at that character.  It makes no sense at all in games where you can choose the gender of characters (most RPGs) or dialogue isn't really a thing (like most platformers) or gender isn't really a thing (puzzle games) or dialogue isn't a static asset (multiplayer games).

[KallDrexx]

Everyone knows bejeweleed is sexist

[Venkman]

Wait, what the hell? Two woman talking to each other about something other than a man? THAT'S the test, some stupid thing that would take all of an extra day of shooting to dodge? stupid test that takes all of an extra day of shooting to dodge??

Not, objectified women's bodies in skimpy clothing claimed to have the same armor rating as full plate warn bir Sir Chiseljaw? Not softporn focusing on tittilating T&A? Not damsel in distress/waiting for shining armor? Not macho dude doing everything while the woman stays safely behind the tree?

[ezrast]

THAT'S the test, some stupid thing that would take all of an extra day of shooting to dodge?

That's the entire point of the Bechdel test. It's not meant to be used as an actual tool of critique for individual movies. It's meant as indictment of the industry as a whole, by intentionally setting the bar as low as possible and then seeing how many movies still fail to clear it. It's a metric, not a standard. What the people in the above links are doing, treating it as a standard rather than a metric, is a fundamental misunderstanding.

(actually, the test was originally meant only to set up the punchline for a goofy comic strip from the '80s - Bechdel was a cartoonist, not a critic. The whole thing is basically a meme that went viral and should be treated with tongue firmly in cheek)

[Venkman]

Right, that part I get.

But how does that gag get written as the main measure of some country's law?

Wait, actually, I know exactly how that happens. But this is the wrong sub-forum 

[jakonovski]

Going back on topic, it's the Star Citizen Anniversary Sale! Buy now to commemorate the game not being out yet! New ship that doesn't exist for only $345!

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14314-Star-Citizen-Anniversary-Sale

[Sophismata]

Everyone knows bejeweleed is sexist

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2013/05/08/the-rules

[Malakili]

Going back on topic, it's the Star Citizen Anniversary Sale! Buy now to commemorate the game not being out yet! New ship that doesn't exist for only $345!

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14314-Star-Citizen-Anniversary-Sale

You buried the lead.  You didn't mention the new Capital Ship that is going to be on sale for a mere $2,500 in limited quantity.  What a deal!

Edit for quote:

In addition to the limited ships above, we will also be offering limited allotments of a brand new Star Citizen capital ship! Friday, November 28th will see the launch of the largest capital ship we will make available to players during the pledge campaign: the Javelin destroyer. 200 Javelins will be sold for $2,500 each, with allotments being released at 6 AM, noon, 6 PM and midnight Pacific time. You’ll learn a lot more about the Javelin on Friday, but it’s important to note that this isn’t the ultimate battleship for players who can afford it: Javelins will be sold stripped of military hardware, and it will be a new starting challenge for players to work together with their organizations to outfit them. The Javelin comes with LTI.

But that’s not all! We’re making the Javelin available for hardcore players who are dedicated to supporting Star Citizen… and we’re using the opportunity to allow new players to join the game as well. We’re using the assortment of Javelin destroyers to subsidize discount packages for new players: 200 Javelins means we can make 5,000 $20 Aurora game packages available for sale at the same time!

The rabbit hole is DEEP.

[jakonovski]

Going back on topic, it's the Star Citizen Anniversary Sale! Buy now to commemorate the game not being out yet! New ship that doesn't exist for only $345!

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14314-Star-Citizen-Anniversary-Sale

Your buried the lead.  You didn't mention the new Capital Ship that is going to be on sale for a mere $2,500 in limited quantity.  What a deal!

I totally missed that!  

[lamaros]

"We're exploiting the insane so we can pretend we're not actually exploiting everyone!"

[Kail]

But that’s not all! We’re making the Javelin available for hardcore players who are dedicated to supporting Star Citizen… and we’re using the opportunity to allow new players to join the game as well. We’re using the assortment of Javelin destroyers to subsidize discount packages for new players: 200 Javelins means we can make 5,000 $20 Aurora game packages available for sale at the same time!

Are you fucking serious?  They're using sales of their twenty-five hundred dollar supership to "subsidize" their other packages?  Do these guys think they're making real space ships or something?  Did I miss something where we need to mine bitcoins to forge into vehicle armor e-ingots or something, or why the hell are we pretending that there are material costs on virtual goods?

[schild]

Chris Roberts fancies himself a digital Elon Musk. He's literally hitler at this point.

[Pennilenko]

Literally...

[Malakili]

why the hell are we pretending that there are material costs on virtual goods?

We aren't.  They are just just trying to 1) sweeten the pot for people who want to buy the 2,500 virtual spaceship so they can rationalize it as having helped someone and 2) come up with a way to justify selling some cheaper 20 dollar packages so they can make even MORE money, this time from the people who haven't wanted to pony up at the current prices.

And you know what, I bet all of those packages at both levels are going to sell.