For all the wooters out there...

[Slayerik]

Speaking of C64, anyone remember the game Beachhead 2? It was sooooo money.

[stray]

Geez, I have a good memory. I remember it being an artillery game or something.... But me and my friend could get it to load right. So I never got around to playing it.

[Azazel]

I have those covered too. Defender of the Crown is another one of my favorites from that time (i.e. not a console game).

Wings!

And Cinemaware in general...

[HaemishM]

I think if I were to make a Top 5 list, it would have to be a series of lists, separated by era. The CGA era, the VGA Era, the Cartridge Era, the Console Era, and the MMOG Era.

Where the hell does Colecovision's TANK! fit in your list? Goddamned infants. Bitching about bump-mapping and anti-aliasing and crap. WE HAD BLOBS THAT WENT PING! AND WE WERE HAPPY!

DOH. I forgot the PONG Era.

EDIT: And forget Combat, all games of the Pong Era paled in comparison to the joy that was Star Raiders.

[Bunk]

My grandparents had the actual Pong console... Two controllers with just a dial on them, no buttons.

Oh, and that biplane game on Intellevision was awesome. That console got shit on for having weird controlers, but it had outstanding games for the time. Utopia, for example.

[Abagadro]

I learned addition by playing blackjack on my 2600 as 6 year old, which explains a lot about me today I think.

[Lantyssa]

I really loved those biplanes. Combat was an Atari favorite. I think I liked Defender and Centipede more though. Centipede is still great.

Defender was one of my favorites until the morning I had to get a penicillian shot and couldn't walk so I played it for four hours straight.  I flipped the score then let just let the game kill me.  I had so many extra lives it must have taken ten minutes to end.

For some reason I couldn't bring myself to play it again after that day...

[Falconeer]

Oh, and that biplane game on Intellevision was awesome. That console got shit on for having weird controlers, but it had outstanding games for the time. Utopia, for example.

Utopia is one of my favourite game ever. Probably a prototype of the first multiplayer RTS ever. And Intellivision, for all I know, the only gaming system ever to sport a 16 directions pad. Which I loved. Those were the years...
But I could go on with tons of non-console games too. From Zork to M.U.L.E. through Ultima, Archon, Summer Games and Pit Stop well, it was tough to play without a Personal Computer back then. But the list could go on for ages and there would be no way to avoid forgetting stuff. Be it consoles or PCs, videogaming was so exciting.

[HaemishM]

My grandparents had the actual Pong console... Two controllers with just a dial on them, no buttons.

I had the deluxe Pong version, which had about 6 different Pong-like games including the original. The two controllers were built into this shitty white plastic case. My siblings and I played the fuck out of that thing for years.

Now, if a game lasts 6 months, it's a classic.

[Abagadro]

I still fire up Wizardry I and goof around with it every once in a while.

[Slayerik]

Oh, and that biplane game on Intellevision was awesome. That console got shit on for having weird controlers, but it had outstanding games for the time. Utopia, for example.

Utopia is one of my favourite game ever. Probably a prototype of the first multiplayer RTS ever. And Intellivision, for all I know, the only gaming system ever to sport a 16 directions pad. Which I loved. Those were the years...
But I could go on with tons of non-console games too. From Zork to M.U.L.E. through Ultima, Archon, Summer Games and Pit Stop well, it was tough to play without a Personal Computer back then. But the list could go on for ages and there would be no way to avoid forgetting stuff. Be it consoles or PCs, videogaming was so exciting.

Ah yes, Intellivision and early PC days....

Programmers had to rely on gameplay instead of crutches like lifelike graphics.

I miss all the great small software houses that have been ate up by the EAs over time.

Geez, I have a good memory. I remember it being an artillery game or something.... But me and my friend could get it to load right. So I never got around to playing it.

Yeah, one part of the game you had a 50 cal and you would mow down people coming at you. They would yell out shit like "I'm hit", "medic!!" ... there was also knife throwing I think, and some other stuff....

[Tebonas]

That Atari Pong console? Sadly my father gave it away and I got a Sinclair ZX Spectrum instead. At the time I loved that but now the console that made me a gamer would have a place of honor among all my things gaming.

My controllers were brown though, I'm sure about it.

Ah, here it was



Good times that!

[Sky]

My pong was brown, too. A six-game version.

But my first gaming platform was a mainframe :)

[Yegolev]

[EDIT] Oh wait, you're still talking about Air Sea. I'm talking about the biplanes in Combat (they had them too....except it was only biplane vs biplane fights. Funny stuff).

Combat had the one where three little planes in formation fought the one big plane.  I loved Combat and no one would play with me, either.  Having a pitiful, pitiful ripoff in Wii Play makes me a little happy and a lot sad.

If you ask me, and I know you didn't, I feel OoT outranks LttP by a small margin.  Twilight Princess did not try hard enough to be OoT, or maybe tried too hard to be Okami of Time and failed terribly.

I should try some Majora's Mask again.  I have not had a nightmare about that moon in a long time.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, Jade's list has to be fake.  It smells like an attempt to get some "gamer cred".

[schild]

If you ask me, and I know you didn't, I feel OoT outranks LttP by a small margin.

Go and try playing them again having played next gen stuff. See which one holds up and turned out to be the b etter game.

[Yegolev]

If you ask me, and I know you didn't, I feel OoT outranks LttP by a small margin.

Go and try playing them again having played next gen stuff. See which one holds up and turned out to be the b etter game.

Oh yeah, you are right about that.  I am considering it, actually, just need to get LttP loaded onto something.  Your notion of  re-examination of titles is spot-on since there's a lot of nostalgia and state-of-the-artness to worry about.  This is actually why I despise Tetris now, because I have played much better shit in the intervening years.

Zelda....  Which one is best-ever versus which one was the groundbreaker?  To me, OoT was a huge innovation while LttP was just SUPER in execution and polish and even atmosphere (love that intro with the rain), but determining a true winner will require a replay in this millenium.  Hell, I could be saying this same thing about Super Metroid and Metroid Prime, but I am not able to test my hypothesis that Super Metroid would win in 2007.

[Xanthippe]

The thread, how it evolved.  Truly geekworthy.

Welcome to F13, pinkhaired Simukaren.  Baptism by fire, indeed.

[Yegolev]

I can get woman-parts anytime.  Getting Link to the Past running on my TV is significantly more difficult.

[schild]

2D stuff just holds up better. There's nothing uglier than the PS1/Jaguar/N64 era. NOTHING.

The Atari era looked better.

[Yegolev]

Oh, looks, well I don't know about that.  I was talking more about other things since the graphical division is -- to me -- a given.  Ocarina is pretty homely any way you slice it.

[Daeven]

I still fire up Wizardry I and goof around with it every once in a while.

I'm replaying an Open Source port of the 3DO version of Star Control 2. Nirvana.

[Tebonas]

I must give that port a try. Thanks for the pointer in that direction Daeven!

[Signe]

I love the taste of port.  MMMM.  I don't drink much anymore but if I did the only stuff I would bother to drink would be ice cold martinis in the afternoon and port after supper.

[Surlyboi]

Martinis before dinner, sake with and after dinner.

[Abagadro]

I still fire up Wizardry I and goof around with it every once in a while.

I'm replaying an Open Source port of the 3DO version of Star Control 2. Nirvana.

Dude, I've been wanting to play that again for a long time. Thanks for letting me know it is out there.

[Azazel]

2D stuff just holds up better. There's nothing uglier than the PS1/Jaguar/N64 era. NOTHING.

The Atari era looked better.

Early Home Console 3-D is horrid, looking back at it now.

Compare Syndicate to Syndicate Wars
Desert/Jungle Strike to Soviet Strike

Or even look back at Twisted Metal 1, as awesome fun as it was at the time, looking at it kills me. Raiden from the same time-frame though, looks as fine as it ever did. Old, but fine.

[Falconeer]

Console 3D, sure. Computers on the other hand were on a different level. Try launching Driller, Total Eclipse or Castle Master. Or Mercenary, or Damocles. Goosebumps. They were scary even without enemies to fight.

[Slayerik]

I still fire up Wizardry I and goof around with it every once in a while.

I'm replaying an Open Source port of the 3DO version of Star Control 2. Nirvana.

We have been rocking "Ur-Quan Masters" , playing the melee like mad. I'm still yet to be defeated....my brother and a couple of my friends have been practicing their asses off too. *flexes belts*

[bhodi]

I love that game. It's one of my all-time favorites. I sort of wish that I didn't know all of it by heart, so I could enjoy it again.

[Furiously]

I'm man enough to admit that the bird guys always make me cry when they realize their honor is misplaced.