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Arthur_Parker
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Reply #1925 on: January 26, 2013, 01:46:33 AM

So if a mech jump jets upwards and a 2nd mech walks underneath him, the 1st mech is now standing on top of the 2nd.  If the 2nd mech moves the 1st mech moves with him (avoiding narrow openings and hills is a good idea though).

If the 2nd mech has jump jets, he can jump upwards and a third mech can walk underneath him. etc etc

SA post about it.

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Reply #1926 on: January 26, 2013, 04:28:52 AM

Lol that's brilliant. How funny would it be to turn up at the enemy base to find all 8 of them stacked up like some kind of surreal totem pole  awesome, for real

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Reply #1927 on: January 26, 2013, 06:51:20 AM

The Turret o' Doom!

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #1928 on: January 26, 2013, 08:39:34 AM

(avoiding narrow openings and hills is a good idea though).

This is incredibly key to remember. Basically, if it would hurt a light's legs it can potentially ruin the tower. I did use a different method of getting on top of others though. Basically, I'd walk on top of a box and have the bottom mech standing with its back against the back and walk on top of them. This resulted in the result of the faster you go the harder it is to hit and be hit. About every 2-4 seconds (while traveling 130kph and higher anyways) you teleport on top of the faster mech who is the base, so using non-locking missiles, lasers, or ballistics does not work well due to your shot going in random directions while you teleport to your base mech.

That said, streakcats can be viable in this world of ECM. I created a StreaCada or CiCat (Streak Catapult A1 on top of a Cicada 3m with ECM), which is devastating to anyone. Basically it is a streakcat with that moves at 140kph while teleporting on top of the cicada every couple of seconds making it invulnerable, with a couple of lasers coming out of its legs Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
Many tears and cries were consumed by my Catapult with it's Cicada module

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Reply #1929 on: January 26, 2013, 03:22:02 PM

Mecha shiva! Mecha shiva! Mecha shiva!
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Reply #1930 on: January 26, 2013, 03:55:40 PM

Voltron online!

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Reply #1931 on: January 26, 2013, 08:33:05 PM

I love it when people run commandos now, without lag shield all it takes is one shot with 4 racks of srm6's and its bye bye. 

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Reply #1932 on: January 26, 2013, 09:20:40 PM

Ouch. Sold my XL 385, and spent another 3 million and got a....XL 380.

Having fun with a 123 kph centurion and my 9M awesome is pretty damn strong.

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Reply #1933 on: January 26, 2013, 11:57:56 PM

Anyone got a good Cataphract build they'd care to share? I'm enjoying the Muromets quite a lot and want to skill up past the basics.

Lack of time is making grouping difficult - I only seem to have 30 mins free at a time, so I often just go solo rather than be all in-out etc. ECM Circada is great for pugging, at least that way I'm never in a group with no ECM  awesome, for real

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Reply #1934 on: January 27, 2013, 04:56:51 AM

Having fun with a 123 kph centurion and my 9M awesome is pretty damn strong.
"Everyone stay together!"  <Watches Slayerik take off at 80 kmph and laughs>

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #1935 on: January 27, 2013, 01:21:01 PM

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Reply #1936 on: January 27, 2013, 04:57:43 PM

If one was to purchase a Dragon, anyone have any recommendations on which one and a decent build? 

I'm stupidly new to this.

And thanks for the Stalker build a few pages back. That one is a blast!

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Reply #1937 on: January 27, 2013, 11:07:54 PM

Quick tip for any Nvidia graphics card users - don't upgrade to the latest drivers.

I was getting 50-30 fps most of the time and I installed the 310.x drivers and dropped to a maximum of 25, and dipping under 10 as soon as I saw another mech. Became completely unplayable. Reverted to 306.x and it's back to where it was.

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Reply #1938 on: January 28, 2013, 12:18:26 AM

I'm beginning to think Assault class may be the best way to break 1400-1500 damage and 2k xp Ohhhhh, I see. I keep getting upper 1300s, 6-7 kills (one round the 8th kill was literally at my feet as someone stole it), and 1,500-1,800 xp (without tag and low spotting assists).

Quick tip for any Nvidia graphics card users - don't upgrade to the latest drivers.

I was getting 50-30 fps most of the time and I installed the 310.x drivers and dropped to a maximum of 25, and dipping under 10 as soon as I saw another mech. Became completely unplayable. Reverted to 306.x and it's back to where it was.

Thanks, ignoring this one then

If one was to purchase a Dragon, anyone have any recommendations on which one and a decent build? 

Since you said you're new, I'll say this - don't use MC to buy mechs which can be purchased with cbills, if buying anything with MC then get an Ilya Muromets (unless you have tons of cash to blow, if you do then send me some hookers and blow)

That said, if I was stuck on a Dragon - my theory would be using the 1c - 2x srm4 and 2t ammo or 2x ssrm2 or 1x srm6, 1x ac5 (will be a U/ac5 if you don't get 2x srm4 as that weighs one more ton) and 2ton ammo, 2x med pulse laser with an xl350, endo, 14x dhs. Basically, dropping to the xl350 from the top end xl360 saves 1.5 tons but keeps the same number of heatsinks while also only dropping <3kph (pre-speed tweek). just dropping legs to something like 31-33 armor

Bit slower 1c version would be XL300, Gauss and 3-4tons of ammo, 1srm6 or 2x srm4 1-2x ammo, 12-14 dhs, endo, dropping some leg armor



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Reply #1939 on: January 28, 2013, 05:54:47 AM

Pugs.  Ohhhhh, I see.


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Reply #1940 on: January 28, 2013, 06:50:32 AM

Anyone got a good Cataphract build they'd care to share? I'm enjoying the Muromets quite a lot and want to skill up past the basics.

Lack of time is making grouping difficult - I only seem to have 30 mins free at a time, so I often just go solo rather than be all in-out etc. ECM Circada is great for pugging, at least that way I'm never in a group with no ECM  awesome, for real

On my 4x, I run two AC-5  and two ultra AC5. I run endosteel and a 210 engine I think. It's an asskicker.

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Reply #1941 on: January 28, 2013, 06:52:17 AM

Having fun with a 123 kph centurion and my 9M awesome is pretty damn strong.
"Everyone stay together!"  <Watches Slayerik take off at 80 kmph and laughs>

Hey, I usually circle back to everyone once I've shown them just how cool I am ;)

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Reply #1942 on: January 28, 2013, 06:56:52 AM

Stalkers are just stupid with firepower and armor. I'd like to know, from all you giant penis pilots, if you were to call out a weakness to this mech...what would it be? I sure can't go toe to toe with them, ever. They seem to be able to turn fast enough to deal with my quick mechs. Should I just bugger off and hide? :)

Edit: Flamers maybe?? lol
« Last Edit: January 28, 2013, 06:59:31 AM by Slayerik »

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Reply #1943 on: January 28, 2013, 07:11:13 AM

Light mechs are a bit of a pain, plus I find being outnumbered 4-1 sucks hard in my Stalker....  why so serious?

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Reply #1944 on: January 28, 2013, 07:15:30 AM

What he said.

If I get my ass handed to me in the stalker it's usually because I had 2 or 3 guys focusing me with ballistics.  The thing is a monster.

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Reply #1945 on: January 28, 2013, 07:56:54 AM

Over and over again I am watching teams go up to the ridge line in Frozen City and go over one at a time. And die. And then the next one does it. And the next. Same in Caustic Valley. One at a fucking time. The enemy team doesn't even need to be premade to be able to focus fire these chucklefucks down.

I say at the start "Don't go over one at a time!" and "Stay together!" but no, those concepts are too advanced for these mouth breathers.

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Reply #1946 on: January 28, 2013, 09:12:15 AM

You'd think there was a 50-50 chance of being on the bad or less-bad team.  No way.  I seem to be on the shitty team at least 80% of the time.  How is this statistically possible?

I'm not awesome, but there's no way I'm SO terrible I make us lose that much.  I'd have to be shooting teammates to see that much of a difference.  And how in the Clans' names can a Commando be the top damage dealer in a round when I'm not playing well.  Did I somehow get flagged to be part of a team in an experiment to let coma patients drive 'mechs with inactive brainwaves?

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Reply #1947 on: January 28, 2013, 09:27:34 AM

Over and over again I am watching teams go up to the ridge line in Frozen City and go over one at a time. And die. And then the next one does it. And the next. Same in Caustic Valley. One at a fucking time. The enemy team doesn't even need to be premade to be able to focus fire these chucklefucks down.

I say at the start "Don't go over one at a time!" and "Stay together!" but no, those concepts are too advanced for these mouth breathers.

You see the same thing in World of Tanks and in any MMO-PVP scenario ever.   Hell, it's worse in WOW because the dipshit can actually see the group of 4-5 people his stupid ass just ran in to like he's John Motherfucking Rambo.

People are dumb motherfuckers convinced they are either invulnerable or their skills are greater than any situation they're up against.  I wonder if that's the reason you have to beat obedience and esprit de corps in to soldiers so damn hard during training.

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Reply #1948 on: January 28, 2013, 09:29:40 AM

They have no fucks to give is all.

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #1949 on: January 28, 2013, 09:50:11 AM

You'd think there was a 50-50 chance of being on the bad or less-bad team.  No way.  I seem to be on the shitty team at least 80% of the time.  How is this statistically possible?

I'm not awesome, but there's no way I'm SO terrible I make us lose that much.  I'd have to be shooting teammates to see that much of a difference.  And how in the Clans' names can a Commando be the top damage dealer in a round when I'm not playing well.  Did I somehow get flagged to be part of a team in an experiment to let coma patients drive 'mechs with inactive brainwaves?

I'm so with you on this. Maybe we're just in denial that we suck. I always think to myself 'man, that was a bad round for me...and somehow my 300 damage is twice as much as anyone on the team.The Atlas guy that got 50 damage and the usual light mech that is scouting right that inevitably never returns sure helps the other team win. Again and again and again.

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Reply #1950 on: January 28, 2013, 09:52:08 AM

They have no fucks to give is all.

You are correct I think.

We all just take this shit too seriously.  why so serious?

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Reply #1951 on: January 28, 2013, 09:55:59 AM

Possibly, but why play a MP game if not for the competition.   If I want to derp shit up and be a moron I have SP games.

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Reply #1952 on: January 28, 2013, 10:02:56 AM

Alright, odd question for you. Slight history since i'm not sure if it matters.
I bought the founders pack long time ago. Last time I played prior to this weekend was October.

Friday, the first time I've logged in, I was using only the founders mechs (just the stock builds) so I wasn't horribly successful. But I was earning 500k-650k cp every match. I rode that gravy train for a sizable bank roll. This was also with premium turned off. The next day I log in, I'm barely earning 200k on my best matches even with premium turned on  

Was there some bonus CP going on last week or what am I missing?

Up front, it did seem a bit odd to be earning so much.
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Reply #1953 on: January 28, 2013, 10:10:33 AM

No bonus CP last weekend, just XP.  Maybe you got flagged as a noob under the new system so you were getting the credit bonus.

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Reply #1954 on: January 28, 2013, 11:09:24 AM

Possibly, but why play a MP game if not for the competition.   If I want to derp shit up and be a moron I have SP games.

I know, I was being facetious. I do think Fordel's right though, most of the herpderps simply don't care, either because they're kids or they're stoned or they just play games differently to us.

Anyway, I just bought an STK-5M, stripped it down and the discovered I hadn't left myself enough CBills to buy the engine I wanted. Herpderp indeed!

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Reply #1955 on: January 28, 2013, 12:09:47 PM

You can also play MP for the variety and unpredictability.

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #1956 on: January 28, 2013, 12:32:18 PM

every match. I rode that gravy train for a sizable bank roll. This was also with premium turned off. The next day I log in, I'm barely earning 200k on my best matches even with premium turned on  
Your first 25 matches, since Open Beta started, now get a credit bonus.  It's highest for your first few matches.  It's to help people buy their first 'mech.

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Reply #1957 on: January 28, 2013, 01:12:53 PM

Stalkers are just stupid with firepower and armor. I'd like to know, from all you giant penis pilots, if you were to call out a weakness to this mech...what would it be? I sure can't go toe to toe with them, ever. They seem to be able to turn fast enough to deal with my quick mechs. Should I just bugger off and hide? :)

Edit: Flamers maybe?? lol

Loadouts with multiple Gauss or AC/20 aiming for the same area, srm6  boats who are good with positioning, light/medium pilots who are good with positioning, other stalker/atlas pilots who do better than them, LRMS if they are too far out in the open, them being dumb and using an XL engine, legging them as some will drop their leg armor by a good amount to put on more weapons (though for some reason no one aims for the legs on these things when they're gigantic).


Over and over again I am watching teams go up to the ridge line in Frozen City
As a tunnel whore, I love when everyone goes mid. Them dying is of no concern as long as they can distract people long enough for me to come up from behind Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

You'd think there was a 50-50 chance of being on the bad or less-bad team.  No way.  I seem to be on the shitty team at least 80% of the time.  How is this statistically possible?

I'm not awesome, but there's no way I'm SO terrible I make us lose that much.  I'd have to be shooting teammates to see that much of a difference.  And how in the Clans' names can a Commando be the top damage dealer in a round when I'm not playing well.  Did I somehow get flagged to be part of a team in an experiment to let coma patients drive 'mechs with inactive brainwaves?
It makes more sense when you do not think of them as teammates, but start to think of this game as a single player game with cannon fodder who may or may not disconnect upon mission launch.

Was there some bonus CP going on last week or what am I missing?

I'm with Merusk and Lant on this one. If you played less than 25 matches when you first joined you will have a large bonus each round until you hit 25 matches, then you come back to reality of shitty cbills per match

Possibly, but why play a MP game if not for the competition.   If I want to derp shit up and be a moron I have SP games.
I know, I was being facetious. I do think Fordel's right though, most of the herpderps simply don't care, either because they're kids or they're stoned or they just play games differently to us.

Or you can play to herpderp along in an effort to get people to wonder and discuss on forums why you are even playing multiplayer if your plan is to run in and die first while handicapping your team why so serious?
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Reply #1958 on: January 29, 2013, 12:36:46 AM

Or you can play to herpderp along in an effort to get people to wonder and discuss on forums why you are even playing multiplayer if your plan is to run in and die first while handicapping your team why so serious?

That's far too meta for me to cope with.  awesome, for real

Gathered up enough cash to put the engine in my Stalker 5M with 4xMLas, 5xSSRM. What a marvelous melter of mechs! Not much use without ECM support though, might have to learn to use SRMs.

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Reply #1959 on: January 29, 2013, 06:13:44 AM

This game needs another two to four maps, and a few more game variants, like yesterday.

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