Mechwarrior Online

[Ironwood]

Because he was a loser.  Donuts are for closers.

[Falconeer]

Donuts are for closers.

Coffee is for closers! 

[Arthur_Parker]

Sometimes I feel the Xp handout is sort of fucked-up.   Sam's scorecard has a guy who did a total of 4 damage and got more XP than the loser with 4 assists and 310 damage.

His team won though.

[Slayerik]

Ok, so why not do some 8 man talk.... Who is in? 1 or 2 nights a week (list preferred times), lets get chewed up!  List your favorite mechs. I'm all about theorycrafting.

Slayerik
Weeknights or weekends - 7-8pm EST , 10:30pm - 1:00am  EST

1. ECM Cicada - XL 320, 4 pulse
2. Awesome 9M - XL 385, many builds
3. Cataphract 4 - Stand 210 - 2 x AC-5, 2 x Ultra AC-5
4. Gaussapult - Xl 225, 2 Gauss, 2 ML
5. Hunchy - Fast with lasers!

[Lantyssa]

Thinking about my 2nd mech, want to try a fast light. How's this look for a Commando build?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=5&l=250e850d90ff90caea9121915ef6fac0d677cb96 (using that one cos it does costs)

You're lacking a HS.

I prefer SRMs and MPL due to the speed I'm going and that I'm often fighting other ECM lights.  I'm not sure either is better, and a Commando versus a Raven will lose the SSRM battle once ECM counter happens.  Their armor is just too flimsy to survive guaranteed hits.

Doing strafing runs against larger targets though, an SRM-6 is easy enough to land.

Lan's COM-2D

[apocrypha]

I would most definitely be up for that, but my times won't overlap most of anyone else's at all. I'd be about 1-3am and 3-5pm EST. If I was online any time you were grouping I'd leap in happily though :)

[apocrypha]

You're lacking a HS.

I prefer SRMs and MPL due to the speed I'm going and that I'm often fighting other ECM lights.  I'm not sure either is better, and a Commando versus a Raven will lose the SSRM battle once ECM counter happens.  Their armor is just too flimsy to survive guaranteed hits.

Doing strafing runs against larger targets though, an SRM-6 is easy enough to land.

Lan's COM-2D

Cheers Lantyssa. Not sure where my heat sink went, I'm sure it was there to begin with 

On your build you've got loads of free slots, is it worth going Ferro Fibrous? What does that do exactly? More armour per ton?

[satael]

As a european my times also do not really overlap with that (3-5pm est on the other hand is more or less doable for me)

[Lantyssa]

On your build you've got loads of free slots, is it worth going Ferro Fibrous? What does that do exactly? More armour per ton?

More armor per ton, limited by the 'mech's maximum points.  On a Commando it saves you about 0.5 tons.

If you're willing to strip off armor then you can make it a full ton and do something with it, but I like max armor.  You could reduce the SRM-6 to a 4-rack and add AMS, but AMS+ECM is a waste on such a small 'mech.  Maybe strip armor and add Artemis.  It gives you some options, but nothing that's so overwhelmingly awesome that it's a must-do.

The engine is already maxed out, so only if you downgrade can you recover tonnage there.  If you downgrade much, then I highly recommend going with a standard engine.  The half a ton would be useful to off-set a little of that weight gain, but not much.

[Falconeer]

Today's patch notes.

Open Beta Update #9

Upcoming Patch - Wednesday Jan. 23rd @ 10AM – 1PM PDT

Patch Number:

Change Log

________________________________________

UPDATE

Greetings MechWarriors.


Death's Knell is here! With a 30% C-Bill boost that lets you make money while dancing around Atlai burning their armour off with four medium pulse lasers. You know you will look good because this BattleMech has possibly the coolest Hero skin yet!

All Systems are… Nominal? (we're getting there!) Finally! the Bitching Betty start up sequence is in game! If this doesn’t give you warm nostalgic feelings, then you my friend, are dead inside. There are also some additional animations and functionality for overheat and shutdown.

Some nice bug fixes round out the rest of this patch. Thanks for your help in tracking down and squashing them!

See you on the Battlefield,

Matt Newman


GENERAL

“The Death’s Knell” COM-TDK

- Base Mech: Commando
- Tonnage: 25
- Top Speed: 113.4 kph
- Armor: 176
- Weapons & Equipment:
- Left Arm: 2 Medium Lasers
- Right Arm: 2 Medium Lasers

- Hardpoints:
- Left Arm: 2 Energy
- Right Torso: 1 AMS
- Right Arm: 2 Energy

- Internal Structure: Standard
- Heat Sinks: 11 Double
- Jump Jets: n/a
- ECM Capable?: No
- Module Slots: 2
- 30% C-Bill Bonus

New Trial Mechs:

- Spider SDR-5V
- Hunchback HBK-4SP
- Cataphract CTF-3D
- Awesome AWS-8V

Gameplay:

- Start-up animation at the beginning of the match.
- Normal power on/offs during gameplay now have animations.
- Now able to manually shutdown during an override

Power System: (Powering on and off the Mech):

- There has been a significant change in how the power system works in regards to powering on and off your Mech and when overheating.

- Pressing the ‘P’ key will always turn on / off your Mech even if your Mech is shutdown from overheating.
- Pressing the ‘O’ key will temporarily prevent the shutdown of your Mech due to overheat.

What does this mean exactly?

Pressing the "O" key just prior to overheating will temporarily disable the overheat Mechanic for the next 5 seconds. If you do not overheat in those 5 seconds, the override is cancelled and will need to be toggled the next time you wish to engage it.

If your Mech DOES overheat within that 5 second buffer, your Mech will continue to operate but will cause you to start taking damage to your internals.

Pressing the "P" key now powers your Mech on/off no matter what state you are in. Hence, if you press the "P" key while you are overheated, your Mech will power up but you will start to take damage to your internals until you have cooled off sufficiently.

Performance:

- Anti Aliasing is Disabled by default for low specs.
- VSync off by default.
- Optimized visibility checks.

Bug Fixes:

- Fixed some issues with CryEngine.
- Fixed a few memory leaks.
- More fixes done to the FE.
- NARC/TAG reward now shows up in the EoR screen.
- Fixed texture LOD issue with the cockpit items.
- Additional movement code bug fixes and improvements

We thank you for your patience and we look forward to seeing you on the battlefield!

The MechWarrior® Online™ Team

[Zaljerem]

Today's patch notes.

- Additional movement code bug fixes and improvements

- Additional movement code bug fixes and improvements

- Additional movement code bug fixes and improvements

I really want to read this as "netcode is fixed!", but that's too optimistic, even for me ...

[Falconeer]

Startup sequence is 

[apocrypha]

More armor per ton, limited by the 'mech's maximum points.  On a Commando it saves you about 0.5 tons.

If you're willing to strip off armor then you can make it a full ton and do something with it, but I like max armor.  You could reduce the SRM-6 to a 4-rack and add AMS, but AMS+ECM is a waste on such a small 'mech.  Maybe strip armor and add Artemis.  It gives you some options, but nothing that's so overwhelmingly awesome that it's a must-do.

The engine is already maxed out, so only if you downgrade can you recover tonnage there.  If you downgrade much, then I highly recommend going with a standard engine.  The half a ton would be useful to off-set a little of that weight gain, but not much.

Gotcha. I spent half an hour browsing one of the wikis this afternoon to get a better feel for what some of these things mean. Having only ever played the TT once, and that 20 years ago (at a guess), my memory is somewhat hazy on many details.

Anyway, now I'm considering a Circada as my next mech. I'm like this in restaurants too, I don't decide what I'm going to have until the waiter/ress is looking at me expectantly, pen in hand.

[Falconeer]

Also, hero Commando 

[Merusk]

Sometimes I feel the Xp handout is sort of fucked-up.   Sam's scorecard has a guy who did a total of 4 damage and got more XP than the loser with 4 assists and 310 damage.

His team won though.

Through absolutely no contribution on his part.  Therefore, if I want to max XP per hour, I should run in, shoot something once, blow up, and drop to start another match ASAP.   I've got a 50/50 shot of a win/ loss on any given game so it doesn't benefit me to actually play.

If credits work the same way, it's an even bigger incentive to run max matches/ hour vs actually playing.

See the problem there?

[Ragnoros]

Looks like this is my new addiction. Me and Slay played last night. Bragging inc.

[Slayerik]

Hahaha, I knew that was coming :) Was fun rolling with ya. That stalker setup is nasty, my friend.

[Segoris]

Caring - you're doing it wrong

Thinking about my 2nd mech, want to try a fast light. How's this look for a Commando build?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=5&l=250e850d90ff90caea9121915ef6fac0d677cb96 (using that one cos it does costs)

You're lacking a HS.

I prefer SRMs and MPL due to the speed I'm going and that I'm often fighting other ECM lights.  I'm not sure either is better, and a Commando versus a Raven will lose the SSRM battle once ECM counter happens.  Their armor is just too flimsy to survive guaranteed hits.

Doing strafing runs against larger targets though, an SRM-6 is easy enough to land.

Lan's COM-2D

I'm an srm6 fanboy, so I'll give Lan's 2d a try. It does seem like a build I'll find lacking in ammo though, similar to how I am with 3x ssrm2 and 1 ton of ammo (same ammo used per shot, same max ammo).

For Apoc - Not because it's a better mech, but I'd suggest buying the Raven 3L before the Commando if you want an xl210 engine (the stock engine for the 3L). That way, you get both a new light mech and the top engine for a commando if you wanted. That basically makes it 7.6 million cbills for 2 mechs with an XL engine to share, opposed to buying the commando and XL for 5.3mil when eventually you'll want the 3L anyways (most likely).

Personally for 2D, I'm going to be switching down to an xl200 so I can grab an extra ton of ammo. I run with a [suicidal] 128 armor and still usually run out of ammo long before dying, which is capping how much damage I can do on a 2d. I will say - running out of ammo just makes me wonder why I bother with the 2d when there's a 3L in my mechbay, which is sad because I much prefer the commando style, or I would if I could see my mech!

[apocrypha]

For Apoc - Not because it's a better mech, but I'd suggest buying the Raven 3L before the Commando if you want an xl210 engine (the stock engine for the 3L). That way, you get both a new light mech and the top engine for a commando if you wanted. That basically makes it 7.6 million cbills for 2 mechs with an XL engine to share, opposed to buying the commando and XL for 5.3mil when eventually you'll want the 3L anyways (most likely).

Nice idea, I forget that the components are so expensive when I'm looking in the mech shop window.

I won a match last night: ended up me vs 3 enemies, final kill was a Death's Knell who was so sure I didn't have a chance that he was taunting me in chat...and then I legged him. Many lols were had. I didn't care.

[5150]

The downsides from the patch appear to be mechs skidding across terrain instead of moving.

I've also powered up after overheat without a HUD a few times (not sure I like how the override works now)

[Slayerik]

I do believe there were some decent lag shield/netcode fixes...I have been taking down lights like they should be going down.

[Ironwood]

Ain't that a kick in the ass.  You buy a nice new Death Knell Commando for the Lag Shield and they go and fix it.

 

[Lantyssa]

I'm an srm6 fanboy, so I'll give Lan's 2d a try. It does seem like a build I'll find lacking in ammo though, similar to how I am with 3x ssrm2 and 1 ton of ammo (same ammo used per shot, same max ammo).

I'm a laser jock.  The SRM is for some oomph.  You could knock the MPL down to a ML and gain a ton for ammo that way.

[apocrypha]

Watched someone in a 4-PPC Atlas blow people up with wanton abandon earlier. He shutdown every 2nd volley, but it looked like a lot of fun :)

[Merusk]

Any of these mechlab sites have head dissipation as a graph?  I went to Mechromancer and it only gives DPS, no "you gain this much heat per fire, and lose this much per weapon cycle" chart, which is one of the most useful ones to have.   I'd love to see how efficient that PPC-Atlas could be made.

[apocrypha]

This - AS7-RS - is the maximum heat efficiency I can work out with it. Going single heat sinks gives this - AS7-RS - but at the expense of nearly all the armour. 

Either way I think it's mostly gonna be a comedy value mech, which at 18m Cbills is expensive comedy.

[Segoris]

I'm an srm6 fanboy, so I'll give Lan's 2d a try. It does seem like a build I'll find lacking in ammo though, similar to how I am with 3x ssrm2 and 1 ton of ammo (same ammo used per shot, same max ammo).

I'm a laser jock.  The SRM is for some oomph.  You could knock the MPL down to a ML and gain a ton for ammo that way.

Yeah, that was the first thing I did. Both because I needed the weight and also because I tend to do just as well with pulse as I do with non-pulse, only I save on heat and weight. Still, 200ammo just isn't enough for me whether I'm using 1xSrm6 or 3xSSrm2 even with really low armor. Oh well 

[Chinchilla]

I've always been a huge Mechwarrior fan.  I have been debating trying this, but been so paranoid to try it because I could never get into the later versions of Mechwarrior like I could the older ones.

I am going to give this a shot because all of you guys yapping is making me curious!

[Zetleft]

Don't give up if you get killed alot at first.  Best idea is friend everyone on here and get on a teamspeak server or mumble.  Grouping and communication makes ALL the difference. 

When I'm lazy I just PUG.  Just had a banner bad one myself, I was the only one on my team with a kill... hell I was the only one on my team to have triple digits in damage done.  Group, communicate, and coordinate your fire when you can. 

[Ragnoros]

So I broke the game.

As a troll comp we ran in a four man drop of all Commando-2D's.

We won 19 out of 20 games.

[apocrypha]

Don't give up if you get killed alot at first.  Best idea is friend everyone on here and get on a teamspeak server or mumble.  Grouping and communication makes ALL the difference. 

This is very good advice :)

I'm hooked. Decided to give the devs some money and got a Marmoset. I'm trying the 3 UAC/5, 3 ML build. It's fun, but requires my skill level to improve drastically to get the most out of it I think. I also got a Cicada 3M and have fitted it with ECM and 4 MPL's. Again, we require more skillz! Also much fun although I might drop one of the pulses for now because of heat issues.

[Lantyssa]

As a troll comp we ran in a four man drop of all Commando-2D's.

We won 19 out of 20 games.

We ran into one of these a few days ago.  I was, sadly, in my Spider instead of my Commando, but I loved watching them go.  I felt like a proud mama.

[Segoris]

So I broke the game.

As a troll comp we ran in a four man drop of all Commando-2D's.

We won 19 out of 20 games.

Run 4ECM lights (not spiders), 4 splat-cats, or 4 DDCs and you'll likely roll over most other teams.

[Slayerik]

So far, my biggest MW regret is buying the XL 385, and not the XL 380. Kids, do your research before dropping 6+mil cbills on an engine. That ton and a half would make a world of a difference in the Centurion I'm theorycrafting....

[Chinchilla]

Downloading.  I'll post my name once I get in.