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Topic: Ashes of Creation (Read 16356 times)
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Falconeer
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a polyamorous pansexual genderqueer born and living in the wrong country
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schild
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no one should give money to mmogs on kickstarter
period
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Falconeer
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a polyamorous pansexual genderqueer born and living in the wrong country
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I agree 100%.
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HaemishM
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the Confederate flag underneath the stone in my class ring
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no one should give money to mmogs on kickstarter
period
This times infinity. The fuck do they think $2 million is going to do for an MMOG?
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Trippy
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no one should give money to mmogs on kickstarter
period
Especially one run by somebody whose background is MLMs and real estate. He's also the Creative Director, just because. Also the Lead Designer is a former EverQuest II QA person.
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Wershlak
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171 people have given $1000. Why do I bother to go to work when there are so many suckers out there.
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schild
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no one should give money to mmogs on kickstarter
period
Especially one run by somebody whose background is MLMs and real estate. He's also the Creative Director, just because. Also the Lead Designer is a former EverQuest II QA person. while funny research is unnecessary if mmog, don't give money for development it's that easy
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Gimfain
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Heard the same kind of promises from devs with far better funding.
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When you ask for a miracle, you have to be prepared to believe in it or you'll miss it when it comes
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Hawkbit
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Like a Klansman in the ghetto.
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Trebuchet, I'm in for 10k.
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Falconeer
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a polyamorous pansexual genderqueer born and living in the wrong country
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But hey, they have SEASONS. EDIT: Anyway, according to some article, the owner of the company Steven Sharif is indeed an ex-pyramid scheme practicioner who claims to have enough money to completely fund the project and so the Kickstarter is only to gather attention. But wait there's more, if the game doesn't launch he claims that he'll refund every kickstarter backer out of his own deep pockets. I mean, haha, wow, what?
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« Last Edit: May 27, 2017, 12:45:52 PM by Falconeer »
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HaemishM
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the Confederate flag underneath the stone in my class ring
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Seems legit. Look at those pixels. The alpha footage does look good, but yeah, I'm not giving this fucker my money. I don't care whose company is at steak.
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Gimfain
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Pcgamer wrote an article about it. Steven sharif's response was that the writer has an agenda against them and started calling it clickbait.
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When you ask for a miracle, you have to be prepared to believe in it or you'll miss it when it comes
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Ginaz
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Pcgamer wrote an article about it. Steven sharif's response was that the writer has an agenda against them and started calling it clickbait. Seems the author of the PC Gamer article (it was updated today) was entirely correct and Sharif did violate KS rules but KS is going to look the other way, probably because they get a cut of the $3+ million raised. Totally legit game. Nothing to worry about.
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Torinak
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The part about violating Kickstarter terms involves the project's multi-level marketing referral program where you get a cut of money spent by people who use your referral code.
The cut can be for game credits or for actual out-of-game cash. You don't even have to play the game, just get people to use your referral code.
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Riggswolfe
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The part about violating Kickstarter terms involves the project's multi-level marketing referral program where you get a cut of money spent by people who use your referral code.
The cut can be for game credits or for actual out-of-game cash. You don't even have to play the game, just get people to use your referral code.
What I read was described as a "reverse pyramid." Basically, you recruit 3 people. You get, say $3. They recruit 3 people. Now you only get $.50 because your money now goes to them or something. It's really bizarre. The company still gets all the cash though.
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"We live in a country, where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono was standing right next to him and not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me! Explain that to me, God! Explain it to me, God!" - Denis Leary summing up my feelings about the nature of the universe.
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Torinak
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Maybe the intent is to recruit people who can spear-fish whales for the game--those recruiters would do very very well. Or maybe to get celebrity endorsements who think their referrals won't bother referring anyone else.
I'll defer any discussion about the wisdom of such an approach to the guy who got rich selling miracle cancer-curing juice.
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Gimfain
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You won't get any money until the game is fully released so good luck on ever getting any money.
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When you ask for a miracle, you have to be prepared to believe in it or you'll miss it when it comes
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Der Helm
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A pyramid is a pyramid, regardless of it's orientation, right ?
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"I've been done enough around here..."- Signe
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Sir T
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Pretty much. "Reverse Pyramid" is just another set of jargon to avoid fraud claims. The only thing that matters however is that you get SOMETHING from the purchases of your downline. That makes it a multi-level marketing scheme.
Run from this kickstarter as fast as your digital legs can carry you.
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