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Reply #2415 on: September 15, 2011, 11:28:42 AM

It reminds that T2.5 was an abomination that should never have been unleashed on the playerbase.

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Reply #2416 on: September 15, 2011, 12:18:43 PM

MMO Champion are putting up previews of t13 sets along with retrospectives showing all the previous tiers (e.g. here's the warrior one) for transmogrification purposes... and I have to admit that browsing them is giving me a faint re-sub twinge.

Only faint though.

It is reminding me that the quality of Tier design mostly peaked around T4-5 and then went downhill sharply after T8.
It coincides with the removal of clownsuits. When they decided to make everything match, they also seem to have decided to make everything boring, including the tier sets.

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Reply #2417 on: September 15, 2011, 12:26:25 PM

It is reminding me that the quality of Tier design mostly peaked around T4-5 and then went downhill sharply after T8.

It reminds that T2.5 was an abomination that should never have been unleashed on the playerbase.

Totally agree with both of you there. Tier 5 good.

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Reply #2418 on: September 15, 2011, 12:56:41 PM

The new Mage T13 is freaking hysterical.

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Reply #2419 on: September 15, 2011, 01:31:29 PM

The new Mage T13 is freaking hysterical.

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I guess their are wearing them up like that since they cant fit them over the METAL HOOD.  why so serious?
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Reply #2420 on: September 15, 2011, 01:51:01 PM

It's actually Blizzard that seems to be doing the retrospectives:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3502705

It's hideous. All of it. Except the Shaman 13, which is prettty decent.
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Reply #2421 on: September 15, 2011, 02:02:27 PM

Shaman 2.5 gets my vote as the most awful thing ever.

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Reply #2422 on: September 15, 2011, 02:09:01 PM

Shaman 2.5 gets my vote as the most awful thing ever.

Other than Warrior 2.5 you mean.

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Reply #2423 on: September 15, 2011, 02:09:43 PM

They are tied.

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Reply #2424 on: September 15, 2011, 02:16:49 PM

They looked awful *and* they had really bizarre stats for most classes. Best sets in the game overall, obviously.
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Reply #2425 on: September 15, 2011, 02:26:06 PM

I wish I had tier 2.5 for my main.  Sad Panda

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Reply #2426 on: September 15, 2011, 03:49:22 PM

T8 for warriors is still one of my favorites. I should farm that up for my dwarf warrior I never play. awesome, for real I like the new mage set alright! I eagerly look forward to the paladin and hunter retrospectives so I can laugh and laugh and laugh. None of them match warrior 2.5 for sheer hideousness, but they had a lot of goofy on those two classes.

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Reply #2427 on: September 15, 2011, 08:02:28 PM

It's actually Blizzard that seems to be doing the retrospectives:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3502705

It's hideous. All of it. Except the Shaman 13, which is prettty decent.
It has a soup bone sticking out of the head...

I did literally let out a guffaw when I saw the mage tier set, damn that's funny.  All of tier 13 so far is either horrible or meh.
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Reply #2428 on: September 15, 2011, 08:29:34 PM

I did literally let out a guffaw when I saw the mage tier set, damn that's funny.  All of tier 13 so far is either horrible or meh.

I like them all so far. Mage is awesome, Shaman is probably my least-favorite.

Edit: I lied, I forgot about Druid T13 which is probably one of my least favorite druid sets they've done.
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Reply #2429 on: September 15, 2011, 10:18:38 PM

It's actually Blizzard that seems to be doing the retrospectives:

Ahh didn't realise that, cheers.

What I find annoying about WoW's armour design, which is brought home by these retrospectives, is that to a large extent they all really look the same. For most sets there is so little about any of them that makes you think "oh that's a mage" or whatever. You only think "aha, warrior T8" because you know what it looks like. If you weren't familiar with them then you'd have no idea at all what classes they were for.

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Reply #2430 on: September 16, 2011, 12:41:40 AM

Really varies from set to set. Like there are definitely warlock sets that are HELLO I MAKE PACTS WITH DEMONS! And almost all the hunter sets are them wearing some beast or another as a hat.

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Reply #2431 on: September 16, 2011, 02:32:17 AM

Shaman T13 blows syphilitic goats.

Every possible thing bad is in there:

Rehash of T10. Check.
Dumbass chainmail ballgown. Check.
Bilious color combination. Check.
Fucking stupid hat. Check.
It's on an orc. Check.

5 for 5 on the meter of sucktastic gear art. Good thing transmog is going live at the same time.
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Reply #2432 on: September 16, 2011, 03:39:49 AM

Really varies from set to set. Like there are definitely warlock sets that are HELLO I MAKE PACTS WITH DEMONS! And almost all the hunter sets are them wearing some beast or another as a hat.

Thematically and aesthetically I think priests, warlocks and warriors have generally had the best looking tier sets. Notably tiers 4, 5, 6 and 8.

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Reply #2433 on: September 16, 2011, 04:37:31 AM

I'd agree with that as an overall, though I've thought some of the Warlock sets sucked.  I was never a fan of the oversized head from T-6 and think that the wing-effect is what got the raves.  Looking at it as just armor it's as ridiculous to me as the hunter murloc set.

The DK sets have all been pretty good, too, but there's far fewer there so they're due for a stinker.

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Reply #2434 on: September 16, 2011, 06:23:05 AM

Is it just me, or do you hate it when they show sets on undead? Nothing looks normal on undead. Stop it.

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Reply #2435 on: September 16, 2011, 06:33:29 AM

These T13 sets look better than the last three-four sets combined. Even if you don't think they look good, they are all still distinctive and less "arrrgh, throw more light effects!" and less single color armor. It may not be great but it's already a huge improvement.











































































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Reply #2436 on: September 16, 2011, 10:36:41 AM

The DK sets have all been pretty good, too, but there's far fewer there so they're due for a stinker.

T12's kind of dumb looking and I'm not a fan of their theme of "stick skulls/faces on it" in general.

I think Hunters, Warriors, and Shamans all have good motifs to work off of so their sets are usually pretty spiffy.  Warlocks also have a consistency to them, it's just that it leads to consistently stupid looking armor.

As for the new ones, the only one that really stands out in either direction is the Mage set.  The quilted look is just fantastic.  Druid wouldn't be too bad if I were Alliance, but those glowing bits are going to be massive on Taurens.

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Reply #2437 on: September 16, 2011, 11:13:21 AM

Blizzard artists totally suck, man, <class I play> always has terrible armor and the only ones who ever get something good are <class I don't play and hate because they kill me in PVP or stole my job in PVE or something>.

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Reply #2438 on: September 16, 2011, 11:14:59 AM

I don't think anyone disagrees that warlocks have consistently been in the better looking armor club.

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Reply #2439 on: September 16, 2011, 11:16:24 AM

I've talked to more than one warlock who thinks their armor 'always sucks'.

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Reply #2440 on: September 16, 2011, 11:17:28 AM

My point being that if you took a vote on which class got the best aesthetic across all tiers, but you can't pick your own, I think you would get warlock as the top choice.

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Reply #2441 on: September 16, 2011, 11:50:23 AM

The DK sets have all been pretty good, too, but there's far fewer there so they're due for a stinker.

T12's kind of dumb looking and I'm not a fan of their theme of "stick skulls/faces on it" in general.

Ah, but it's a theme and consistent.  If you like that stuff or think it fits the class (which I do) it works.  T12 is the weakest though, I agree.

In fact I think the helms of this last cycle are weak in general, both T12 and all the PvP armors.

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Reply #2442 on: September 16, 2011, 01:36:57 PM

The DK sets have all been pretty good, too, but there's far fewer there so they're due for a stinker.

T12's kind of dumb looking and I'm not a fan of their theme of "stick skulls/faces on it" in general.

I think Hunters, Warriors, and Shamans all have good motifs to work off of so their sets are usually pretty spiffy.  Warlocks also have a consistency to them, it's just that it leads to consistently stupid looking armor.

As for the new ones, the only one that really stands out in either direction is the Mage set.  The quilted look is just fantastic.  Druid wouldn't be too bad if I were Alliance, but those glowing bits are going to be massive on Taurens.

I agree with this, it is more akin to T5, which was probably the most 'magey' tier set there was.

As a former priest, I was generally very happy with my tier gear.

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Reply #2443 on: September 16, 2011, 01:39:55 PM

I think most people were happy with T5.


Except purple power paladins.

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Reply #2444 on: September 16, 2011, 01:49:19 PM

I think most people were happy with T5.


Except purple power paladins.

Should I ever return to wow, I will be transmogrifying all my gear to look like t5 priest with anathema

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Reply #2445 on: September 16, 2011, 02:20:06 PM

I think most people were happy with T5.


Except purple power paladins.

I didn't miiiind the purple, exactly. I would've worn the fuck out of it as a dude blood elf, too, just to make the irrational Horde hate of one of their own races burn all the brighter.  Heart

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Reply #2446 on: September 16, 2011, 02:31:59 PM

The Purple Crystal armor looked fine if you were a Draenei and using the matching weapons and tabbard.



Druid armor is just mostly samey. Like 90% of it is generic brown/green robe with bark/leaf/vine shoulders. Not bad, but it doesn't amaze either. I want to say the most common Transmorg druid set will be Nordrassil.

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Reply #2447 on: September 16, 2011, 04:17:00 PM

Stormrage or gtfo!  awesome, for real

I hadn't really seen druid t12, but  ACK!

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Reply #2448 on: September 16, 2011, 04:34:43 PM

I would probably wear T9 on my Alliance druid, I even like the hat for it. The shoulders are a little wtfenormous on a NE dude, though. But aren't they all?

My paladins, I am pretty sure their heal suit is simply going to be the current honor set. It's simple, shiny, and has the big fat boots I have come to love. Plus it takes absolutely no effort for me to aquire!

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Reply #2449 on: September 16, 2011, 05:50:27 PM

If my druid was a Tauren, I would rock Tier6 no doubt.

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